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Singapore Air Show 2012  
User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7771 times:

It may not be on the scale of Le Bourget or Farnborough, but it's exciting nonetheless and worthy of its own thread.

As has been mentinoed, Lion Air has firmed their MAX order while ALAFCO has firmed their NEOs. BOC Avia signed for 20 C919s while Azul took their options to firm 10 E-190s.

Up next is a press conference with Enders:
http://t.co/Evia6F9I
Likely an update on the A380 situation... or something else, perhaps?

Garuda has invited the press to a press conference at 2pm. Apparently, Bombardier was also invited  

edit to fix link

[Edited 2012-02-14 17:29:31]

28 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Flightglobal on twitter:

- Market forecast first, order later.
- Airbus to make major new announcement with singapore's ST Aerospace later. New aircraft PTF conversion?
- looking at #A330 Rate 11 production increase from early 2014: Enders
- Final assembly of first flying #Airbus #A350 to start in TLS in "June or July": Enders
- Enders: singapore has requirement for tankers and it should be an interesting completion.
- (Asia-Pacific) airlines to take delivery of 9370 aircraft over next 20 years, 34% of all deliveries, overtaking N America and Europe.

EADS:
- We are heading for 30 #A380 deliveries for this year

update from Airbus' press conference:

Flightglobal tweeting:
- A little over 700 very large aircraft (7478/A380) deliveries to Asia-Pac over 20yrs: Leahy
- #787 is a nice airplane, it reminds me an awful lot of the #A330: Leahy
- An all-new single aisle is sometime after 2030. A320neo will be built for 30y: Leahy
- Quite a few 100 more #A320neo orders in 2012: Leahy

EADS:
- "Every 10minutes an #Airbus #380 lands or takes off" John Leahy
- "Every 2seconds, an #A320 lands or takes off" John Leahy

Flight:
- ST Aerospace launches #A330P2F with Airbus and EFW
- Demand for 900 #A330 convs 20yrs. EIS of -300P2F in 2016: Enders
- A330P2F won't have longer nose leg, instead a powered loading system

[Edited 2012-02-14 18:34:23]

User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

Flightglobal reports Transasia has selected P&W to power their NEOs.

Aviationweek aritcle on Airbus' announced A330P2F:
http://t.co/RNYZM53h


User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7422 times:

Intresting choice of partner. First RR sets up shop in Singapore, now Airbus.

I have heard we will see more Airbus partnerships.

Wonder what the order were?



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7347 times:

Aviationweek per twitter: GoAir has selected P&W to power their 72 NEOs.

The deal now gives Pratt a 51% marketshare on the NEO.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 3):
Wonder what the order were?

Haven't heard anything new, the reported order announcement may have been misunderstood or perhaps it's scheduled for a later time.

[Edited 2012-02-14 21:27:52]

User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7152 times:

Thanks Flood for keeping us updated about Singapore Air Show.

Quoting flood (Reply 1):
Final assembly of first flying #Airbus #A350 to start in TLS in "June or July": Enders


Is this in line with earlier predictions by Airbus, or an indication of further slippage?

It would be great if we could see some significant new plane orders before end of the week.



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

Garuda Indonesia Confirmed as Previously Unidentified Bombardier CRJ1000 NextGen Aircraft Buyer
http://www.bombardier.com/en/corpora...ses/details?docID=0901260d801e6e27

Bhutan's Drukair signs MoU for an Airbus A319 with Sharklets
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...ers-an-airbus-a319-with-sharklets/

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 5):
Thanks Flood for keeping us updated about Singapore Air Show.

Every air show deserves its own thread, especially Singapore - where I spent a wonderful 3 years going to high school  

With regards to the A350, I believe it's in line with their previous schedule.


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 1):
Flight:
- ST Aerospace launches #A330P2F with Airbus and EFW
- Demand for 900 #A330 convs 20yrs. EIS of -300P2F in 2016: Enders
- A330P2F won't have longer nose leg, instead a powered loading system

So does this mean that QR is going to order some new builds now that they can convert their current A330s into frieghters?


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6655 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 1):
- looking at #A330 Rate 11 production increase from early 2014: Enders

Just confirmed through Airbus's twitter page. Very good news to see this increase in A330 production.
     



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User currently offlinehuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1117 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

In case there are people still unaware, SQ is displaying one of its last three B744s at the airshow on public days this weekend.

Nice touch by the airline!



It's huaiwei...not huawei. I have nothing to do with the PRC! :)
User currently offlinemarktci From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

Viking Air announces sale of 15 Twin Otter Series 400s to various customers at the show.

http://www.timescolonist.com/busines...als+Twin+Otters/6155447/story.html


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

Flight / EADS via twitter report LionAir is continuing its shopping spree, having just signed up for 27 more ATR72-600s for subsidiary Wings Air. Wings Air to become largest ATR operator with 60 aircraft.

All that's missing now is their potential widebody order which they were expected to place this month   

Maybe we'll still see it in Singapore or perhaps on Obama's visit to Everett this Friday.


