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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 42660 times:

Southwest Airlines first ever Boeing 737-8H4! Courtsey of Boeing and the Southwest ELP Facebook Page

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/737-8H4/swa81.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/737-8H4/swa8.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/737-8H4/swa82.jpg

Copyright © 2012 Boeing. All Rights Reserved.— in Renton, Washington


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 42673 times:

Is there something written over the 2R door or is it a reflection?


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5579 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 42647 times:

Note the "ETOPS" markings on the nose gear door.

On the move... great things to come!



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 42451 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 1):

Is there something written over the 2R door or is it a reflection?

It looks like it says "eperimental". I think aircraft makers put that before it is inspected, correct me if I'm wrong. just my   
Here's to WN and Boeing!    



Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5945 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 42269 times:
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I saw this airplane in the paint shop at Renton the other day on my way home from work. The "experimental" ticket is only valid for the flight "over the hill"...between Renton and BFI.

User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 42159 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 3):
It looks like it says "eperimental

On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....Just like the nosegear door. Anyone else agree?



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 42018 times:

Beauty! Nice to see a brand-new airplane come out in bold color! An ETOPS 738 for WN - a sign of progress.

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 5):
On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....Just like the nosegear door. Anyone else agree?

I agree. That's what it looks like to me.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2994 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 41980 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 5):
On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....Just like the nosegear door. Anyone else agree?

Looks like it might... But it strikes me as an odd thing to do, given the rego right next to the door...


User currently offlineN211BW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 41899 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 5):
On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....Just like the nosegear door. Anyone else agree?

That is correct. WN will begin adding fin# to their fleet. On the nose wheel doors and between aft doors and the USA flag.
The numbers may not reflect the registration numbers when FL aircraft become WN.

Personally I think they should place it on the very top of the vertical stabilizer like foreign carriers do.

[Edited 2012-02-17 22:52:53]


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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 41586 times:

...............................ETOPS....................

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 41576 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 7):
Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 5):
On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....Just like the nosegear door. Anyone else agree?

Looks like it might... But it strikes me as an odd thing to do, given the rego right next to the door...

For now, nose numbers and tail numbers will match. That's to give WN employees some time to get used to the new idea of having nose numbers. Later, the permanent nose numbers will be attached and will be different than tail numbers. N8301J will have a tail number of "8301" and a nose number of "4301" (I think).

LOVE the WN -800!!!



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 41445 times:

That looks great!!! I think it's one of the best liveries to grace the 737-800.


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 41445 times:

Earlier this morning, some photos of N8301J were posted of it entering the paint facility last night. Then came this thread with these pics. Looks like it took @ 24hrs to paint. Is that about normal?


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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2994 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 41429 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 10):
For now, nose numbers and tail numbers will match. That's to give WN employees some time to get used to the new idea of having nose numbers. Later, the permanent nose numbers will be attached and will be different than tail numbers. N8301J will have a tail number of "8301" and a nose number of "4301" (I think).

Ah, okay thanks for that... Makes sense now  


User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 40806 times:

My friends have said that BWI will be one of the first cities to see the 8H4's - for their LGA service.


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 40790 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 14):
My friends have said that BWI will be one of the first cities to see the 8H4's - for their LGA service.

It is possible it might be used for BWI-LGA but right now...

First Revenue Date
April 11th, MDW-FLL Flight 1717 for the 737-800

Soon it will become both MDW and BWI based to do Florida Runs, West Coast, and Trans Cons.

The plane sure is a beauty!  

Alex



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9689 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 40578 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 12):


Earlier this morning, some photos of N8301J were posted of it entering the paint facility last night. Then came this thread with these pics. Looks like it took @ 24hrs to paint. Is that about normal?

No it is 3-4 days for a typical 737.



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 40454 times:

As of now, they are not scheduled for LGA or EWR service. They'll have 5 by the end of April and 33 by the end of the year.

I'm guessing at some point one of the ETOPS -800's will be taken out of revenue service to do ETOPS proving runs?



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User currently offlinewestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 751 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 38015 times:

Now, that's a sexy-looking 738!!   I think it looks better in the WN livery than the 73G does.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 4):

Now that the text above door 2R been shown to not be "experimental" in subsequent posts, I'm still curious about your statement. Are you saying that aircraft are technically "experimental" on first (and maybe subsequent, pre-delivery) flights?

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 17):

Are ETOPS proving runs still necessary at this point in the 738's history?



Jack @ AUS
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37836 times:
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Quoting western727 (Reply 18):

Now, that's a sexy-looking 738!! I think it looks better in the WN livery than the 73G does.

Am I missing something? To me, it looks absolutely identical to the -700, only 19 feet longer. WN's marketing people could have simply re-used all the -700 images for the recent press, and I doubt even 1% of their audience would know!



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User currently offlinewestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 751 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37721 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 19):

You're absolultey right, it's pretty much the same paint job...it's merely a matter of opinion. WN's livery I think looks nicer in the 738's proportions...notably the "smaller" (in proportion) vert stab of the 738. Sure, less than 1% of the audience would notice...if even 1/4 of that.  



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37619 times:

The first 5 cities to see the 737-800 were announced as MDW, BWI, FLL, RSW and PHL.

Just my 0.02



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User currently offlineultrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37493 times:

Wiil WN schedule a logner turn around time to get the additional passengers on/off?

Also does anyone know if they have toyed with the idea of double jet bridges or is that too difficult with a single level plane?


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4223 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37343 times:

Quoting N211BW (Reply 8):
Personally I think they should place it on the very top of the vertical stabilizer like foreign carriers do.

Most carriers have the ship identification on the nosewheel doors as well as the top of the vertical stabilizer.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 37273 times:

Quoting western727 (Reply 18):

Are ETOPS proving runs still necessary at this point in the 738's history?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but ETOPS is not necessarily for the 737-800 specifically, but for the Airline, Southwest in this case to prove THEIR ETOPS capability using the 737-800 aircraft.

