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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11760 times:

It seems like the old thread has disappeared for some reason so I'm taking the opportunity to start a new one.

And may I start off with some shameless self-inquiry? If anyone happened to snap a pic of LX8 departing last friday the 10th (HB-JHJ) or LX9 arriving last sunday the 12th (HB-JHE) I would really appreciate it if you'd shoot me a mail or a pm! Alternatively i'll be on LX16 tomorrow  

In case the old thread is somewhere in the forum and I simply haven't seen it feel free to delete this one.

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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 11331 times:

Somehow very quiet overhere.

Is there any schedule or scheme available about the repainting process of LX aircraft to the 'new' livery?



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User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2191 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 11322 times:

Just wondering, but do LX have any plans to re-open a crew base in Geneva ?

With 10 aircraft now based in GVA, I imagine the cost of accommodating crews in Geneva must be quite high. Similarly, there must still be a number of crew members who live nearer to Geneva than Zurich and wouldn't mind being based there.


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 11229 times:

Interestingly, LX has increased its offer in GVA by +7.4% in 2010, but loadings have been hardly affected, with a slight decrease from 80.8% to 79.5%, which, given the frequency increases to LCY and DME and various upgauges, still denotes of a strong demand.

User currently offlinehbjza From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11161 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 2):
Just wondering, but do LX have any plans to re-open a crew base in Geneva ?

With 10 aircraft now based in GVA, I imagine the cost of accommodating crews in Geneva must be quite high. Similarly, there must still be a number of crew members who live nearer to Geneva than Zurich and wouldn't mind being based there.

That's a big mistery form me as well.
But what I think is that they mostly have crew routes starting and ending in ZRH. I could easily imagine something like ZRH-GVA-LCY-GVA-ZRH or ZRH-GVA-MAD-ZRH and ZRH-MAD-GVA-ZRH.

Could anyone enlighten us on that, thanks in advance...


User currently offlinedens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11059 times:

Quoting hbjza (Reply 4):
But what I think is that they mostly have crew routes starting and ending in ZRH. I could easily imagine something like ZRH-GVA-LCY-GVA-ZRH or ZRH-GVA-MAD-ZRH and ZRH-MAD-GVA-ZRH.

I don't think that the routing ZRH-GVA-LCY is feasible as normally flights ZRH-GVA are operated by A319/20/21... and GVA-LCY by Avro. I don't know if this is the case every day but in Madrid, Moscow and Athens, a flight that arrives from Geneva departs later to Zurich and a flight arriving from Zurich departs to Geneva. This may also be true for BCN and LHR.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 11049 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 2):
Just wondering, but do LX have any plans to re-open a crew base in Geneva ?

With 10 aircraft now based in GVA, I imagine the cost of accommodating crews in Geneva must be quite high. Similarly, there must still be a number of crew members who live nearer to Geneva than Zurich and wouldn't mind being based there.

Many LX crew live in the GVA area. I frequently fly LX GVA-ZRH to connect at ZRH (usually a flight that leaves GVA around 1010). There are usually a dozen or so LX crew members (both pilots and cabin crew) deadheading on that flight to operate flights from ZRH.

I have also seen many LX crew travelling as passengers on ZRH-GVA flights, presumably on their way home (usually late evening flights).


User currently offlinedens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10871 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
Many LX crew live in the GVA area. I frequently fly LX GVA-ZRH to connect at ZRH (usually a flight that leaves GVA around 1010). There are usually a dozen or so LX crew members (both pilots and cabin crew) deadheading on that flight to operate flights from ZRH

The crew of LX 23 that lands in Geneva at around 9:30 fly to ZRH on a flight at around 10h...


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10800 times:

Nothing new about SN starting BRU-BSL 2x daily.
But it seems that LX is keeping their 2 flights as well. This seems way too much for this routing if you ask me.

