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What Happened To Delta's "Cozy Suites"?  
User currently offlineRising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 278 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11517 times:

Did Delta ever end up installing these? Didn't see anything on their website and didn't find anything new in a search.

Seems like an interesting concept.

http://www.esquire.com/features/looking-forward-0209-6


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User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7429 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11494 times:
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Nope. I fly for them, and have never seen these. An idea that never saw the light of day


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User currently offlineAirCanada787 From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11423 times:

There was a thread on this last year. No they never installed any. Where were questions about even being about to get them certified for use, its believe by many that for the fastest evacuation you need a straight path to exit as fast as possible. Either was Delta has installed new seating on aircraft such as the 777 and 767 for which these seats were originally planned.

It was an interesting concept for sure, hopefully seating companies will continue to try to be so innovative. Not all concepts will catch on or be practical but I guess we never know what future designs maybe dreamed up and put into planes.



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User currently offlineRising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 278 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10976 times:

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 1):

Thanks! Was it a cost issue, or did they find a better product- or just another canceled project?

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 1):
Quoting AirCanada787 (Reply 2):

Thanks for the info!



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User currently offlinedl747400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10592 times:

I heard the contract was allowed to expire and DL made the decision to not renew it due to the fact that the design was encountering what were then being described as 'significant certification issues.' Most folks concluded that this meant the FAA said they would not certify the design as presented. Makes sense if you stop to consider the fact that the company that launched the design is no longer actively promoting it.

[Edited 2012-02-11 08:54:44]

User currently offlineicaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10535 times:

and more, how would you set up the overhead panels? lights, air vents, masks.... You would need a complete new design. Doesn't seem very easy

User currently offlineAirCanada787 From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8556 times:

Quoting icaro (Reply 5):
how would you set up the overhead panels? lights, air vents, masks.... You would need a complete new design. Doesn't seem very easy

No I don't think it would have been easy but they were probably hoping that with such a different product from everyone else that people would love it and fly Delta because they loved the product. Therefore it would have been worth it to make all those changes.



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User currently offlinegaystudpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 457 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8268 times:

Quoting AirCanada787 (Reply 6):
such a different product from everyone else that people would love it and fly Delta because they loved the product. Therefore it would have been worth it to make all those changes.

Not the case. The Cozy Suites had nothing to do with providing additional passenger comfort as a means to increase revenue. The Cozy Suites config allowed for a higher density coach cabin (e.g., through an increase in the number of seats per row) and therefore would have increased revenue by putting more pax in the same cabin.

[Edited 2012-02-11 14:21:22]

User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7899 times:

Quoting gaystudpilot (Reply 7):
The Cozy Suites

I suppose the keyword would be "Cozy Suites." Cozy.. to me, that word has the same connotation as "cramped."

That being said, this product would make a nice Y+/C- product, when appending the "Cozy."

Quoting AirCanada787 (Reply 6):
with such a different product from everyone else that people would love it and fly Delta because they loved the product.

I don't think would fly it because it's different..



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17821 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4911 times:

I've heard that even in focus group testing the seats tested poorly; they were neither "cozy" nor "suites", and pretty much everyone hated them except understandably the finance group.


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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21854 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 9):
they were neither "cozy" nor "suites"

Did we really need focus group testing to determine that?   

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