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Syria: Current Problems And Aviation  
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2778 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Please delete if this has been discussed recently...

How is the situation in Syria affecting the commerical aviation industry there?

Have any airlines suspended operations to DAM? or any other airport in Syria? If yes, is it for security reasons or just because traffic has dropped off?

Is RB (Syrian Arab Airlines) operating normally?

It seems like problem areas in Damascus are fairly localized and not widespread but it is difficult to understand what is really going on there. My wife's family is from Syria and nothing is said on the phone for fear of the regime...

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User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Flights out of DAM are operating normally, but I'm not sure if there's an effect on the frequencies.

Syrian airspace usage is normal as well.

OD-BWH



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User currently offlinebwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

bmi reduced daily flights to DAM down to 3 flights a week, and crew now operate there and back rather than laying over in Damascus - one of our favourite night stops.

User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1888 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3122 times:
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As things get uglier, expect that sanctions will be enacted by the west to isolate Syria. That will likely include their flag carrier. Aviation is an unfortunate casualty in such ugliness as we are seeing now.

User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

My understanding is that RB is state owned, which will mean that they are affected by any sanctions.

If the situation really kicks off, as it did in Libya, then flights will stop.

It could be security, sanctions, cost of insurance, collapse of Syrian economy or a combination of factors.


User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1718 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 2):

True, the cabin crew operate the return flight but there is a flight crew change & the "old" flight crew fly back as passengers. Lhr-Dam-Lhr is bang on crew hours



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User currently offlineSky From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

All RB flight to AMS are cancelled for february and march. That has 2 reasons. Airbus is boycotting RB and does not deliver any aircraft parts anymore. As far as I know that effected two aircraft. So they need to cancel flights. And the AMS-DAM or BRU-AMS-ALP-DAM flights are as good as empty.

Does anybody know anything about all Freighters from Syria are banned from the European Union countries?

[Edited 2012-02-28 07:45:32]

User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

So are there Airbus now grounded?.

User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Flights are operating normally but traffic has dropped considerably. AF is not operating non-stop anymore but as a tag on AMM flights (CDG-AMM-DAM)

User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 7):
So are there Airbus now grounded?.

No, all six A320's are operational.



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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3551 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2229 times:
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Saudia and NAS suspended all flights to Syria.


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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9815 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 3):
As things get uglier, expect that sanctions will be enacted by the west to isolate Syria. That will likely include their flag carrier. Aviation is an unfortunate casualty in such ugliness as we are seeing now.

There currently is a US embargo against Syria which great restricts the operation of Syrian Air as it limits the availability of some required parts for the A320 fleet.



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User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

AZ early in January stopped all the flights to Damascus till the end of the W12.

User currently offlinetu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1255 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

All SU flights operating to DAM are on schedule and load factors have not really dropped. Crews are on normal rotation/layover at DAM. Just a bulletin saying to avoid groups of people and avoid going to areas with protestors.


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9738 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

Quoting Sky (Reply 6):
Does anybody know anything about all Freighters from Syria are banned from the European Union countries?

They are banned, but RB IMHO never operated scheduled cargo flights anyhow. They have a couple of An26 and the usual IL76 which are / have been opertated under RB probably for ad hoc charters, but where is the line drawn between civil and military operations here?



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User currently offlinemcogator From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1588 times:

What about the snow in Damascus yesterday? I would assume they don't have any deicing machines if it was required.

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