12345.. BRU BSL 0640 0755 SN2701 AR1
12345.. BRU BSL 0825 0930 LX 761 AR1
......7 BRU BSL 1715 1830 SN2705 AR1
12345.. BRU BSL 1845 2000 SN2705 AR1
1.3.5.7 BRU BSL 2135 2240 LX 767 AR1
.2.4... BRU BSL 2205 2310 LX 767 AR1

12345.. BSL BRU 0650 0755 LX 760 AR1
12345.. BSL BRU 0825 0940 SN2702 AR1
......7 BSL BRU 1900 2015 SN2706 AR1
1.3.5.7 BSL BRU 1955 2100 LX 766 AR1
.2.4... BSL BRU 2025 2135 LX 766 AR1
12345.. BSL BRU 2030 2145 SN2706 AR1


I thought SN was replacing LX.

Or is it just our GDS which has not been updated yet?



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User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 10432 times:

It sounds unlikely that LX will retain BSL-BRU, as they need the metal for other routes.

Within the LH Group, this airline substitution makes more sense, as BSL is no genuine hub for LX, while BRU is for SN.

I just hope LX will be able to add some more flights and destinations from BSL at a later stage.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 10399 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Thread starter):

It seems like the old thread has disappeared for some reason so I'm taking the opportunity to start a new one.

And may I start off with some shameless self-inquiry? If anyone happened to snap a pic of LX8 departing last friday the 10th (HB-JHJ) or LX9 arriving last sunday the 12th (HB-JHE) I would really appreciate it if you'd shoot me a mail or a pm! Alternatively i'll be on LX16 tomorrow  

In case the old thread is somewhere in the forum and I simply haven't seen it feel free to delete this one.

Hey Sandro, unfortunately I don't have a pic. Not like back then when you had your first take-off on line with a 319 a few years ago (when was it?).
BTW the old thread was closed because it hadn't any posts for a month. I also started a new one but did not see your's, you were first  


User currently offlineWY101 From Oman, joined Feb 2012, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10366 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 3):

Why don't LX open a base in GVA. Did SR have huge operations in GVA?


User currently offlineTatTVC From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10306 times:

As much as I would love to practice my German (gotta take that B2 level test before I send my resumé over to LX!), I'll keep up my mother-tounge english qualification I guess:

Sandro, in answer to your question, I have some pictures from my observer flights of some LX a/c in and around ZRH on January 15 of this year, if that helps at all- I believe I also saw you in person outside the training center there in Kloten, however the Swiss pilot I was visiting with didn't know you well so I didn't want to sound like a stalker, introducing myself, only knowing your celebrity from this website!

-TatTVC



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10288 times:

Quoting WY101 (Reply 11):
Why don't LX open a base in GVA. Did SR have huge operations in GVA?


I believe LX now has 10 aircraft based in GVA and has been gradually adding service over the past couple of years. LX still has much less GVA service than Swissair prior to the mid-1990s when they moved almost all their GVA flights to ZRH, leaving GVA, which had been a secondary hub, with only a few European destinations plus JFK.

Swissair was hated in GVA after those changes although it was the correct move as a company to establish one strong hub at ZRH. Switzerland is too small for two hubs so close together.

Fortunately for GVA, EasyJet was just getting started about that time. It gave them a major opportunity to grow rapidly and they've been GVA's largest operator for the past few years, now with about 38% of total passenger traffic, followed by LX with about 15% (then LH with 6%, AF with 5%, BA just under 5%, and the other 40+ carriers serving GVA with the remaining 31%).

LX now has about 10 nonstop destinations from GVA and about 35 daily departures. They just added a new route to NCE, a 2nd daily flight to DME, and a 3rd daily to MAD. EasyJet has close to 40 destinations from GVA.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 10186 times:

Hi

I know that the seat configuration on the A343 in Y is 2-4-2, but when checking the seat plan on my LX flight to LAX next month, some rows have missing seats. For example, row 26 and 27 are both missing seat B and J, and row 33 is missing J while row 40 is missing B. Are these seats block?



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User currently offlinehbjza From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10019 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):

Actually it's closer to 60 as today they serve exactly 58 destinations out of GVA.


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9918 times:

Quoting 330lover (Reply 8):
Nothing new about SN starting BRU-BSL 2x daily.
Quoting SR4ever (Reply 9):
I just hope LX will be able to add some more flights and destinations from BSL at a later stage.

It is more likely that they will disappear from this airport completely. They wanted to gain back market shares with introducing the bmi flights form BSL, only to announce less than a year later that they will drop LHR, MAN, CPH and BUD completely and reduce FCO to 4 flights a week.

