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UA Battleship Gray Is Now History (on Mainline)  
User currently offlineAussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 442 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 15848 times:

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I think it is worth noting that today marks the end of an era. The final mainline aircraft in the Battleship Gray livery is now at VCV to be repainted into the new UA/CO scheme. The aircraft, a 777-222 was ferried to VCV this morning after flying its last revenue flight yesterday.

So long, and thanks for the memories!


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User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15619 times:

It's about time. Didn't they start painting into the blue/white livery about 8 years ago now?

User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15497 times:

As the old Hasbro board game goes: "You sunk my Battleship!" 

Sorry, but I couldn't resist. The battleship UA planes needed new paint anyway... it looked great when the planes were first painted, but it didn't age well at all. Still, it's ironic that the battleship UA planes are now painted in a livery that was launched three years before the battleship livery...

[Edited 2012-02-20 15:02:07]


"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineNWAROOSTER From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1134 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15481 times:
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Glad to know they are finally getting rid of that damn grey. It was lousy from the start and faded to chalk. I don't know who dreamed up that color. At least the Northwest bowling shoe colors looked pretty good when new, but after about six months they started fading and looked like junk also.   

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15382 times:

It must have been at LHR 2 days ago as I saw it here lol

User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15351 times:

Why was the new UA/CO livery introduced so quickly in comparison?

8 years is a very long time! I think DL and VS changed their livery twice in that time.


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15281 times:

I'm sure UA's air conditioning cost went down when they changed to a white-topped scheme.


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User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15193 times:

Quoting cipango (Reply 5):

Why was the new UA/CO livery introduced so quickly in comparison?

In part, because it's mostly CO management running the show on Wacker Drive.

Gordon Bethune said in his book that a consistent image was key for CO. Consistency was why Bethune ordered all remaining CO meatball planes (and there were a lot of them when he became CEO) repainted in the globe livery in a compressed timeframe. Apparently, Jeff Smisek is of the same school of thought as Bethune.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15175 times:

It's funny, the transformation UA's livery has seen. From sunset to battleship back to blue sunset again, and now to CO. What's next? Hopefully not battleship!


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21803 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 15116 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):
it looked great when the planes were first painted, but it didn't age well at all.

True. It was a really unique livery that could look great in the right circumstances, but that sort of grey really loses its luster with age.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 8):
What's next?

Hopefully, the return of the tulip, and some red on the plane.

-Mir



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User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1278 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14888 times:

Out of curiosity, anybody know the registration?

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2704 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14842 times:

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 10):
Out of curiosity, anybody know the registration?

The last grey one was N229UA (777-200ER), now in VCV. It replaced N206UA, which was released today form VCV - also repainted from grey.


User currently offlineMr737sjtc From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14797 times:

Hooray It's finally gone. I have always hated seeing a see of battleship gray at SFO. Too bad the last( tulip ) livery did not come sooner. Not that it mattered because United did not care about it's brand. At least CO is speeding up this process with the new UA. My only dilemma there is that the planes should have Continental instead of United on them, but I am adjusting to it slowly.

User currently offlineRising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 278 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14674 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 7):
In part, because it's mostly CO management running the show on Wacker Drive.

Gordon Bethune said in his book that a consistent image was key for CO.


Just when you think you have heard it all... someone able to link the standard merger practice of a common livery to Gordon Bethune and his book.



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User currently offlineSulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 537 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14527 times:

Quoting Rising (Reply 13):
st when you think you have heard it all... someone able to link the standard merger practice of a common livery to Gordon Bethune and his book.

Hey, if the merger hadn't happened, how many years would grubby grey have stayed around?  

I can imagine tu154 is quite happy right now. I am.



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User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14431 times:

Quoting NWAROOSTER (Reply 3):
Glad to know they are finally getting rid of that damn grey. It was lousy from the start and faded to chalk. I don't know who dreamed up that color.

The Wolfman!


User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14346 times:

The battleship grey livery was replaced on February 19, 2004 by the blue tulip.

So 8 years and 1 day to repaint the fleet.


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14281 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 7):
Apparently, Jeff Smisek is of the same school of thought as Bethune.



Wonder if he'll take anything else from the Gordo school?

Enjoyed seeing all the United aircraft today as SFO, seems about a 50/50 split between the globe and the tulip in the hour I was on scene.



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User currently offlineplanesntrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5705 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14012 times:

Personally, I'm glad to see it go. Replacing the previous livery with the Battleship Grey was, I believe, a poor decision. It seemed to look dated for me from the outset. I liked the newer Tulip Blue alright, though I think it could have been better too. No, I'm not a fan of the current branding, but that train left the station.

Not to rub anyone wrong, but when I think of the grey livery, my mind always seems to go to the bird hitting the 2nd tower on 9-11. I'm sure I'm in the minority on that one, and it certainly wouldn't affect my mindset about United, but it is good that it's gone, IMHO.

-Dave



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User currently offlineytib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13960 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 14):
Hey, if the merger hadn't happened, how many years would grubby grey have stayed around?

I was wondering the same thing...


User currently offlineczbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13665 times:

Quoting Rising (Reply 13):
Just when you think you have heard it all... someone able to link the standard merger practice of a common livery to Gordon Bethune and his book.

This may well be so but it is indeed a revelation at CO.

In the 80s under Frank Lorenzo, CO flew the most motley looking fleet around. Almost all Diesel 9s would fly into YOW. They had the colours of their constituent airlines. New York Air, Continental, Eastern, and I'm pretty sure there were a couple of others in there for good measure.