Alex



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 37721 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 24):
Quoting western727 (Reply 18):

Are ETOPS proving runs still necessary at this point in the 738's history?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but ETOPS is not necessarily for the 737-800 specifically, but for the Airline, Southwest in this case to prove THEIR ETOPS capability using the 737-800 aircraft.

Right. The -800 has been around for almost 15 years. It's absolutely a proven airplane for any mission. However, WN has never used it for long overwater routes. So the ETOPS process will be for certifying SOUTHWEST and not the -800. Even if WN got the 777 tomorrow, WN would still have to go through the ETOPS process if that were the first time they'd do overwater routes.



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User currently offlineHumanitarian From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 35992 times:

ETOPS is written on the gear doors so that the ground and air staff know to treat that aircraft as an ETOPS qualified aircraft. It requires special mandatory maintenance and other servicing procedures to ensure operational safety during an ETOPS flight. These special procedures and requirements must be followed even during non-ETOPS flt ops to make certain the aircraft is kept airworthy for an eventual ETOPS flight. The extra operational procedures cost additional money so an operator would not do this unless they intend to operate the aircraft in ETOPS.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6326 posts, RR: 33
Reply 27, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 36135 times:

Forgive my cynicism but wow! Another picture of a Southwest 737!


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5757 posts, RR: 6
Reply 28, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 35678 times:

That looks weird. I'm used to stubby WN planes. I'm sure I'll get used to it pretty quick, though...

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 29, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 35656 times:
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Quoting usflyguy (Reply 17):
Now, that's a sexy-looking 738!! I think it looks better in the WN livery than the 73G does.
Quoting 2H4 (Reply 19):
Am I missing something? To me, it looks absolutely identical to the -700, only 19 feet longer. WN's marketing people could have simply re-used all the -700 images for the recent press, and I doubt even 1% of their audience would know!
Quoting western727 (Reply 20):
You're absolultey right, it's pretty much the same paint job...it's merely a matter of opinion. WN's livery I think looks nicer in the 738's proportions...notably the "smaller" (in proportion) vert stab of the 738. Sure, less than 1% of the audience would notice...if even 1/4 of that.



Honestly, I don't think these photos are a great representation of what the livery looks like on the -800. These were taken with an ultra wide-angle lens so there is a lot of distortion that exaggerates the proportions.



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User currently offlineadg737800 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 35461 times:

Good looking ship - really sits well in Southwest colours!!!

Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 23):
Wiil WN schedule a logner turn around time to get the additional passengers on/off?

Also does anyone know if they have toyed with the idea of double jet bridges or is that too difficult with a single level plane?

Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less so I don't think Southwest would really need to add in extra time. I guess also FR will also pack in more seats than Southwest will in a 738.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 31, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 35173 times:
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Quoting adg737800 (Reply 30):
Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less so I don't think Southwest would really need to add in extra time. I guess also FR will also pack in more seats than Southwest will in a 738.

With the crazy baggage numbers at WN right now thanks to the free bag campaign, they will either need to add staffing or add time to the turn around for the -800s. We can't even turn a -700 in under 20 minutes these days...

[Edited 2012-02-18 15:09:59]


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User currently offlineWN787 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 34146 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 31):

With the crazy baggage numbers at WN right now thanks to the free bag campaign, they will either need to add staffing or add time to the turn around for the -800s. We can't even turn a -700 in under 20 minutes these days...

I sure hope additional staffing at the least happens!

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 27):
Forgive my cynicism but wow! Another picture of a Southwest 737!

I gotta kick outta reading that. But it is 19 more feet to LUV



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User currently offlinequickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 33837 times:

Are these additional aircraft or are they replacing the 300s and 500s as they are delivered?

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Reply 34, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 33824 times:

Wow,that looks amazing

User currently offlinelaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 33777 times:

CONGRATULATIONS to both parties, WN and Boeing! This is fantastic This will lead to great things to come for WN including expansion and most likely Hawaii. the -800 looks great in the WN paint scheme. When did WN receive their ETOPS?

Thank you,

laxboeingman



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 36, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 33665 times:

Quoting quickmover (Reply 33):
Are these additional aircraft or are they replacing the 300s and 500s as they are delivered?

Yes..No...it's not really aircraft type specific. -300's will be retired..-700's will fill in..then you have -800's that are theoretically to replace the -500's..but then FL's 73G's will be sent in to be retrofitted and something has to replace that while it is being worked on. It's quite a circumnavigation of "shuffle the planes". Truthfully, the -800 will not be a DIRECT replacement of a specific aircraft type or aircraft but more so to aid in the rotation among the different 737's as they are retired, worked on, retrofitted...on and on.

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 35):
When did WN receive their ETOPS?

They haven't yet, WN is working on that right now.

Alex



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 37, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 33206 times:
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Quoting western727 (Reply 20):
WN's livery I think looks nicer in the 738's proportions...notably the "smaller" (in proportion) vert stab of the 738.

Ah, gotcha.



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User currently offlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 572 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 32978 times:

Will their 800s be Telair equipped? If not, they will need an extra person because nobody is turning an 8 in 20 minutes.
I'd love to see that one. Over a 100 or so bags plus freight and mail. Ain't happening.



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User currently offlinedfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 39, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 31971 times:

Quoting adg737800 (Reply 30):
Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less so I don't think Southwest would really need to add in extra time. I guess also FR will also pack in more seats than Southwest will in a 738.


Doesn't FR use dual airstairs for some operations? WN will exclusively use a single jetway.


User currently offline737tanker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 31312 times:

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 38):
Will their 800s be Telair equipped? If not, they will need an extra person because nobody is turning an 8 in 20 minutes.
I'd love to see that one. Over a 100 or so bags plus freight and mail. Ain't happening.


For ground operations the -800s will be equipped just like the -700s. As for 20 minute turns I can't remember the last time I was scheduled for one of those. The next trip I'm doing is a 4 day with 11 legs. Only 1 turn is 30 minutes, the others are all scheduled for 35 or 40 minutes. There should be no problem turning a -800 in 30-40 minutes and that appears to be becoming a normal WN turn.


