SJUSXM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10134 times:
That is ship 6310, the new ship with the Lie-Flat Seat mods. Our flight remarks show is is in BWI for the next few days finishing up MX and testing on those mods.
DL WIDGET HEAD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2041 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10070 times:
GentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2102 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9644 times:
Quoting CMK10 (Thread starter): there's a DL 747-400 at BWI today and I'm curious as to why
jetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1201 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9428 times:
I know the bird that came in on Thursday was 6309...not sure if this is the same one or a different one. Unless 6309 went out on Thursday evening I would assume it's the same one, although if it's 6310 I'm going to see if I can get some photos of the new seats!
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4740 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9412 times:
I see her almost everyday when I work our inbound international flights (FL) CUN-BWI and MBJ-BWI flights 4 and 1061.
She looks massive when up front and personal! I do wish DL had at lest their jumbos in the classic Widget theme. I wouldn't even have minded a combination of the classic widget livery on the fuselage and the "Wavy Gravy" tail treatment.
The current mostly white body especially on a bird such as the 747-400 looks too generic like it's an afterthought.
BTW a couple weeks ago I got to tour her and see those cool seats. Even the main economy cabin looked inviting!
The one I toured looked like it had some years on her.
flylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 726 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8843 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 6): The current mostly white body especially on a bird such as the 747-400 looks too generic like it's an afterthought.
They're not the only carrier doing this and I sometimes wonder if that is intentional so that should the aircraft go to another carrier or the carrier merge, it is cheaper to paint; you replace the name and do the tail. Or, maybe it is just cheaper to paint? Or maybe the airlines have lost their imagination?
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8563 times:
Quoting flylku (Reply 7): They're not the only carrier doing this and I sometimes wonder if that is intentional so that should the aircraft go to another carrier or the carrier merge, it is cheaper to paint; you replace the name and do the tail. Or, maybe it is just cheaper to paint? Or maybe the airlines have lost their imagination?
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9272 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7653 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 6): She looks massive when up front and personal! I do wish DL had at lest their jumbos in the classic Widget theme. I wouldn't even have minded a combination of the classic widget livery on the fuselage and the "Wavy Gravy" tail treatment.
When DL first came up with this scheme, I didn't like it at all......being an old, DL veteran, I wished to see something closer to the old Widget scheme. However, I have grown to like it......I don't LOVE it, but it's ok. On a plane the size of the 744, I think the Widget and the font should be larger, though.
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mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9272 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 6897 times:
I find it odd that DL would use the first 744 converted to the lie flats to do military charter work. You'd think they'd stick it on the TLV run, or something like that.
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
audidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 272 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6319 times:
Well I'm even more confused as according to flightaware N669US (ship 6309) hasn't flown since it arrived in DTW on 01/24, and N670US (ship 6310) hasn't flown since it arrived in DTW on 02/05, having flown DTW-NRT-MNL-NRT-DTW as it's inaugural flight with the new flat-bed seat mods done. So if it is ship 6310, then flightaware needs to update it's flights!
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6141 times:
FA is a little behind. Acars shows 6309 flying out of BWI for the last few weeks. 6310 shows flying DTW - NRT but nothing since landing in DTW on Feb 5. If it's there, it could have ferried to BWI and just didn't show up on tracker.
jetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1201 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5997 times:
There is only one 747 here, so I am willing to bet it is still 6309. I have been here every day since it landed and it has been sitting in its usual spot.
Quoting flylku (Reply 16): Yes, and I would like to know more about that aircraft and UA's charter operation but we'll get yelled at if we hijack this thread.
this plane looks like it was an 5Y plane with their logo painted over, you can tell because the tail paint line slopes forward.
not to hijack the thread but i also would like to know more about this plane/ opperation
Rising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 240 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4991 times:
Just drove by and it's still there, parked on the ramp off the WDS International Terminal. Oh how I wish regular customers could ride that beauty over the Atlantic from BWI!
If it doesn't make sense, it's because it's not true.
alphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 533 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4929 times:
Quoting khpn (Reply 17):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):
Like the new UA charter 744 ...
http://youtu.be/4AAhfbmm5eY
Quoting flylku (Reply 16):
Yes, and I would like to know more about that aircraft and UA's charter operation but we'll get yelled at if we hijack this thread.
this plane looks like it was an 5Y plane with their logo painted over, you can tell because the tail paint line slopes forward.
not to hijack the thread but i also would like to know more about this plane/ opperation
It was actually always a UA a/c, but Atlas leased it from UA and just returned it a few months ago - I guess UA took the opportunity to do a quick repaint instead of the PMUA colors. I thought this a/c had the UA interior and Atlas left it that way. DL and UA will take a lot of the remaining charter business from the all-charter airlines - part of what is putting WO and NA under. The military (and anyone else out there) likes the forward cabin and is a nice change from the cattle cars especially when you have a DV onboard.
syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4303 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 11):
I find it odd that DL would use the first 744 converted to the lie flats to do military charter work. You'd think they'd stick it on the TLV run, or something like that.
I can't back this up, but I'm willing to bet this is the case because it is the only bird with the new seats and they may be looking to do something like they did with LHR and being able to say all aircraft flying there have these new seats. Until they have more, this could obviously be difficult. But also like I said, I have nothing to back that up with.
audidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 272 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4126 times:
According to flightaware, N669US (ship 6309) is flying DL 268 from JFK-TLV this evening. So surely someone can find out which aircraft is at BWI and whether it's still there.
FI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1059 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3948 times:
The boys at the MAA always assign F-17 for DL when a bird is resting between AMC trips.
All one need do is drive across Aviation Blvd to see the bird having a nap on the ramp.
An interesting side note: DL has ASIG doing the ramp work (including cleans) not their own
staff.
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71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3895 times:
Quoting audidudi (Reply 21): According to flightaware, N669US (ship 6309) is flying DL 268 from JFK-TLV this evening. So surely someone can find out which aircraft is at BWI and whether it's still there.
Probably just ferried it to JFK and no 747 is there now.
DLATLOpsSup From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 78 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3816 times:
Quoting FI642 (Reply 22): An interesting side note: DL has ASIG doing the ramp work (including cleans) not their own
staff.
ASIG is acutally the contractor that has all the AMC military contracts, they sublet it to the commercial airlines.
Quoting FI642 (Reply 3): DL currently operates 2 Channel missions for AMC
Acutally, and I don't have the exact number, its much more than two. We have two that go through ATL, and ASIG took them both from Atlas. The line runs DFW-ATL-HHN-KWI (and about every other one goes on to KBL), and returns the same, KWI-HHN-ATL-DFW. They've been running every other day since the last week in January. We ferry an aircraft to any number of bases then through a port such as BWI about every 5 days, and in between the reg one in ATL, we ferry another to HHN that makes a separate leg to the middle east from there. The regular legs are 76Ds (767-400s), and the ferrys are usually 76Us (767-300ERs with winglets). We've sent two 747s from ATL since starting the runs.
In ATL, ASIG handles the check in process and accepts the psgrs bags, then passes them to us for loading. There agents actually come to the gate to handle the boarding process, ususally assisted by a DL Redcoat.
25 jetblast: I lost my own bet It's 6310, N670US. She's preparing for an 0030 departure.
26 Joshu: There's one in the air now due to land at BWI in about 45 minutes. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8963
27 71Zulu: You were right all along! Yeah I was wrong too. Acars says 6310 coming back in.
28 jetblast: 6310 was back today and will be flying back to DTW at some point on its next leg.
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