Brussels Airlines takes over the route to BRU and LX again starts LCY with two flights a day.

There are strong rumours that easyJet will base an 8th aircraft in Basel this year. Last year 5 millions passengers passed through the airport, but only some 250 000 on Swiss. This number will once more decrease this year.

For possible easyJet destinations, I wouldn't be surprised to see BUD and MAN on the timetable (EZY just cancelled all MAN-ZRH flights and LX had really good numbers on the BUD flights).



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User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9895 times:

Perhaps LX should consider DME from BSL...

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9844 times:

Quoting hbjza (Reply 15):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):

Actually it's closer to 60 as today they serve exactly 58 destinations out of GVA.

EasyJet's website currently shows 55 destinations, but I expect some are seasonal summer services that haven't yet started.

My 40 number for EasyJet destinations from GVA was based on the current winter schedule as shown in the GVA airport publication listing carriers and destinations from GVA this winter. It's usually fairly accurate. Counted EasyJet destinations in that document again and still get 40. I expect that number will be higher in the equivalent summer schedule publication. For example, I doubt they're flying to Greek Islands in February.

For some reason I can't link to that publication but it's the first item on the following page from the GVA airport site. It's easier to read (PDF) if you click "Download" rather than "Browse".
http://gva.ch/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-56/


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2191 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9787 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 17):
Perhaps LX should consider DME from BSL...

As far as I know LX have now reached the maximum number of flights allowed to Russia as per the bilateral agreement. I believe the bilateral is based on Russian and Swiss carriers operating the same number of flights in total.

It took LX quite a substantial amount of time to be able to add the second flight from GVA. BSL-DME can in any case be routed through ZRH quite efficiently.


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9461 times:

On a sidenote, it looks like HB-JHL made its first commercial flight today as LX146 to DEL. Maybe an insider can confirm this, as I pulled this info out of ZRH departure board (no arrivals shown for JHL).


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User currently offlineWY101 From Oman, joined Feb 2012, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9429 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):

Thanks for the information. I see ZRH becoming a very strong hub.


User currently offlineLXLucien From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 264 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8923 times:

Had a short talk with a guy from the Swiss Legal Department who's responsible for Leasing and so on.
We chatted about the Air Australia A332 (ex SR HB-IQR) which is now back in ZRH after an Odyssey from HNL.

Here's a picture of it


Sadly I didn't asked him about some things, but maybe you guys know this too.

Does the HB-IQR belong to LX (or some leasing company) or what's her owner?
What will happen to her? I've heard that it will undergo some Maintenance first... but then?
Thanks for any info!



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User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8863 times:

Quoting LXLucien (Reply 22):
Does the HB-IQR belong to LX (or some leasing company) or what's her owner?

The aircraft is still registered in Australia (VH-SSA). According to the CASA's official online registry, the aircraft belongs to a company with the name "AIRCRAFT MSN 324 LLC"

SSA&meta_A=-allresults&meta_o_sand=&meta_m_sand=&meta_X_sand=&meta_r_sand=&meta_q_sand=&meta_xyear_sand=&meta_Y_sand=&num_ranks=10&Search=Search" target="_blank">http://casa-query.funnelback.com/sea...amp;num_ranks=10&Search=Search


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8537 times:

Supposedly SWISS wanted to make a final decision this year if they will upgrade the A340 fleet with the new First Class, which also means to replace the current IFE system as the current system is not compatible for the 23in screens. Are there any news regarding this issue?