User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 30423 times:

Turn times for all 800 lines are 45 minutes on domestic lines. When international and Etops flying start turn times will be 1hour. Enjoy wnfg.


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User currently offlinequickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 30049 times:

Ironic that they could of kept all of those ATA 737-800s several years ago.
Wonder what the thinking was at the time, letting those aircraft go back to the owners.


User currently onlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 43, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 29797 times:

Quoting quickmover (Reply 42):
Ironic that they could of kept all of those ATA 737-800s several years ago.
Wonder what the thinking was at the time, letting those aircraft go back to the owners.

I don't think WN had any ownership over ATA at the time of their shut down, just a codeshare. Before that they only held about a 30% stake, they never majority owned the company, so WN couldn't just dictate what happened to the 738s.


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 44, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 29758 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 41):
Turn times for all 800 lines are 45 minutes on domestic lines. When international and Etops flying start turn times will be 1hour.

Any source on that info?



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 45, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 29803 times:
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Wow::: I am a proud WN mech.. This will be a great addition to our fleet as will the Max. I haven't had the chance to go to technical training on the 800 yet but I've been reading everything I can about the new AC pack systems and various differences. I work line maint. but in DAL we will be seeing these on a very limited basis (read hardly at all) for some time to come.

Some want to burst our bubble but I think travelers are going to be impressed. Our new seats with the Sky interior..great combo. I think.

737tdi


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 46, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 29661 times:
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Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 44):
Any source on that info?

I think that is a source.


User currently offlinefrontierflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 47, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 29529 times:

Big deal, call me when they paint a 717.

User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 45
Reply 48, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 29539 times:

Coming from a self-proclaimed WN basher, the WN livery has never looked better on any of their aircraft.

Simply gorgeous!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 49, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 29479 times:

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 38):
Will their 800s be Telair equipped? If not, they will need an extra person because nobody is turning an 8 in 20 minutes.
I'd love to see that one. Over a 100 or so bags plus freight and mail. Ain't happening.

There's a trade-off with having a majic carpet. On the plus side, you load the a/c much faster and only require one person in the bin. On the negative is the added weight. DL installed majic carpets on the 75Xs back when they were SONG to compete with JetBlue's turns and most PMNW 752s has carpets and all the 753s has it (basically a must). DL's older 738s had the majic carpet system but they were all removed some years back and at some point new deliveries came without them. With that said, does anyone know if WN opted for them?

Quoting frontierflyer (Reply 47):
Big deal, call me when they paint a 717.

Same thing i'm saying!! Now that would be one sexy beast.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 50, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29411 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 48):
Coming from a self-proclaimed WN basher

Now that's just anti-Texan all the way around  



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 51, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29370 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):
Southwest Airlines first ever Boeing 737-8H4! Courtsey of Boeing and the Southwest ELP Facebook Page

Interesting place to find it...I surmise that ELP will be a most rare station to find an -8H4 at  



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20191 posts, RR: 59
Reply 52, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 29139 times:

Quoting Humanitarian (Reply 26):
The extra operational procedures cost additional money so an operator would not do this unless they intend to operate the aircraft in ETOPS.

I thought UA started doing ETOPS MX for all aircraft and found that it reduced their tech delays.

So... am I crazy to think that it's going to be HI? Or do you think it'll be the Caribbean?


User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 29103 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 31):
With the crazy baggage numbers at WN right now thanks to the free bag campaign, they will either need to add staffing or add time to the turn around for the -800s. We can't even turn a -700 in under 20 minutes these days...
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 49):
There's a trade-off with having a majic carpet. On the plus side, you load the a/c much faster and only require one person in the bin. On the negative is the added weight. DL installed majic carpets on the 75Xs back when they were SONG to compete with JetBlue's turns and most PMNW 752s has carpets and all the 753s has it (basically a must). DL's older 738s had the majic carpet system but they were all removed some years back and at some point new deliveries came without them.

There is nothing worse than trying to load/unload a 753 with a broken carpet....But back on topic, I hope for their handlers' sake they have the carpets in there. The weigh penalty is worth it in the 738 (DL used to have carpets in some of the MD88s - that seems a little silly but the 738s deserve it). Trying to toss 150 bags is tough work, but the entire back bin of a 738 sloping up toward the tail makes it twice as hard to unload.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 54, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 29054 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 52):

So... am I crazy to think that it's going to be HI? Or do you think it'll be the Caribbean?

Not crazy at all. I fully expect WN to go to Hawaii since they're investing in ETOPS. Also, you don't need ETOPS for the Caribbean as evidenced by Spirit and B6.

Quoting captainstefan (Reply 53):
I hope for their handlers' sake they have the carpets in there. The weigh penalty is worth it in the 738

Unfortunately no. I agree with you that the weight penalty would be worth installing the carpet or telescopic bin, and it would also reduce the number of ramp agents in the back bin. I did hear the actual reason why WN didn't install the carpet, but forgot what it was. WN sprung for the Sky Interior so I'm happy!



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 55, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 28934 times:
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Quoting captainstefan (Reply 53):
Trying to toss 150 bags is tough work, but the entire back bin of a 738 sloping up toward the tail makes it twice as hard to unload.

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it. Especially since no one seems to know how to stack bags anymore. Everything ends up a messy pile at the bulk-head making things difficult as it is on the -700s and -300s. I hate it!



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 56, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 28915 times:

Back on topic, when will N8301J go outside in the daylight? Anyone grab any pics of it outside sitting on the ramp in RNT?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26702 posts, RR: 75
Reply 57, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 28892 times:

Quoting western727 (Reply 18):
Are ETOPS proving runs still necessary at this point in the 738's history?

Its the airline, not the airplane.

Quoting adg737800 (Reply 30):
Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less so I don't think Southwest would really need to add in extra time. I guess also FR will also pack in more seats than Southwest will in a 738.

FR uses air stairs at almost every station - even those that have jetways.

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 39):
WN will exclusively use a single jetway.

Not at BUR.

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 39):
Doesn't FR use dual airstairs for some operations?

