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Pilot Dies On A CSA Czech Airlines Flight!  
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 13383 times:

Hello everybody,

Czech media is reporting a sad event: a Czech pilot aged 55, dies today on board a CSA Czech Airlines flight on its scheduled flight from WAW to PRG. The flight landed safely in PRG. Landing was classified as emergency. No news if the deceased was the capitan or FO. No news if the plane was a A319 or ATR.

The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

A truly sad event. RIP!!

Adam

Link (Czech only): http://zpravy.idnes.cz/na-letiste-ru...i.aspx?c=A120215_130543_domaci_zep


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User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 13366 times:

Where is that once great airline going to...

User currently offlinesimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12972 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

In addition to the sadness of the pilot's death, this is a sad move by the pilots' union.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12954 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

I was just thinking, what kind of silly people are in that association?



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1894 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12954 times:
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That's truly terrible news..

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):

The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

How dare they make such a claim! What kind of people are running association :S

Martijn



Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5741 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12911 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):

The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

BS. It's just CZALPA trying to abuse the personal tragedy to prop they own agenda. I gues being a union boss means having no class.
CZALPA's share of responsibility on the current not-too-great condition of the airline is indisputable

Also, it would be a better to quote some more respectable news outlet than idnes, you know what sort of journalistic sewage they are.


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12870 times:

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 2):

In addition to the sadness of the pilot's death, this is a sad move by the pilots' union.

Infact its quite a disgusting claim.. Whoever said it should resign.


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5741 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12757 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
what kind of silly people are in that association?

Most of OK's pilots. One of the most militant unions in the country, btw. I guess one can seriously question their judgment while in midair when they obviously lack common sense and class in banal situations such as this one.


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1445 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12410 times:

How awful for the crew involved especially the other pilot who had to juggle the flying of the aircraft with a dying colleague sitting beside.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):

The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

What sort of jackasses are employed by these unions? I know there are many pilot organisations out there that have dillusions of grandeur but seriously to claim this just moments after the event happened is insensitive and crude. Are they doctors now? Do they know of the said pilots personal health? I seriously hope who ever made this statement lent his/her name to it!



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12317 times:

he was the captain on an ATR42....

The pilot association made a very silly movement... it´s not the right moment to talk about this issues... And less without being sure of the cause of the death....


User currently offlineEY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11932 times:

First of all my condolences to the family and friends of the pilot.

I personally believe that the most probable cause of the death was heart attack and we all know how important is a quick response in these situations. Accordingly to the Aviation Herald the plane was approaching Prague when this happened and the plane continued its landing.

I'm asking this question to the flight crews here on a.net. Flight attendants are trained for CPR. Would it be possible for flight attendants to perform CPR while the plane is landing (with the help of a doctor if one was amongst the passengers)? I know that this means having the Captain outside the cockpit as the floor space on a ATR is quite limited and I know that this could cause some concern amongst the passengers. I also know that every one must be seated for take off and landing but this is a situation when every seconds count.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7246 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11477 times:

Sad news.

When I flew Czech from BCN-PRG-BCN almost exactly two years ago (can't believe it's been that long since I was in BCN) it was a fantastic flight with a great crew. Service was fantastic, seats had lots of leg room everything about both flights A320 and 734 were fantastic. Only hope the best for the airline.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks ago) and read 9710 times:

Quoting EY460 (Reply 10):
I'm asking this question to the flight crews here on a.net. Flight attendants are trained for CPR. Would it be possible for flight attendants to perform CPR while the plane is landing (with the help of a doctor if one was amongst the passengers)? I know that this means having the Captain outside the cockpit as the floor space on a ATR is quite limited and I know that this could cause some concern amongst the passengers. I also know that every one must be seated for take off and landing but this is a situation when every seconds count.

Not during approach.... The correct procedure is to secure the captain on the seat and expedite the approach, and maybe if the F/O consider necessary one of the Cabin crew stay in cockpit to read check list or the same F/O do it by himself talking loudly so the CVR can record... Also after landing the plane has to stay on the runway because the ATR can´t be taxi by the F/O.... so I guess the ambulance was waiting in the taxiway and helping the captain as soon as they land....


User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9058 times:

Really sad news, I remember my flight MAD-PRG (OK701); nice flight, great service, hope OK could survive this crisis without any more "casualties".

Odpočívej v pokoji kapitána

Best Regards



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineasteriskceo From United States of America, joined May 2004, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8905 times:

Quoting Tupolev160 (Reply 1):

What does his death have to do with the greatness of the airline?


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6167 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 12):
Also after landing the plane has to stay on the runway because the ATR can´t be taxi by the F/O..

A little bit OT. Really? Have they fixed this problem in the new -600s?

May the Captain rest in peace.   



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 15):
A little bit OT. Really? Have they fixed this problem in the new -600s?

I don´t think so.... I haven´t seen the cockpit yet... but in the pics there´s not steering in the right....

The only wat to taxi the plane from the F/O side is setting the steering OFF and using differential braking but it´s not recommended it might cause brakes overheat.....


User currently offlineMFranssen33 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2012, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

Wow kinda shocked!

I was yesterday in Prague, when we requested start-up we had to wait because of this emergency. At that moment we didn't knew it was a medical emergency. Then when the ATR came in it parked on the 60s or 70s parking stands and then the ambulance came. So we thought maybe a passenger who got sick/not feeling well. Very sad to hear that the captain died.

May the captain rest in peace.

[Edited 2012-02-16 03:45:32]

User currently offlineShany From Germany, joined Jul 2008, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

http://avherald.com/h?article=44aef202&opt=0

Shany



ETOPS - Engines Turn Or People Swim
User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5486 times:

I'm curious...where the passengers informed that the pilot had passed away?

User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3006 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

RIP to the pilot.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):

The head of the Czech Pilots Association said, the cause of death might be related to the stress OK pilots are living under this management: cutting money, cutting routes, more flight time, constant fear of being fired, etc.

What a statement. To use someone's death to drive your agenda... What kind of union is this?



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User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Quoting asteriskceo (Reply 14):

Nothing - the airline is decaying without any link to this death. Is just a set of negative conditions getting together.


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 19):
I'm curious...where the passengers informed that the pilot had passed away?

What I read in the news later is they did not know. They were just told "to prepare for an emergency landing".

After landing, evebody saw how they are moving the capitain to an ambulance, everybody was in shock.

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlinepiper737 From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

This sad event shows the reason why pilots should go on pension at age 55.
It's a fact that the risk of health problems rises exponentially at that age.


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