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BUF Finalizing Expansion  
User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2413 times:

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You wouldn't think a shrinking population and a stagnant economy would make a case for major investments at Buffalo Niagara International Airport any time soon.

But the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority -- which runs the airport -- is nevertheless finalizing a 20-year master plan to spend $406 million on major upgrades for the terminal, parking and airfield.

That's because just across the Niagara River, the population, the economy and the demand for air travel continue to grow. And as Buffalo Niagara's convenience and lower costs attract more travelers from the Toronto megalopolis, airport planners predict steady growth at the Cheektowaga facility.

The NFTA and its consultants now envision about 8 million travelers per year by 2030 -- a major spurt from 5.4 million in 2011. An overflow of Ontario license plates in the airport parking lots ts the story -- 8 percent were Canadian in 1997, compared with 40 percent today.
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article729019.ece

The master plan (which can be found here: http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/...29.ece/BINARY/Airport+master+plan) includes an expansion to the baggage area (including new carousels), increased parking capacity, three more gates (with more if needed), and access to the 33 without having to stop at Genesee St.

This is all a result of the steady increase of Canadian traffic, thanks to BUF's lower fares compared to YYZ, YHM, YTZ, etc. The airport authority has also expressed a desire to get the airport on par with ROC, SYR, and ALB, which is the other reason for all of this.

I'm excited for the changes, though I am curious as to the reason for the additional gates. Are they planning on another airline starting service here? Or is the extra space a result of the UA/CO and/or WN/FL mergers? I guess only time will tell!


"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup."-Terry Pegula, February 22, 2011
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User currently offlinekhpn From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Great news!
maybe they can work in a nice spotting area for us too   


User currently offlineoswegobag From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

Awesome news for BUF! I am very excited! What type of additional service do you think BUF can expect if all plans go through? Any international service? Maybe we can become a major hub for the new US American Airways? haha   

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

Quoting KBUF (Thread starter):
Are they planning on another airline starting service here?
Quoting khpn (Reply 1):
What type of additional service do you think BUF can expect if all plans go through?

For a city the size of Buffalo, and with the regional catchment that it has currently, I'm quite surprised that there isn't nonstop service to at least DEN, DFW, IAH and even LAX. I'm sure these four could fill small mainline to BUF, each daily and throughout the year. Then with the connections from those four, should be a piece of cake.

I don't want to sound like a smart a** for asking this, but seriously, is there something that is discouraging developing commercial air service there at BUF?

[Edited 2012-02-12 20:46:06]

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6437 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 3):

Could have sworn AA had 1 daily to DFW a while back.



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User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 3):
For a city the size of Buffalo, and with the regional catchment that it has currently, I'm quite surprised that there isn't nonstop service to at least DEN, DFW, IAH and even LAX. I'm sure these four could fill small mainline to BUF, each daily and throughout the year. Then with the connections from those four, should be a piece of cake.

I don't want to sound like a smart a** for asking this, but seriously, is there something that is discouraging developing commercial air service there at BUF?

Nearly 40% of the passengers using BUF are canadian travelers. The ones coming across the border are typically leisure or price sensitive passengers. Thats how BUF maintains 2x LAS and 1x PHX when similar sized WN stations like BDL and MHT had neither this January. Also perhaps why the PHX has not been switched to DEN like PVD/MHT.

The low fare environment will help boost service to warm weather destinations while at the same time making it tougher for business markets like DFW IAH and RDU (remember how DL experimented with RDU-ALB last summer and not a larger airport like BUF).



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User currently offlinetsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Quoting KBUF (Thread starter):
This is all a result of the steady increase of Canadian traffic
Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 5):
Nearly 40% of the passengers using BUF are canadian travelers. The ones coming across the border are typically leisure or price sensitive passengers

Doesn't a lot of this traffic go to IAG,especially with Spirit and Allegiant operating from there? Seems like there is a lot of competition for the Canadian low cost customer in the Buffalo area... not sure if there is that much traffic to warrant this kind of expenditure.


User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Quoting tsnamm (Reply 6):
Doesn't a lot of this traffic go to IAG

This is new, so we'll have to see it how it goes after a few years.

Quoting tsnamm (Reply 6):
not sure if there is that much traffic to warrant this kind of expenditure.

There really is nothing earth shattering in the plan, no runway extensions and minal terminal enhancements. The airport has hardly any covered parking and surface parking is already constrained at peak times. Parking makes up about 20% of the improvements and that can pay for itself, meaning no $$ out of the airport's pocket. The overpass is a result of the main intersection being congested due to non-airport traffic.



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User currently offlinenorthstardc4m From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3024 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1619 times:
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Quoting tsnamm (Reply 6):
Doesn't a lot of this traffic go to IAG,especially with Spirit and Allegiant operating from there? Seems like there is a lot of competition for the Canadian low cost customer in the Buffalo area... not sure if there is that much traffic to warrant this kind of expenditure.

Oh yes there is that much traffic coming over from Ontario. On a recent trip on Delta BUF-ATL, fully 50% of the economy passengers seemed to be using Canadian passports. As to why IAG isn't used more, mostly due to the lack of frequencies vs flying on airlines from BUF, and lack of destination options for Allegiant at least... and complete and total lack of brand visibility for either of Allegiant or Spirit north of the border, especially since they don't show up on the major travel sites.



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User currently offlineoswegobag From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
Could have sworn AA had 1 daily to DFW a while back.

Yes, but that ended quite a few years ago (I think it was also seasonal at the time)


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