Most operations.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 58, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 28901 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 57):
Quoting western727 (Reply 18):
Are ETOPS proving runs still necessary at this point in the 738's history?

Its the airline, not the airplane.

Correct, but doesn't WN still have to fly the plane to Hawaii testing radio equipment, doing inflight shutdowns, etc...? It's the airline not the airplane, but WN needs to prove they can satisfy ETOPS requirements should they need it.



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 59, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 28191 times:

Quoting adg737800 (Reply 30):
Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less

But doesn't FR load from both ends using stairs? With the exception of BUR, WN only has single-point entry/exit.


User currently offlineCairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 27891 times:

Nice!!! After talking to the WN cargo agents at BDL the other day, BDL is going to be getting the -800's on the Vegas flight. Suprised to hear that.

User currently offlineGingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 898 posts, RR: 5
Reply 61, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 27531 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 60):
But doesn't FR load from both ends using stairs? With the exception of BUR, WN only has single-point entry/exit.

Usually yes from what I have seen personally. Never flown FR, but the boarding process whilst fast doesn't look pleasant in the slightest.



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User currently offlinecessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 62, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 27370 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 60):
With the exception of BUR, WN only has single-point entry/exit.

Don't forget about ALB...WN uses dual jetbridges.


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Reply 63, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 27293 times:

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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 64, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 27124 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 55):
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it. Especially since no one seems to know how to stack bags anymore. Everything ends up a messy pile at the bulk-head making things difficult as it is on the -700s and -300s. I hate it!



And I really don't know how people can screw up a stack in a 700. It's like the golden jewel @ DL along with the 319s. One guy up there and you're reaching barely a few feet to grab the back and stack it. Keep it nice and tight!



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 65, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 26959 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 65):

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 55):
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it. Especially since no one seems to know how to stack bags anymore. Everything ends up a messy pile at the bulk-head making things difficult as it is on the -700s and -300s. I hate it!



And I really don't know how people can screw up a stack in a 700. It's like the golden jewel @ DL along with the 319s. One guy up there and you're reaching barely a few feet to grab the back and stack it. Keep it nice and tight!



You would think it would be easier on the load agent to short-stack small to medium loads, but no. Many cities consistently send small loads stacked against the wall. Although, sometimes it's the pilots' fault. Small stacks can shift during heavy braking on landing. But yeah... Somewhere the "art" of stacking got lost at WN.



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 26585 times:

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 63):
Don't forget about ALB...WN uses dual jetbridges.


Really? I remember they had em at AUS for awhile...but haven't seen that in a LONG time.


User currently offlineodwyerpw From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 878 posts, RR: 2
Reply 67, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 26179 times:

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 63):
Don't forget about ALB...WN uses dual jetbridges.

They do have it, so generally I just go to the very back of the plane so I can exit off the rear jetway when it lands in Albany (yes, I live in Mexico, but I fly Tucson AZ to Albany NY at least 4 times a year). Time and time again, they don´t employ the rear jetway and I am left feeling, no so smart. That´s okay, Albany landings are generally rough (frequent overcast skies), so I don´t mind the few extra minutes in my seat to settle my belly.

But I don{t want to take the topic off track. Hope someday to catch on one of the738s on one of the filight legs. Often time East Coast to West Coast has me changing planes in Vegas.

[Edited 2012-02-19 14:01:56]


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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 68, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 26152 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 58):

Quoting adg737800 (Reply 30):
Ryanair turnaround their 738s in 20 minutes or less so I don't think Southwest would really need to add in extra time. I guess also FR will also pack in more seats than Southwest will in a 738.

FR uses air stairs at almost every station - even those that have jetways.

I believe they do this because it is cheaper, well thats what I heard anyway.



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User currently offlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 572 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 26080 times:

The reason why I originally mentioned about their 800's being Telair equipped, because they are known for quick turns. But you won't turn a 800 in 20 minutes no matter what the circumstances. You might can do it in 30, but that's cutting it close and not doing it safely. We (on the CO side have plenty of 800s and we usually take about 35 to 45 depending on the load. No Telair. 2 agents; 1 lead. The 800 (and the 900 with special loading procedures) is a whole different animal than the classics and the 700.

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User currently offlineFlyASAguy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 70, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 25617 times:

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 70):
You might can do it in 30



Do I see al ittle southern twang 'up in there'? LOL j/k but seriously, you're not going to realistically schedule a 737-800 for 20 minute turns with the amount of bags and passengers that they will have; carpet or not. Regular freight was one thing but with DL picking back up mail contracts recently, it's not fun unloading 2,000+ pounds of mail from the back bin. That by itself can take upwards of 20 minutes because one guy has to chuck every single piece and the other getting it on te belt with 1 MAYBE 2 at the bottom catching them and putting them in carts.



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Reply 71, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 25125 times:

I believe WN opted out on the Magic Carpet option for the Boeing 737-800.. If that plane leaves out with 175PAX, I suppose that would equal to around 200-250 bags on a full -800 flight..

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 65):
And I really don't know how people can screw up a stack in a 700.

You'd be very surprised..

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 56):
Back on topic, when will N8301J go outside in the daylight?

I cannot wait to see more pictures, shes a good looking plane!

Quoting frontierflyer (Reply 47):
Big deal, call me when they paint a 717.

ALOT of people, and I mean ALOT laughed at the thought of a SWA 737-800 a few years ago, its kinda ironic that some of these thoughts ( i.e. Delta Airbuses, UA Airbuses in CO colors,etc ) seem to be coming to life within the last few years. However if you really wanna see a WN 717 http://www.aimhigherjets.com/Boeing-...thwest-Airlines-Model-p/swa717.htm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 31):
With the crazy baggage numbers at WN right now thanks to the free bag campaign, they will either need to add staffing or add time to the turn around for the -800s. We can't even turn a -700 in under 20 minutes these days...

Completely agree with you Ryan!



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 72, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 24926 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 72):
I believe WN opted out on the Magic Carpet option for the Boeing 737-800.. If that plane leaves out with 175PAX, I suppose that would equal to around 200-250 bags on a full -800 flight..

