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Oversold! 2 Pax Allowed To Fly In Washroom On PIA  
User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 212 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19952 times:

PIA allows 2 people to fly in the washroom because there were no seats!

Here is the link:


Link here only in Dutch

[Edited 2012-02-17 19:03:01]

40 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinedirtyfrankd From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19820 times:

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsde...ets-due-to-shortage-of-seats-.html

http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=35336

Incredible!!


User currently offlineEricR From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1803 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19805 times:

It's almost like having their own private suite with running water.

User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19762 times:

Quoting dirtyfrankd (Reply 2):

Thanks for the link! I edited the original.


User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19362 times:

While i couldn't read Dutch....i can honestly say sitting in the lav for a flight would almost sound like heaven compared to coach on some airlines.

User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5393 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 19186 times:

When my family and I flew to Tahiti on TN, there was a paying passenger on the right aft jumpseat - facing the lav door around a meter away.

Overbooking - she was not amused.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18876 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 7):
When my family and I flew to Tahiti on TN, there was a paying passenger on the right aft jumpseat - facing the lav door around a meter away.

Overbooking - she was not amused.

I would be.

Then again, I'm on Airliners. Something tells me some would like to do it... I would, at least once.



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User currently offlinejoelyboy911 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2009, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18713 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 8):
Then again, I'm on Airliners. Something tells me some would like to do it... I would, at least once.

I'd be keen!

Given a choice between sitting in the lavatory, or missing the flight, I might be inclined to take the lavatory, to be honest. In terms of safety, it's appalling (and shouldn't be allowed - as I'm sure it isn't), but as I say, all other things being equal, there's a fair chance I'd rather arrive on time than sit in some hotel or airport lounge waiting for the next flight, especially if it was a long wait for said flight.

That said, I see the flight was a domestic one between Karachi and Lahore, a route which has up to 16 frequencies daily on 4 airlines (according to Google) so these passengers really should have been accomodated on another flight.

[Edited 2012-02-17 23:38:12]


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User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1941 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18634 times:

I was on an Aero Mexico flight from Tijuana to Puerto Vallarta in November of 1975 that was over sold and they put one person in a lav.

User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18592 times:

My sister flew on Aero Mexico from LAX to ACA a long time ago. When they checked in and got seat allocation, the aircraft was a B722, but on getting aboard discovered that the aircraft was actually a B721 with a lot of rows missing at the back. The extra pax, which she was one, had to sit down on the floor for the flight.

User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18201 times:

Now get me some AVOD in there & i'd be happy 


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3274 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18095 times:

Hopefully, the a/c had 3 lavs. Having both lavs occupied for the entire flight (granted only about 1 hr.) could be a nightmare.


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 17997 times:

Does'nt sound very safe.

AFAIK there are no belts in there, surely that it why the toilets are closed for TO and landing.

Think I would wait for the next flight.


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 17185 times:

Wonder if they had to vacate their "seat" whenever someone needed to use the lav.

777fan



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16306 times:

Local air safety authorities may not do much unfortunately, but they should. This is against any and all moral and legal rules. What if there had been an emergency, severe turbulence or even a sick pax who needed access to the lav?

Too bad the pax who got these 'seats' didn't put up a big stink - as they should have - for being put there, but I guess in their situation (as in some countries) they would have arrested for interfering with a flight crew and preventing their travel. Perhaps it was a very heavy travel day with no space in any other flights within a reasonable time, perhaps these pax had to be at the destination for their job, or a funeral or wedding and played it too close to when they had to be there, perhaps too bad weather that day or a previous day made it impossible to fly when they could.


User currently offlineoutbackair From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16305 times:
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In the 1980s, flew from Gaborone to Johannesburg on an Air Botswana HS-748 (yes, the REAL 748!). The male F/A was on the 'throne' at the back with the door open. He announced where he was with the PA microphone in his hand. All of us at the back turned around, looked and laughed, while he though the had pressed the 'talk' button and told the whole plane.

User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 13018 times:

I guess this is when padded toilet seats come in handy!!

I've noticed a lot of aviation articles are Dutch, is there a particular reason
For that?



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

This would be extremely illegal in the US. Toilets are not certified for carrying passengers.

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 10):
My sister flew on Aero Mexico from LAX to ACA a long time ago. When they checked in and got seat allocation, the aircraft was a B722, but on getting aboard discovered that the aircraft was actually a B721 with a lot of rows missing at the back. The extra pax, which she was one, had to sit down on the floor for the flight.

AM never had 727s. Maybe it was MX, but I'd be shocked if either airline actually allowed this. It wouldn't shock me had it been any other shady Mexican airline, but certainly not MX or AM.


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 12695 times:

Prior to bankrupcy BRA Airlines in Brazil used to dispatch flights with FA standing to give their jumpseats to pax's! Only believed when two of them told me, and they accepted cause they were afraid of losing their jobs, in the end they did, sad but true!



