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A320 Overrun Video In Kalibo  
User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19484 times:

AirPhil Express A320 overrun in Kalibo.

"Ladies and gentlemen we are on final approach, please make sure your seat belts are securely fastened, thank you." aaaaand touch down a few seconds later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSuhDeujEM0

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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1581 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19486 times:

Floatagiest! The TD point must have been in the middle of the runway length, why didn't the pilot go around? Pretty obvious that this was going to end up with tea and no biccies in the chief pilots office.


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19332 times:

Yeah pretty crazy not to go around.

Even looked like there was a bit of a tailwind too.



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User currently onlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19211 times:

I can´t believe that they are doing that king of PA when they´re so low....

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 1):

Yes, pretty mad.... Go around is always a good option when you´re doing such a long landing.... Anyway.... everybody was OK and the plane flying again soon...


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19137 times:

looks like they landed a bit far down the runway


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User currently offlineskygirl1990 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2010, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 19094 times:

The super late touchdown is weird enough in itself, but what confuses me the most is why the PA was SO late. The pilots announcement was on *short* finals, and the FA's one was pretty much on touchdown. Almost pointless doing it then....


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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18956 times:

Wow.

When I fly, the "prepare for landing" PA announcement comes 5-10 minutes before landing. Not 5-10 seconds! This must be awful for the passengers, because many of them likely assumed the captains/fa's were running on "asian time." LOL.

The comments/laughter at the end of the video are so funny.. haha!!

*not meaning to offend anyone... people always tell me I run on asian time.

[Edited 2012-02-16 23:33:03]


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2758 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18927 times:

Quoting Jpax (Thread starter):
AirPhil Express A320

This must be a quit new A 320. They just recently received their A 320, IIRC.


User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18841 times:

I appreciate the calm of the passenger filming http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=_g6QYrvIVCk he didn't hurry to get out and add to the chaos. Crazy and ironic  

User currently offlineCM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18813 times:

What on earth were the pilots thinking? KLO only has a 2300m runway. When you are 1000m past the piano keys and still flying... All I can say is they are vary lucky the overrun area was flat and hard. If they tried that at Congonhas in São Paulo, they would have been screwed.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 3):
I can´t believe that they are doing that king of PA when they´re so low....

LOL! No kidding! It wasn't just the landing, what's with the timing of the flight crew telling the cabin to prepare for landing??? Start a stopwatch at the beginning of the video:

00:00:05 - "Cabin crew prepare for landing"
00:00:14 - "Ladies and gentlemen, we are on our final approach... "

An eternity of floating down the runway

00:00:26 - touchdown
00:00:45 - Airplane enters the grass overrun area
00:00:50 - My new favorite YouTube contributor says "Nice landing" and laughs. Too funny.

Thank goodness everyone is able to laugh at this one after such a poor performance from the flight crew. It could have been tragic.


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18789 times:

Looks like they came in kind of fast too. At least the ground was pretty soft.

User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18673 times:

Oh come on... that ground is solid, just taxi back onto the runway like nothing happened... probably wouldn't be the first time... lol

Love the laughter and comments being made in all three videos.



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User currently offlinebomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18539 times:

Talk about a flight crew being behind on the aircraft.

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 7):
This must be a quit new A 320. They just recently received their A 320, IIRC.

Lets hope this was the underlying problem with this. If not we got some issues with said airline. Either way, the crew should be let go due to poor judgement.

Peace   



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7261 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18232 times:

I'm landing there in about 6 weeks, was gonna be on them too..:-P Looks like it's gonna be fun...lol

User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18157 times:

DOH!...Palm trees seem to be indicating a tailwind...nothing like a "floater" to welcome you to your vacation...howz about requesting a wind check on your next excursion to this 2300m runway / sidewalk...guys?

The transition to the grass did seem somewhat smooth...perhaps due to the unique talent in the cockpit...   


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18154 times:

It could be just me, but I heard no engine reverse after landing.

User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17936 times:
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Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 2):
Even looked like there was a bit of a tailwind too.
Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
Palm trees seem to be indicating a tailwind

If you catch the windsock at 0.35 in the video its definitely a downwind landing.

Completely unacceptable lack of procedure and regard for 120 souls from a commercial flight crew.

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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17867 times:

Quoting 76er (Reply 15):
It could be just me, but I heard no engine reverse after landing.

I thought exactly the same when I first watched it, but watching it a 2nd time then as the spoilers deploy there is a definite change in "wind noise" - It's just hard to make out over the tyre noise.


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17696 times:

Wow that must have been pretty scary seeing the tarmac disappear from beneath you on to the grass. Thank god there was no hill or ditch at the end of the runway.

Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 5):
The super late touchdown is weird enough in itself, but what confuses me the most is why the PA was SO late. The pilots announcement was on *short* finals, and the FA's one was pretty much on touchdown. Almost pointless doing it then....
Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
When I fly, the "prepare for landing" PA announcement comes 5-10 minutes before landing. Not 5-10 seconds!

Maybe they think it is alright to say it as long as before they touchdown, that being 5-10mins before or even 5-10 seconds as we just saw!