Are people checking that many bags? That would be pretty high for a normal domestic flight on mother D; even on a 753. DL 2034 which many refer to in Minneapolis as the monster is usually full departing Atlanta every night (224 folks). Normally there are between 200 and 220 bags sometimes a little more sometimes a little less. All local bags btw so lots of bags to drop on a belt.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 73, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 24933 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 73):
Are people checking that many bags? That would be pretty high for a normal domestic flight on mother D; even on a 753. DL 2034 which many refer to in Minneapolis as the monster is usually full departing Atlanta every night (224 folks). Normally there are between 200 and 220 bags sometimes a little more sometimes a little less. All local bags btw so lots of bags to drop on a belt.

Over the past 2 years our baggage counts have skyrocketed! 160+ bags on a -700 is becoming a normal daily sight. A few years ago that was unheard of, even during the holidays. And one factor to consider with turn times at many stations, a good 60% of those bags are connections. Sorting our offloads really slows things down! And on top of the number of bags, the size and weight of each bag has gone way up as well so they are much harder to handle. Now some of these concerns might be normal business for people at other airlines, but it's all relatively new to us at WN.

[Edited 2012-02-19 22:19:31]


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User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 24748 times:

Quoting FlyASAguy2005 (Reply 71):
because one guy has to chuck every single piece

Uphill is the kicker. At least it's not like the front bins of DC95, you can actually get a good stance in the 737 bins.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 75, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 24653 times:

Anyone in PAE or RNT see the plane outside yet? When does it make its flight over to PAE?


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User currently offlineyeelep From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 669 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 24019 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 76):

I believe BFI is still where 737's are delivered from. That said, I don't know when it will fly.

[Edited 2012-02-20 10:18:59]

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 77, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 22302 times:

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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9689 posts, RR: 52
Reply 78, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 22112 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 76):
Anyone in PAE or RNT see the plane outside yet? When does it make its flight over to PAE?

It is typically 4-5 days between rollout and first flight. Since it rolled out last Friday, expect it to be flying Thursday or Friday.

It will typically fly to Moses Lake but also sometimes go to Yakima, Pasco or Paine Field on their first flight for a few landings and then to Boeing Field that day. Typically 737NGs do not fly to PAE, although occasionally they do test flights there depending on weather. They are more likely to be seen in winter when there is bad weather at the preferred airports in Eastern Washington.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 23
Reply 79, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 22034 times:

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 21):
The first 5 cities to see the 737-800 were announced as MDW, BWI, FLL, RSW and PHL.

PHL?  Wow!

Not that I'm complaining, mind you; but I thought with all of WN's recent service reductions at PHL that it would be one of the LAST airports to see their 738s.



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User currently offlineSWAFA27 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 49 posts, RR: 1
Reply 80, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 21561 times:

Is the second -800 going to be 8302J?? Has it started the assembly process??


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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Reply 81, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 21470 times:

Can someone please post the list of SWA registrations for the new 737-800 ( i.e. N8301J, N8302C,etc )


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 82, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 21341 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 79):
It will typically fly to Moses Lake but also sometimes go to Yakima, Pasco or Paine Field on their first flight for a few landings and then to Boeing Field that day. Typically 737NGs do not fly to PAE, although occasionally they do test flights there depending on weather. They are more likely to be seen in winter when there is bad weather at the preferred airports in Eastern Washington.

WN actually has a contract maintenance provider at PAE...not Boeing (but someone else based there). It is not uncommon for WN 737's to ferry to/from PAE for MX.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9689 posts, RR: 52
Reply 83, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 21293 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 83):

WN actually has a contract maintenance provider at PAE...not Boeing (but someone else based there). It is not uncommon for WN 737's to ferry to/from PAE for MX.

That's very true. There are frequent SEA-PAE with the occasional OAK-PAE flight for maintenance. However, it won't be visiting PAE for that purpose prior to delivery.



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 21255 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 82):
Can someone please post the list of SWA registrations for the new 737-800 ( i.e. N8301J, N8302C,etc )


CH-Aviation has these listed, but there's also 9 aircraft listed ahead of these with no reserved reg so they might not come in this order.

N8301J
N8302F
N8303R
N8305E
N8306H
N8307K
N8308K
N8309C
N8310C
N8311Q
N8312Q
N8313F
N8314L
N8315C
N8316H
N8317M
N8318F
N8319F
N8320J
N8600F



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 85, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 21035 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 85):
CH-Aviation has these listed, but there's also 9 aircraft listed ahead of these with no reserved reg so they might not come in this order.

Anybody have any idea what the last letters are for or mean?



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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 970 posts, RR: 1
Reply 86, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 20131 times:
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Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 86):

Anybody have any idea what the last letters are for or mean?

They are just random letters - likely whatever was the first available letter with the desired number combination.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 87, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 18885 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 48):
Coming from a self-proclaimed WN basher, the WN livery has never looked better on any of their aircraft.

Agreed! This livery looks great in a 737. Hell, any livery looks great on the 737. Well done, WN and Boeing!

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 49):
Quoting T5towbar (Reply 38):
Will their 800s be Telair equipped? If not, they will need an extra person because nobody is turning an 8 in 20 minutes.
I'd love to see that one. Over a 100 or so bags plus freight and mail. Ain't happening.

There's a trade-off with having a majic carpet. On the plus side, you load the a/c much faster and only require one person in the bin. On the negative is the added weight. DL installed majic carpets on the 75Xs back when they were SONG to compete with JetBlue's turns and most PMNW 752s has carpets and all the 753s has it (basically a must). DL's older 738s had the majic carpet system but they were all removed some years back and at some point new deliveries came without them. With that said, does anyone know if WN opted for them?

CO has them too, on their 739's. I'm told that they are mx nightmare.

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 85):
N8301J
N8302F
N8303R
N8305E
N8306H
N8307K
N8308K
N8309C
N8310C
N8311Q
N8312Q
N8313F
N8314L
N8315C
N8316H
N8317M
N8318F
N8319F
N8320J
N8600F

This may not be just limited to WN, but could we now be seeing other U.S. airlines doing their registrations this way in the future now that the traditional N000XX (N + three numbers, two letters) availability is running out?? Just curious.