Frankie just had decals plastered over the front door with Continental written on it and that was good enough for him.

Tacky, tacky, tacky.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13498 times:
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Quoting Rising (Reply 13):
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 7):
In part, because it's mostly CO management running the show on Wacker Drive.

Gordon Bethune said in his book that a consistent image was key for CO.


Just when you think you have heard it all... someone able to link the standard merger practice of a common livery to Gordon Bethune and his book.


Gordon's point was that it was incredibly important to employee morale to get into a common livery QUICKLY and to make a key initiative of achieving that goal as fast as possible rather than going along with the common practice of only repainting aircraft when a C or D check rolled around.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1994 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13187 times:

Battleship gray was never my favorite livery, but it's still sad to see an end of an era. For years I've seen the distinctive livery fly high overhead my house on its way to or from ORD. No more colorful tulips on the tails of a United aircraft. And I miss seeing rich colors on airliners. So long, battleship.

User currently offlineEWRamp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12955 times:

I actually ran into Gordon Bethune a couple day ago at EWR.

User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12955 times:

Quoting Rising (Reply 13):
Just when you think you have heard it all... someone able to link the standard merger practice of a common livery to Gordon Bethune and his book.

No, he is correct. It is a fact. One of Gordan first actions was to compress the slow repaint process at old CO. The meat-ball had lingered much as the Grey has. Once again with a chg in leadership you see a sudden push toward consistency.


25 Post contains links and images JeffSFO : Good riddance. That livery was starting to look really shabby:
26 Chicagoflight : I remember flying a red eye from LAX to ORD sitting on the left side of the plane..... I opened the window shade just as the sun was about to rise and
27 Tigerguy : I actually like the gray livery too, and am a bit sad to see it fall into the history books. Yeah, it was a bear to keep maintained properly, but I th
28 Post contains links mike96 : Here's a couple videos I have of an A320 in battleship grey! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MDWbPUnups http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN9-vMdROgk
29 Post contains images ual777uk : Sad to see it go but it did need to go and should have gone a lot earlier. Looking forward the new livery in about 10 years time when the tulip comes
30 Archer : What is the tail number?
31 bgm :
32 Post contains links and images United787 : I agree with most that it was time for them to go but I loved the livery when it came out. I also loved the new blue sunset... A tribute to the battle
33 Rising : This common sense revelation was unique to Continental? Before Gordon Bethune, airlines took decades to repaint aircraft in a common livery when they
34 hugo : Good riddance to that awful paint scheme! I associate United's decline with that gray!!! I LOVED the Saul Bass scheme- it really represented the frien
35 FriendlySkies : I think this would mean today is the first time in almost 19 years that there is not a United aircraft wearing grey...does that make it the longest ru
36 WESTERN737800 : I agree 100% with all of these replies. The grey was an absolute dissappoitment to the livery that it replaced. About 7 years too long in my opinion.
37 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : That scheme, along with the tulip, was introduced in 1973. View Large View MediumPhoto © Jochen Beeck Although the Stars & Bars variant of the F
38 jrosa : On Feb 11, Saturday, I've flown this plane (or another UA 777 once I do not remember tail numbers) from IAD to GIG via GRU and it was funny that it ha
39 MD80Nut : Goodbye and good riddance to one of the ugliest liveries I've ever seen. The UA liveries before and after it are so much nicer to look at. IMO, of cou
40 ckfred : Steve Wolf, when he was UA CEO. If you remember the last livery at Republic, before it was sold to NW, it was gray. The last livery at US, before it
41 tu154 : AGREE!! This scheme only reminds me of our bankruptcy, the awful way we were treated by mgmnt, and just plain incompetence! I am so glad to see it go
42 ADent : Are you sure the UA planes were being painted during heavy checks? How long does a new plane go before its first heavy check - one of the last two ba
43 adambrau : Thank goodness it's gone. It launched at UA's peak and was replaced when we hit rock bottom. Onward and upwards UA!
44 bohica : They were next to impossible to see at night. Depending on the A/C type you could hear one long before you could see it.
45 AADC10 : I have said this before but I was told by a UA employee many years ago that they were told that they wanted white but the paints available at the tim
46 MSPNWA : Yes it is. I think the moisture in the air on the day of the photograph made it look worse than it really was. Looks like some condensation enhanced
47 EA CO AS : No, quite the opposite prior to Gordon's arrival - CO had taken their sweet time getting planes repainted and it was a drag on employee morale and cu
48 ckfred : When did UA adopt the gray and blue livery? I seem to recall two things. A) When UA announced its 777 order, the model was in the prior white scheme w
49 AirframeAS : The very first 777 that UA got was never in the white scheme with orange, red and blue. It was delivered in the battleship grey.
50 ord : The date of that photo must be incorrect. The Saul Bass livery was introduced in September 1974.
51 ual777uk : Exactly right. I flew her when she started on thr LHR - IAD back in '95. blimey, seems like yesterday!
52 FriendlySkies : But the order was placed prior to this so there were graphics of the 777 in the orange, red, and blue scheme. I have one at home, it looked great!
53 Post contains images PHLBOS : I originally had 1974 on my post prior to initially posting it. I checked the date on the photo and gave it a second thought then changed it. In hind
54 AirframeAS : The point I was making that the very first UA 777 delivered never physically HAD those colors. It was in those colors on paper only! And paper doesn'
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