25 mcg : With the completion of the B concourse at ZRH, are the 'bus gates' on concourse A still in use? By 'bus gates' I mean the gates where the passengers a
26 Post contains links dens : SWISS offers new codeshare services with Darwin Airline on th following routes : - Geneva-Luxembourg - Geneva-Genoa - Geneva-Lugano - Zurich-Genoa as
27 panamair : Yes, they are...though they have been renumbered...used to be A1, A2, etc. down on the ground level, but they are now A50-59.
28 mcg : Thanks for the info.
29 Post contains links LONGisland89 : It looks like LX has adjusted its new livery on HB-JHL with 'SWISS' being centered between the first two emergency exit doors. Was this done with the
30 SR4ever : I have seen this, yes, and they offer connections to DME this way. Does the LUX-GVA sector by F7 qualify for Miles and More?
31 Eurohub : I fly MAN-BSL about 4 times a year with LX and whilst I'm personally disappointed, I can understand that poor loads might have been a factor. I alway
32 EY460 : I have few questions for my fellow Swiss a.netters. When Swissair and Crossair were still alive, my home airport, Genoa, had multi-daily connections t
33 PhilInBRN : It was just announced on Thursday that LX would codeshare with F7 on the Genoa routes as well as on the entire Darwin network out of GVA. This should
34 SR4ever : Perphaps the day when LX will buy Darwin and rename it Swiss Regional is getting closer...
35 mozart : GVA-LUX by Darwin? What happens/happened to the Luxair flight on which I believe LX code shared? As for business links between Geneva and Genoa I coul
36 EY460 : Thanks PhillnBRN. It sounds a great news. One more option to fly out of Genoa. I don't think cruises is the answer. Cruises tends to leave on weekends
37 SR4ever : LG still operates LUX-GVA on its own, and has even increased its weekfay offer from 2 to 3 daily flights. These flights had never been code-shared wi
38 boeing773W : This may have been covered in another forum, but does anyone know why or when LX cancelled the ZRH-SOF service? Any plans to resume it?
39 Viscount724 : It ended October 30, 2011. The LX press release announcing changes in the winter schedule said SOF was being dropped "for economic reasons" so it pre
40 boeing773W : Interesting. Thanks for that. I was just asking because I flew the route in June last year and the planes were full both ways. I think what LX did wa
41 DALCE : Am I right thinking that WK is expecting a new Airbus 320 in 2012?
42 ka : Well, not really new: HB-IJV (former Swiss Sun a/c). Ka.
43 DALCE : hmmm, that's a pity! When will it be transferred to WK?
44 Post contains links ZRH : Check-In 2 at ZRH will be refurbished. Therefore some check-in counters have to provisional relocated: http://zrhnews.flughafen-zuerich.ch/...0120320_
45 LXM83 : Eurolot (K2) will start a 3-times weekly KRK-ZRH-KRK route on 12Jun. The schedule is as follows: K2 481 -2-4-6- KRK0650 ZRH0840 K2 482 -2-4-6- ZRH0920
46 ZRH : I am a bit disappointed about ZRH's visitor service. After the opening of terrace B, terrace E is opened again on three afternoons (Wednesdays, Saturd
47 vegas005 : I have lived here long enogh to know the Swisss sometimes need a little kick. Write them again and copy management, keep moving up till you find some
48 SR4ever : Good news, even though it would have been better to see LX operating on this route (which SR used to operate until its collapse) Anu LX-K2 code-shari
49 LONGisland89 : A noteworthy milestone today for AA & ZRH. AA has been serving ZRH for 25 years. There was a little celebration at the gate this morning.
50 Post contains links viasa : On Wednesday (04-Apr-2012) Edelweiss Air has a special charter flight from Lucerne to Pristina. I have no idea if it is a bookable charter flight or p
51 dens : This is a military flight for the Swisscoy (Swiss Army in Kosovo). I remember some years ago, when some flights were operated by Balair B767.
52 Post contains links ZRH : When you look on the numbers of the SWISS fleet March 31 2012 it looks much better than before regarding the wet-leased aircrafts: only 6 remaining. 5
53 AntonovA330 : How many were there then back in the days? Which ones did I forget except the Privatair B737?
54 DLBOIFIN : On the Finnish aviation site, flightforum.fi, was a rumor that Swiss would be opening ZRH-HEL flights, probably when the fall/winter 12/13 timetable c
55 PhilInBRN : Darwin actually started using one of their two Dash Q400 just weeks ago on the ZRH-LUG route.
56 Post contains images AntonovA330 : I like! I guess we could see a similar timetable to OSL (early morning and afternoon departures). What was the exact reason for KF to leave ZRH?
57 SR4EVER : Nothing specific to ZRH Just that KF is pulling out of non-Scandinavian airports, and will code-share with SK via CPH, instead.
58 Post contains links ManuCH : Swiss has just posted a very interesting article on their blog about network schedule planning. It's well worth reading it! http://blog.swiss.com/2012
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