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User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18986 times:

First flight pics:

http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/02/p...airlines-boeing-737-800-takes-off/


Photo by David Lilienthal


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 89, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18633 times:
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Can't wait for it to get to DAL for the festivities.

User currently offlinekeagkid101 From Portugal, joined Mar 2010, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18707 times:

BWI is already prepared for this aircraft. While flying BWI-PVD yesterday, they added "717" and "737-800" to the pushback line near the jetways.

User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 18481 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 88):
This may not be just limited to WN, but could we now be seeing other U.S. airlines doing their registrations this way in the future now that the traditional N000XX (N + three numbers, two letters) availability is running out?? Just curious.

DL already does this - I'm guesing so many of their former aircraft (727s, L1011s, 762s, etc) carry NxxxDL regs and haven't been deregistered that they just can't keep up. The 737-800s especially, are being followed closely by WN's pattern - N3748Y for example. Some later-ordered 757s are just their 4 digit fleet number (N6700), a couple oddballs (N900PC), etc.

I only know for a fact that (pm)UA's fleet followed a pattern precisely (active - the DC-10s, 727s etc were NxxxxU)
N1xxUA - 747s
N2xxUA - Some 777s
N3xxUA - retired 737s
N4xxUA - A320s
N5xxUA - 757s
N6xxUA - 767s
N7xxUA - Some 777s

CO didn't even bother with letters, all of their N numbers are just 5 digits.



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User currently offlineav8orwalk From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 18333 times:

Is this aircraft going to get wifi installation before the first revenue flight? I noticed the bump for the antenna is missing from atop the fuselage. Since this is mainly a long haul aircraft, seems like wifi should be available from the beginning.

Looks like an amazing plane! Can't wait to ride one.

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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 93, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 18311 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Reply 93):
Is this aircraft going to get wifi installation before the first revenue flight?

yes, that is the plan.

Alex



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User currently offlineN471WN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1581 posts, RR: 2
Reply 94, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 18199 times:
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I was so lucky today to be in Renton and witness her first flight------she looked magnificent!!

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 95, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17997 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Reply 93):
Is this aircraft going to get wifi installation before the first revenue flight? I noticed the bump for the antenna is missing from atop the fuselage

Yeah, all -800s will get wi-fi. For some unknown reason, the plane will be delivered to WN, flown to DAL for 5 days or so, then flown back to PAE for wi-fi installation.



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User currently offlinegizmonc From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17967 times:

N 36680 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) Y175 (On Order) N8302F
N 36681 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) Y175 (On Order) N8303R
N 36683 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) Y175 (On Order) N8305E
N 36964 Boeing 737-7H4(WL) Y137 (On Order)
N 36980 3952 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) Y175 (On Order) N8301J 8301
N 36983 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) Y175 (On Order) N8306H
N 38110 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) (On Order) N8602F
N 38874 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) (On Order) N8601C
N 38875 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) (On Order) N8603F
N 39882 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) (On Order) N8600F
N 39883 Boeing 737-8H4(WL) (On Order) N8604K


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Reply 97, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 17905 times:

Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 91):
BWI is already prepared for this aircraft. While flying BWI-PVD yesterday, they added "717" and "737-800" to the pushback line near the jetways.

All of the airports WN serves has them, at ISP we even have them too..

BTW, I noticed your flag, hopefully LIS or FAO sees a WN charter or 737 someday..



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 10
Reply 98, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 17744 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 95):
For some unknown reason, the plane will be delivered to WN, flown to DAL for 5 days or so, then flown back to PAE for wi-fi installation.

I think it needs to pass mini-evac certification in DAL with the FAA first, and then heads back to PAE, looks like all subsequent deliveries get WiFi first.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 99, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 17720 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 98):
I think it needs to pass mini-evac certification in DAL with the FAA first, and then heads back to PAE

Yes, that is true. However, what does the mini-evac have to do with the Internet? I don't see why they couldn't just install the wi-fi and then send it to DAL for the mini-evac?



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 100, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 17462 times:
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Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 99):
Yes, that is true. However, what does the mini-evac have to do with the Internet? I don't see why they couldn't just install the wi-fi and then send it to DAL for the mini-evac?




On a side note. Y'all probably know this but if not... The wi-fi is not installed by Boeing so when it is installed is not really a delivery hindrance. I don't know if the aircraft make-ready is going to be done in those 5 days or not. This is where we complete the med-link installation, install emergency equipment, coffee makers, and various other items that are WN only.


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2181 posts, RR: 7
Reply 101, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 17438 times:

It's quickest to use the onboard airstairs and a set of airport steps at the rear on FR. However, at some airports they are forced to use the airbridges on the L1 door only which means longer scheduled turnaround times. For airstairs and external steps it's usually 25mins and for jetbridge 35mins.

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 102, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 17432 times:
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Quoting SXDFC (Reply 97):
Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 91):
BWI is already prepared for this aircraft. While flying BWI-PVD yesterday, they added "717" and "737-800" to the pushback line near the jetways.

All of the airports WN serves has them, at ISP we even have them too..


Not all. Not yet, at least.



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User currently offlinedfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 103, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 17424 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 99):
Yes, that is true. However, what does the mini-evac have to do with the Internet? I don't see why they couldn't just install the wi-fi and then send it to DAL for the mini-evac?

In all probability, they are completely unrelated. I would guess the availability of the FAA inspectors and the WiFi installer is driving them to ferry the aircraft rather than wait to have all of the work done in PAE before flying down to DAL.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 104, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 17288 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 102):
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 97):
Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 91):
BWI is already prepared for this aircraft. While flying BWI-PVD yesterday, they added "717" and "737-800" to the pushback line near the jetways.

All of the airports WN serves has them, at ISP we even have them too..


Not all. Not yet, at least.