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 17114 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 16):
If you catch the windsock at 0.35 in the video its definitely a downwind landing.

Barely. Looked like a light quartering tailwind, I estimate about 5-7 knots.That's well within limits of many airline SOPs.
For the windsock to be completely horizontal the wind has to be upwards of 12 kts.

They're still idiots for not doing a rejected landing either way.


User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16775 times:
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Boy I'm just in the mid stages of flight training and my mind told me to go around. Talk about Pilot error.
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User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16482 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
When I fly, the "prepare for landing" PA announcement comes 5-10 minutes before landing. Not 5-10 seconds! This must be awful for the passengers, because many of them likely assumed the captains/fa's were running on "asian time." LOL.
Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 5):
The super late touchdown is weird enough in itself, but what confuses me the most is why the PA was SO late. The pilots announcement was on *short* finals, and the FA's one was pretty much on touchdown. Almost pointless doing it then....

I can't open the video at work, but I have heard FA's on some recent flights do it late SIMPLY BECAUSE some guy/gal decided to get up at the last second to attempt to use the bathroom (yes on short final...)

Possible it was said to sit someone down?

Ill watch the video later



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User currently offlineCyanide72 From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16312 times:

I'm amazed at how calm the atmosphere is in the aircraft despite them having overrun the runway.

Compared to the age old 767 overrun video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf18WqFoucE these passengers make a runway overrun seem as normal as a walk in the park...

All that aside, what on earth were the pilots thinking?! Sigh...


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16270 times:

Quoting Cyanide72 (Reply 22):
I'm amazed at how calm the atmosphere is in the aircraft despite them having overrun the runway.

I bet it's mostly because very few people even realized it until several minutes later.


User currently offlineDBQ From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16219 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 21):
I can't open the video at work, but I have heard FA's on some recent flights do it late SIMPLY BECAUSE some guy/gal decided to get up at the last second to attempt to use the bathroom (yes on short final...)

Possible it was said to sit someone down?

I got the feeling maybe her announcement was directed at someone.


25 flanker : Looked like it was way past the middle of the strip...the markers on the other end were visable when the camera started shaking from the landing.
26 71Zulu : Now way was the FA PA directed at anybody, she was speaking generally. The pilot didn't even give the prepare to land until 23 seconds before touchdow
27 Post contains links 71Zulu : There's a part two to the video http://youtu.be/vlFOJ6Dpta8 And part 3 http://youtu.be/_g6QYrvIVCk Is that full flaps on the A320?[Edited 2012-02-17 0
28 Post contains images flanker : maybe they are just used to it..
29 tguman : There are some airports in the world where despite the wind, landings or takeoffs must be done using one runway direction and not the other. I don't
30 Post contains images wilco737 : I like the comment underneath the video: "I had no idea that we were off the runway until I looked at the video." Landing was very far down the runway
31 Kaiarahi : It's the setting for a soft field landing.
32 Post contains images 71Zulu :
33 bwphoto : Any comments on the emergency personnel response? I'm no expert, but it seemed like there was some confusion and arm waving.
34 western727 : What exactly is a soft field landing? The runway is paved, hence my curiosity.
35 davs5032 : I think there's a joke in there somewhere that you're missing..
36 CM : It is something you might attempt in a J-3 with tundra tires while hunting in Alaska, but in this case I think it was a pretty funny joke.
37 Post contains images jetblue777 : I agree.
38 filoflyer : i have flown with 2p (airphil express) a couple of times already.... as i can recall they would announce ''prepare for landing'' 10 mins before and an
39 Post contains images plunaaircanada : lol! halfway down the runway and still flying: "ladies and gentlemen, we are on our final approach" -------------- =_-_- -----------------------------
40 Kaiarahi : Although I've done plenty of them in C172s and Hercs on grass strips.
41 spacecadet : Yeah, that's the first time I ever laughed out loud at a runway overrun. You usually don't hear sarcasm from the passengers in that situation.
42 filoflyer : FLying- More fun in the Philippines. hahahaha!
43 BoeingVista : Yes, re-watching the video the timing is cross the threshold at 00:16, 12 second float to TD at 00:28 pass first end marker at 00:33; so he must have
44 MHTripple7 : Hmmmm, this makes the EU Blacklisting and U.S. CAT II ruling look much more credible. Despite the video being rather hilarious, there is a serious dis
45 Post contains images western727 : Oh, brother........... And my wife teases me about being too literal sometimes to the point of missing such things. Of course, I "deny" it all the ti
46 rj777 : I would seriously like to know the outcome of this. I bet the authorities are gonna want to see this tape!
47 Akiestar : And QF's repeated aircraft groundings and incidents with its planes don't make Australia's Cat I rating incredible? Please. How can you conclude that
48 Post contains images CURLYHEADBOY : Silly question here, likely but... Isn't it strictly forbidden to use electronic devices during taxi, takeoff and landing? ( I have the announcement r
49 musapapaya : There are occassions that 1 is just too many. And first overrun in 1-2 years isnt that rare - whens the last time they have such an incident in the U
50 Tomassjc : I don't believe there's a problem unless the camera is in a mode where it sends or recieves a signal. Still it's one too many when the country is und
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