LimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 693 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 10332 times:
An undisclosed buyer has signed a firm purchase agreement for five Bombardier NextGen Q400 turboprops, the Canadian airframer announced today.
The transaction, which is valued at $160 million at list prices, comes only four days after Bombardier identified China Express as the undisclosed buyer of 11 CRJ900 regional jets in October.
Bombardier executives were in China last week as part of a Canadian trade delegation to Beijing led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
Also last week Bombardier announced an order by unidentified customer for six CRJ1000 regional jets and options to buy 18 more.
The Q400 is now in service or on order by about 40 operators, Bombardier said.
Sales of the Q400 plunged last year to only seven orders. The ATR 72 turboprop, however, amassed more than 150 orders in 2011.
But Bombardier has made strides in the first six weeks of 2011, already attracting 11 combined orders or purchase agreements for CRJ1000s and Q400s.
"The turboprop lives on," said Mike Arcamone, president of Bombardier Commercial Aircraft.
jamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 518 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10014 times:
I was thinking the same thing but they want 10 times that many planes and would probably get a better price if they ordered more at once and I don't think they have finished evaluating the ATR series of aircraft.
hoya From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9850 times:
bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9828 times:
I wonder if it's the mystery carrier being discussed in this thread:
LimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9095 times:
Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 8): SG (SpiceJet) is rumoured to be considering ordering more Q400...
if im not mistaken, spicejet ordered 15 with 15 options. id think they'd exercise those options first before ordering more. plus why would they want to be unnamed?
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817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1416 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9030 times:
Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 12): if im not mistaken, spicejet ordered 15 with 15 options. id think they'd exercise those options first before ordering more. plus why would they want to be unnamed?
But cant they exercise just some of the options or do they have to exercise all at once? and they can remain unidentified for PR reasons
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B6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 238 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8784 times:
Is there even a remote chance that QX/AS could be behind this?
gmcc From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8538 times:
Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 15): Is there even a remote chance that QX/AS could be behind this?
There is a remote change as the Air Group has 10 options for Q's and there was something about 2 options for the Q's this year mentioned on the fourth quarter earnings call. Combine that with the fact that QX is going to be doing a lot of new flying out of SAN might be stretching the fleet kind of thin even with the increased reliability.
krisyyz From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8501 times:
Quoting brilondon (Reply 4): Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 3):
Westjet, moving very very very quickly?
I was thinking the same thing but they want 10 times that many planes and would probably get a better price if they ordered more at once and I don't think they have finished evaluating the ATR series of aircraft.
I can't see them only ordering 5. I tweeted WS this weekend about the Q400 order and they replied saying "no decision has been made, it's too early"
I wonder if this order has anything to do with the grounding of MA since they had a LOI for 4 Q400s.
CRJ900X From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8465 times:
Quoting dkny (Reply 11): Top up order from ET maybee??
I would say from the article below, that this order is for Ethiopian Airlines. The article states that the airline is looking for an additional 5 Q400's (with one aircraft going to ASKY), and with this order this would fulfill Ethiopian's regional needs and that's another reason why no options were obtained in this transaction.
Dash8Driver16 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6386 times:
Everyone knows that these are going to PDT.
On a serious note how long will it take for these 5 to be delivered?
freeze3192 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5766 times:
planesntrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4543 posts, RR: 28 Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5678 times:
Quoting LimaFoxTango (Thread starter): Sales of the Q400 plunged last year to only seven orders. The ATR 72 turboprop, however, amassed more than 150 orders in 2011.
But Bombardier has made strides in the first six weeks of 2011, already attracting 11 combined orders or purchase agreements for CRJ1000s and Q400s.
150 ATR to 7 Q400 last year? Wow. But to call an order for 5 in mid February making "strides" seems slightly....reaching.
Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 15): Is there even a remote chance that QX/AS could be behind this?
Perhaps, but I can't see it at this time. I'd think that AS would simply want to max out the operational and profit-making options for the existing fleet while potentially putting future additional flying to a different outside carrier. Not sure how their contract reads in regards to this, but OO is on the job already with the CR7 and there's been talk here on A.net about their need for something in the 90-100 seat range.
Dash8Driver16 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5019 times:
C5? Bet there are 50 people who know what PDT is for every one who knows what C5 is!!! hahahahahaha..
I don't think these will be going to QX/AS I am not sure how maxed QX is on aircraft block hours per day. but they are adding flying so maybe this is preemptive.
dtwpilot225 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3551 times:
These are going to Pinnacle/Mesaba for united. watch for it soon.
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2080 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3387 times:
Perhaps this is Bombardier's year.
If they get WestJet's order for 40 turboprops, this one, top-up orders from Ethiopian, SpiceJet, Colgan, LH Group plus firm orders from options for the 18 CRJ1000 announced last week plus top-up of CRJ900s from a few airlines, and then some CSeries orders - could be a busy year for BBD
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25 scarebus03: It very well may be Bombardier's year as the ATR line is pretty full until 2014
26 dkny: I guessed right they are for ET "Bombardier Aerospace has confirmed Ethiopian Airlines to be the customer which placed a firm order for five Q400 Next
28 Viscount724: Horizon Air also ordered two more Q400s. http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...orizon-air-ethiopian-airlines-0216
29 baje427: While these orders are not impressive like the ATR if the can get the WS deal and a top up from PD QF, and Colgan the program would gain some momentum
30 LimaFoxTango: I will bet my next 6 salaries WS will not go with ATR.
31 RWA380: I see no reason to speculate further, these frames will be going to AS/QX to beef up this summers increased flying, from PDX, even though seasonal, t
32 planesntrains: How does it work for a Canadian airline to acquire a Canadian airliner? ExIm wouldn't be available I'd think, so there might be an incentive to shopp
33 JoeCanuck: I don't think BBD or Emb aircraft are covered by the home market rule.
34 yeelep: What that article fails to mention is the two Q400ng's for Horizon are going to be replacement frames for two earlier models. So no net increase.
35 737-990: The good news is that these new a/c will replace the 2 chinese planes that QX bought from Hainan Airlines. Those 2 are the worst planes in QX's fleet
36 planesntrains: Well, that makes more sense to me in regards to QX expansion, or lack thereof. -Dave
37 RWA380: Makes the extra seasonal stuff from PDX, BZN, BLI, for the two Q400's staying the summer, I'm thinking QX/AS will take down some frequencies in the N
38 817Dreamliiner: Ok im confused a bit here, what 2 aircraft are you talking about? As far as I know QX only operates Q400s and Hainan never had any of these if I reme
39 YYZAMS: I am thinking WestJet is already starting to get that RJ carrier going!
40 Polot: QX has two Q400s from Chang'an Airlines, which merged with a few other carriers to form Grand China Air, which is a subsidiary of the Hainan group. T
41 817Dreamliiner: Ok, didnt know Chang'an had Q400s at all, thanks
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