All major airports in the U.S. has the capability of handling a 738, even at a station where Southwest serves. It does not matter if any of WN's gates do no have the 738 stop bar. The stop bar is easily added at WN gates. Or WN can use another gate that has the 738 stop bar in the meantime.

Just because in certain WN stations that does not have the 738 stop bar does not mean that the WN 738 cannot fly there. Like I said, WN can use other gates that has the stop bar.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 105, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 17221 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 104):
All major airports in the U.S. has the capability of handling a 738, even at a station where Southwest serves. It does not matter if any of WN's gates do no have the 738 stop bar. The stop bar is easily added at WN gates. Or WN can use another gate that has the 738 stop bar in the meantime.

Just because in certain WN stations that does not have the 738 stop bar does not mean that the WN 738 cannot fly there. Like I said, WN can use other gates that has the stop bar.

You are correct, but I don't think anyone was saying otherwise. Someone noted that the lines have been added to the gates at BWI indicating they are getting ready to handle the new fleet additions in the near future. Not every WN station has added the lines, but they will as they get ready to handle the different types.



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User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16999 times:

WN will be required to do ETOPS proving runs. It's very possible for them to go 0-180 out of the box. When we did them at Pace we were the second airline in the US to go 0-180 in one jump (the other was Aloha).

Though the plane is "set up" for ETOPS, the airline is "not" (yet). They will have a long road ahead for that based on MX, dispatch, scheduling, crew training, guest service/accommodation, even catering!

Best wishes to them!



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 107, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16871 times:
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Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 103):
In all probability, they are completely unrelated. I would guess the availability of the FAA inspectors and the WiFi installer is driving them to ferry the aircraft rather than wait to have all of the work done in PAE before flying down to DAL.




Another note, again the wifi is not installed by or even a Boeing product. My point being the aircraft/crafts in question would have to be part of the WN maintenance program prior to being worked on by an outside vendor. ATS is a WN vendor who installs the wifi built by a third vendor (Row44). Boeing has no involvement in this any longer. With that being said the aircraft can be delivered with or without the wifi and then go back to PAE later for the install. You have to realize that there are many of our aircraft at ATS for various reasons and I don't think we would delay an 800 to long just for wifi.


User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 108, posted (2 years 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16624 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 107):
ATS is a WN vendor who installs the wifi built by a third vendor

I thought WN's crews were the ones doing the Wifi installs? They originally said they were going to do 30+ planes a month. Maybe this explains why it's taking so long to get the fleet up and running.....


User currently offlinekeagkid101 From Portugal, joined Mar 2010, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (2 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16427 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 97):
BTW, I noticed your flag, hopefully LIS or FAO sees a WN charter or 737 someday..

That will be the day when pigs fly.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7317 posts, RR: 85
Reply 110, posted (2 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16473 times:
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I can't stand flying WN but that is a sexy a/c.   

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 111, posted (2 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 15980 times:
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Quoting chrisair (Reply 108):
I thought WN's crews were the ones doing the Wifi installs? They originally said they were going to do 30+ planes a month. Maybe this explains why it's taking so long to get the fleet up and running.....




Nope, we did the engineering/install on the first one but after that it is ATS doing the installs. Maybe you are thinking about the seat mods. We are doing those here in DAL. There is no way you could do the WiFi installs in one day. Don't think we can do the seat mods. in one day either but they have alot of faith in us, LOL.


User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 112, posted (2 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 15963 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 111):
Maybe you are thinking about the seat mods. We are doing those here in DAL. There is no way you could do the WiFi installs in one day.

Nope. I didn't realize ATS was doing the installs. Here's the paragraph from their blog two years ago, which leads me to believe they were hoping to have them done at the rate of ~1 per day, give or take. I figured they were doing them in DAL or PHX or the other big mx hubs.

Quote:
We’ll begin installing the equipment in the second quarter of 2010. We expect to install equipment on around 15 aircraft per month initially, with the goal of increasing that number to 25 aircraft a month as we ramp up the process. With this schedule, we estimate that our full fleet of more than 540 planes will be outfitted with wi-fi service by early 2012.
http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/it-is-official-wi-fi-is-on-the-way

If WN has to send a plane up to PAE before it can get Wifi, then no wonder it's taking them so long. Do they have to test fly the planes before they're released back to service with Wifi? I almost wish Gogo would have been used, despite the pitiful speeds and I'd have to pay for it, instead of getting it for "free" with my A-list preferred membership.


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 113, posted (2 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 15934 times:
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Quoting chrisair (Reply 112):
If WN has to send a plane up to PAE before it can get Wifi, then no wonder it's taking them so long. Do they have to test fly the planes before they're released back to service with Wifi? I almost wish Gogo would have been used, despite the pitiful speeds and I'd have to pay for it, instead of getting it for "free" with my A-list preferred membership.




Those numbers I believe were if 2 to 3 aircraft were in work at one time. Realize we have 8 to 10 aircraft at ATS at most given times. Heavy checks, WiFi mod., corrosion/skin cracks, other maint. related items. DAL/PHX etc. were never scheduled to accomplish the Row 44 install. We have 6 bays in DAL and 3 are heavy check lines, 1 is a C check line and the other 2 are for overflow/OTS/Hangar RON aircraft. We will be down to one bay for the latter once the seat mod. line gets going fully.


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 10
Reply 114, posted (2 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 15663 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 113):
We will be down to one bay for the latter once the seat mod. line gets going fully.

When does Evolve mods officially start? Are we waiting to receive enough seats, carpet etc first?



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 115, posted (2 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 15278 times:
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Quoting WNCrew (Reply 114):
When does Evolve mods officially start? Are we waiting to receive enough seats, carpet etc first?




Howdy: I'm not sure when it will start, I'm working line now so I'm a little out of the loop. I wouldn't think we are waiting for parts, they will be delivered as required.


User currently onlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1551 posts, RR: 12
Reply 116, posted (2 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 15264 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 115):
Quoting WNCrew (Reply 114):

It appears to start in the middle of March.



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Reply 117, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14791 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC0ib...all-u&context=G25c0dcaFAAAAAAAAAAA there's the first video of the WN 737-800

Does anyone know if 8302 is done yet?



