Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1411 times:
Hmmmm, I somehow remember reading somewhere that 10 people die onboard LH flights each year on average. That same article stated that births were about half of that, so LH has a negative result bottom line . No, I´m not sure about these numbers (but they aren´t pure speculation either).
As to what place of birth is put into your birth certificate/passport - no idea! All I know is that kids who were born on a plane or ship which is registered in a country whose legal system adheres to the ius soli principle automatically obtain the citizemship of that country. E.g. if you´re born onboard an N-registered plane on a domestic Mexican flight - bingo, you won the jackpot .
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1388 times:
I doubt the French part; reason: according to international public law you´re NOT in France at that moment, only in the country whose flag the aircraft is bearing. Regardless of whether the plane is flying or not.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1309 times:
You´re both right and wrong. It differs from airline to airline - some have strict deadlines, some don´t - they rely on certificates given by the woman´s doctor, for example. And then, imagine a woman pregnant 9 months shows up at the airport for boarding - do you think the check in staff will address her about that? My guess is they´ll close an eye or two, hope nothing happens and let her board instead of all the hassle and discussions. And in 99 out of 100 cases probably they´re right. Hey, they might even not notice (or chosse not to notice ).
And, last not least, perfectly healthy babies can be born after 7 months.
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 20 Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
Generally, a physician will not clear a woman to fly if she is in the final stages of pregnancy and could deliver at any time. However, if there is an event of fetal compromise while airborne, and the woman goes into labor, we try to land the aircraft as soon as is practical, so that the child can be delivered in formal medical facilities and, if a situation arises where the infant needs immediate medical attention, it can be received without delay and further damage.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
If you are onboard an airliner or ship, international law says you´re in the country whose flag the craft is entitled to fly.
So, in the case of N-registered aircraft, you are on American soil the moment you step aboard. Giving that you have the ius soli in the US, being born in a US plane (i.e. on US soil) makes you an American citizen.
The airspace (both above and below the aircraft) however belongs to the country you´re flying over. But since you´re born in that little pressurised "enclave", you´re born in the plane´s country.
So, unless you are in Antarctica or swim through international waters on your own, you are always in one country or the other.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
I clarified this situation with my dad who has had 4 inflight births in international airspace over the last 37 years (that he can remember, there might have been more).
The baby initially assumes the nationality of the MOTHER for immediate arrival formalities. Remember, the baby has to be classified as a national of some country to complete the paperwork when the plane lands! The nationality of the father is irrelevant until a birth certificate naming him as father is prepared, which cannot be done inflight. In the event of the mother becoming deceased at delivery, the child is treated as a ward of the state whose flag operation is being conducted, and NOT that of the state whose registration is carried on the aircraft (if it is different). If the mother carries dual nationality, then the nationality of the documentation used to make the current flight is considered to be the primary citizenship. The airspace being flown over at the time of delivery is totally irrelevant. The aircraft and all enclosed within it is considered to be the soil of the country whose flag it is flying and the child *may* be entitled to that nationality depending upon individual country laws on the issue.
Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1140 times:
According to what we were told in inflight training years ago, a woman on a Pan Am flight gave birth over international waters and the place of birth was given as the latitude and longitude at the time. Because the child was born on a U.S. flag carrier, it was given status as an American national.