PS- In Brazil this is illegal!


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 12539 times:
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Quoting YYZAMS (Thread starter):

PIA allows 2 people to fly in the washroom because there were no seats!

It sounds like flying used to be, in the really good ol' days when I was young.

Back in about 1953 (I was in my early teens), the pilots of Aden Airways took me on a flight to the Yemeni hinterland to deliver some cargo. It was a bare metal interior DC3.

We picked up three local passengers for the return. They simply squatted on the floor and half way through the flight one of them lit his Primus (kerosene) stove to make us all a nice cup of tea.  

mariner



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User currently offlinevlad1971 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 11378 times:

well .. back in 1993 I was flying on AF B742 from CDG to MRU via SEZ . Being a NONREV got a jumpseat but did not actually realized that it was crew rest seat . After take off I was told to get up and walk for the remaining of the flight and I could return only for a landing in SEZ . After wandering on an aircraft for a few hours while everyone were asleep including most of the FA's I just went to one of WC's closed the lid and slept there for few more hours . Was terrible experience but at least I got to MRU together with my friends who just bought tickets on the same flight ... The only complaint I have that Cabin Crew were really rude to me and I also did not get anything to eat or drink for an 8 hour flight . The new crew who came onboard in SEZ for MRU leg were really nice and even allow me to seat in First class for the remaining of the flight which was only 4 hours or so . Just very funny to remember how I slept in the toilet ..

User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 9202 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 18):
AM never had 727s. Maybe it was MX, but I'd be shocked if either airline actually allowed this. It wouldn't shock me had it been any other shady Mexican airline, but certainly not MX or AM.

Probably was MX then, it was in the 1970's. She showed me the boarding pass and a pic of the aircraft which was a B721. She thought it was all part of the "adventure"  


User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1064 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 9113 times:

I was on an MX flight in the early 80's where there was at least 10 people without seats scattered around the 727.


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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1039 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 8997 times:
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Quoting rlwynn (Reply 23):
I was on an MX flight in the early 80's where there was at least 10 people without seats scattered around the 727.
Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 10):
The extra pax, which she was one, had to sit down on the floor for the flight.

What would this have done for MTOW or centre of Gravity? Apart from the obvious issues no seatbelts, evacuation risk and general logistics of getting round the cabin, this sounds seriously suspect!?

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User currently offlinevaus77w From Australia, joined Aug 2011, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 8807 times:

Hope Michael O'leary doesn't get any ideas from this!

25 rlwynn : Yes it does seem seriously suspect from a standpoint of the airlines. But that is how flying inside of Mexico was. The trip was from San Jose del Cab
26 oldeuropean : Until the 80th (and perhaps also in the 90th), TK was famous for pax standing and sitting in the aisle, on flights from Germany to Turkey in the summe
27 YYZAMS : That is hilarious! Wonder if it happens somewhere in the world today.
28 reifel : When I was kid in the early 80s we got some charter flights for expats before christmas on CAAC from a random chinese town to Guangzhou, from which we
29 Fly2yyz : This was recently?! I didn't think pax sitting in jumpseat would ever be considered...or they would ever sell it as a revenue seat.
30 anstar : More than likely it was someone on staff travel that was offered the jump seat - I don;t know any airline that allows revenue pax to utilise a jumpse
31 The777Man : I flew on the jump seat as an eight-year old on SK....in 1974. I flew with my parents ARN-LLA (domestic in Sweden) and we were on AD75 tickets. I thin
32 Post contains images reifel : Yes, this was in September 2010 on the FRA-SIN-CGK flight in a 744. Although I wouldn't guarantee for that I guess they were no nonrev passengers, si
33 milesrich : The flight from TIJ to PVR was a DC-9-30. It stopped in LaPaz on the Baja.
34 milesrich : Come to think of it, AM didn't fly LAX-MEX nonstop or LAX-ACA, did they?. Wasn't that a Mexicana and Western route? Mexicana first had Comet 4C's and
35 Airvan00 : Someone up thread it was probably MX.She was just over twenty at the time and airline recognition was no that important. But stilling on the floor fo
36 liftsifter : Having been a passenger victim to overbooking once, I'm happy I wasn't offered the lav! I was given a bump to business, and wasn't complaining!
37 lhr380 : Would not recommend jump sets to anyone lol I only only take them if it's a last resort when I'm flying non rev. (had to once do it SFO LHR, NOT pret
38 B2468 : Interesting to read these stories. Just last month (Jan 2012), I flew on a major United States airline from a major Asian city to a major USA city (I
39 reifel : This is indeed strange. On every airline I fly I recall f/a's checkin nobody in the lavs and locking them for departure and landing...
40 milesrich : I can assure you it happened. I saw it, and I don't make things up. That AM domestic operation was really something to watch. I lived in Southern Cal
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