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User currently offlineodwyerpw From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 878 posts, RR: 2
Reply 118, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14366 times:

Question: Did they order their 738 w the Flat BulkHead to shift the galley and add the extra seats? Does it have the Evolution entire which also allows for addtional seats?


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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 10
Reply 119, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14375 times:

Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 118):
Question: Did they order their 738 w the Flat BulkHead to shift the galley and add the extra seats? Does it have the Evolution entire which also allows for addtional seats?

No, we did not order the flat pressure bulkhead and I don't know what the "Evolution entire" is... if you're referring to Southwests EVOLVE Interior, then yes, the -800 will come equipped.



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User currently offlinegizmonc From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13563 times:

There is suppose to be 6 737-800's on property by end of April, 8301 is the first, 8302-8303 - then 8305/8305, Not sure what the next in the series is numbered. Planespotters.net does not list a 8304, they have 8600 -8604 listed . there is still a 737-700 listed but no registration number as of this morming. My understanding is that 8301 will fly SEATTLE to DALLAS on / about Mar 9th. it has not been outfitted with WIFI as of yet so it has to go back to PAE, after 8301 all 737-800's will come with WIFI installed.

User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2415 posts, RR: 22
Reply 121, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13511 times:

Quoting gizmonc (Reply 120):
there is still a 737-700 listed but no registration number as of this morming.

Maybe it will be N970WN?



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2456 posts, RR: 3
Reply 122, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13453 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 5):
On closer inspection, it looks like "8301 ETOPS".....

You can see the "8301 ETOPS" at 0:30 in the following youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC0ib...all-u&context=G25c0dcaFAAAAAAAAAAA

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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 123, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 13099 times:

So far, WN will have 8301, 8302, 8303, 8305, and 8306, which is 5 planes. Yet, 6 -800s should be delivered by end of April. Could this skipped "8304" be one of the leased ones they are getting?


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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3094 posts, RR: 2
Reply 124, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12949 times:

Love to see WN expanding their 737 offerings! Hoping against hope to see the new-style interiors on more of their a/c!


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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 125, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12519 times:
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Quoting gizmonc (Reply 120):
after 8301 all 737-800's will come with WIFI installed.



Just a clarification: The aircraft will be delivered to WN after completion by Boeing. They will then be taken to ATS at PAE or another vendor to have the WiFi installed. Row 44 is not a Boeing product thus they will not install it. Later, Boeing may install the wiring (like the MedLink mod.) but the completion will still be done by an outside vendor or us. Weird I know but I have installed alot of MedLinks that really could have been done by Boeing from the factory. They did finally start putting the extra wiring in for us.


User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12236 times:

best looking WN bird yet my opinion


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 127, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11752 times:

I think N8301J is being delivered today, MAR 8. It should be PAE-DAL. Anyone have any info or updates on it?

Also, any status on the 2nd -800, N8302?



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User currently offlineAmatiel From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11551 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 127):
I think N8301J is being delivered today, MAR 8. It should be PAE-DAL. Anyone have any info or updates on it?

737tdi is correct on where 8301 is heading. It won't be coming to DAL yet.

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 125):
Just a clarification: The aircraft will be delivered to WN after completion by Boeing. They will then be taken to ATS at PAE or another vendor to have the WiFi installed. Row 44 is not a Boeing product thus they will not install it. Later, Boeing may install the wiring (like the MedLink mod.) but the completion will still be done by an outside vendor or us. Weird I know but I have installed alot of MedLinks that really could have been done by Boeing from the factory. They did finally start putting the extra wiring in for us.


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 129, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11237 times:
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Quoting Amatiel (Reply 128):
737tdi is correct on where 8301 is heading. It won't be coming to DAL yet.




In the quote I am only referring to the aircraft following 8301, it will be sent to DAL prior to having the wifi installed. If you read back a little I mentioned this. It will stay in DAL for the hoopla and then return to ATS for the install. WN always wants to make a big deal on new things and this will be no exception. Hope she is still there when I get back to work.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 130, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11092 times:

When will 8301 be in DEN? I would love to see it!


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 131, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11030 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 130):
When will 8301 be in DEN? I would love to see it!

I think right around first week of August.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 132, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10853 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 127):
I think N8301J is being delivered today, MAR 8. It should be PAE-DAL. Anyone have any info or updates on it?

There may have been a change in itinerary... 8301J was in fact delivered today, but at a ceremony at Boeing. I think the plane will make its way to DAL towards the end of the month. It was supposed to go to DAL and then back to PAE for the wi-fi installation, but looks like it may just remain at PAE for the install and then go to DAL.



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5545 posts, RR: 12
Reply 133, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10795 times:

There are a couple of nice pix from today over on this thread:
WN Takes Delivery Of First 738 (by 9lflyguy Mar 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)

(Looks like it just started a little while ago.)

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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 134, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10505 times:
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Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 132):
It was supposed to go to DAL and then back to PAE for the wi-fi installation, but looks like it may just remain at PAE for the install and then go to DAL.

Yep: You are absolutely correct. It's going to PAE for the make ready and wifi install prior to coming to DAL.


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1983 posts, RR: 2
Reply 135, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10385 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 134):
Yep: You are absolutely correct. It's going to PAE for the make ready and wifi install prior to coming to DAL.

Good, at least that makes sense. I didn't understand the plane going to DAL for 5 days then back to PAE then again, back to DAL.

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 125):
Just a clarification: The aircraft will be delivered to WN after completion by Boeing. They will then be taken to ATS at PAE or another vendor to have the WiFi installed. Row 44 is not a Boeing product thus they will not install it.

Much clearer, thanks. Makes sense why Boeing won't touch it.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 136, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10238 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 133):
There are a couple of nice pix from today over on this thread:
WN Takes Delivery Of First 738 (by 9lflyguy Mar 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Looks like that thread has been deleted??



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User currently offlineANCsupercub From United States of America, joined May 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10200 times:

Hope to see this aircraft in ANC some day!  

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