User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Bombardier just announced that Ethiopian ordered 5 Q400s and Horizon Air ordered 2 more as well

User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4691 times:

The 787 did a flyby of the Marina Bay Sands hotel during the airshow yesterday. Some good photo opportunities:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/boeing-...kypark-marina-photo-143456535.html
http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/120215_boeingmbs/

The latter link has some especially nice shots from onboard.

Tom.


User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 14):
The latter link has some especially nice shots from onboard.

Nice photo's thanks for the link, they only just miss out my old home on the East Coast!

I also like the shot of the window comparison to Airbus. The problem is that with Airbus you get to see outside from the air, with the 787 all you see is KPAE tarmac at present. 


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4559 times:

As initially discussed at the Lion / ATR press conference:

"Lion Air plans to commence widebody operations with either ten Boeing 787-8s or Airbus A330s in 2014 or 2015, says airline CEO Pak Rusdi."
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...0Widebody%20Ops%20Around%202014/15

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 14):
The latter link has some especially nice shots from onboard.

Nice, thanks.


User currently offlinetozbek From Turkey, joined Jul 2005, 124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4518 times:
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Japan Airlines has ordered 10 Boeing 787-9s and converted orders for 10 787-8s into the -9 model.

The airline also has options for 10 more 787-9s as part of the latest deal, it said in a statement. With this, JAL has 25 firm orders for the 787-8 and 20 for the 787-9, with 20 options for both types.

The airline plans to deploy the 787-9s on medium to long haul international routes after the 2015 fiscal year, which ends on 31 March 2016.

Here you are 787 in Singapore Airshow static display: http://youtu.be/ojlq8Mc9y58


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Pratt's press release on PurePower status:

"Gearing up for Certification: PurePower® Geared Turbofan™ Engine Test Program Progressing Rapidly"
http://www.purepowerengine.com/pdf/P...12-02-16_PUREPOWER_TEST_UPDATE.pdf

Quoting tozbek (Reply 17):
Japan Airlines has ordered 10 Boeing 787-9s and converted orders for 10 787-8s into the -9 model.

It came as a surprise yesterday as it wasn't announced at the show and I don't believe Boeing or JAL have issued a press release. Perhaps the media got hold of it and formal announcement is still in the works... could also be one for Obama to announce in Everett on Friday.
JAL Orders 10 789s, Converts 10 788s (by flood Feb 15 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinetozbek From Turkey, joined Jul 2005, 124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4384 times:
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It should be. The news published on Flight Global Pro. So I could not give the link.

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 16):
As initially discussed at the Lion / ATR press conference:

"Lion Air plans to commence widebody operations with either ten Boeing 787-8s or Airbus A330s in 2014 or 2015, says airline CEO Pak Rusdi."
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...14/15

If they're going to be using the 787 this will have to be with some leased birds as the line is backed up years past that. A330 deliveries are quite backed up but nowhere near as bad - and IT do currently have 15 on order what I can't see them taking.....


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6962 posts, RR: 63
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

RR have won the Cebu A330 order:

http://otp.investis.com/clients/uk/r...y-story.aspx?cid=171&newsid=237213

And, while I'm at it, they announced on the first day of the show a Trent 700 order from Air Pacific:

http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil/new.../2012/120214_air_pacific_order.jsp

Two more airlines join the L-O-N-G list of Trent 700 operators.   


User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 20):
If they're going to be using the 787 this will have to be with some leased birds as the line is backed up years past that. A330 deliveries are quite backed up but nowhere near as bad - and IT do currently have 15 on order what I can't see them taking.....

This is Lionair were talking about. I would watch the ex-im banks in Europe and the US if i were to guess what manufacturer they order from. More important to Lionair than deliverydates and Boeing vs Airbus.

We at A.net often forget that financing and state support for it often helps deals being swung in one or the other direction.



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User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 20):
RR have won the Cebu A330 order:

Do we yet know which leasing company the frames will leased from?



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User currently offlineFocker From Netherlands, joined Jan 2011, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Are there any further press conferences planned by A or B?

I looked on the airshow's website but could not find any announcements.

Reason I am asking: Will we see more orders?


User currently offlinehuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1117 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2947 times:

Today is the final day of the air show. A total of 100,000 tickets were on sale, and they were all sold out this morning.

Visited yesterday and wished I went on trade days instead. The crowds are maddening!



It's huaiwei...not huawei. I have nothing to do with the PRC! :)
25 lollomz : Did Merpati Nusantara place an order for the Comac ARJ-121 at the show? According with wikipedia there is an order for 40 planes in February..... ????
26 rotating14 : I'm waiting anxiously for the widebody order that Lion Air is supposedly supposed to make this month. Anybody know something about this??
27 mandala499 : The deal hadn't come through yet... the COMAC guys at the airshow accidentally disclosed that and then recanted what they said... according to one of
28 lollomz : Ok, thank you.
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