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JZA/TCX B757 A Bust IN Canada?  
User currently offlineykaops From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 68 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

I've heard that JZA/TCX is cancelling several flights to Sun Destinations such as MBJ , PUJ due to poor loads.. and there may be more to come????

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User currently offlineCRJ 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Poor loads in the WEST, east is doing very well from what I witness onboard.... 

User currently offlineAirontario From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

The only ones being cancelled are from YVR and one route from YHZ. The flights from YYZ are all pusing a 90% load factor.

Quoting CRJ 900 (Reply 1):

IMO it wasn't a smart move to have flights from YVR to places like MBJ and PUJ. That's just too long of a flight for a weeks vacation, especially when you have places like SJD and PVR that are much closer.


User currently offlinemultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Quoting Airontario (Reply 2):
IMO it wasn't a smart move to have flights from YVR to places like MBJ and PUJ. That's just too long of a flight for a weeks vacation, especially when you have places like SJD and PVR that are much closer.

Yep, that didn't make sense. I can see why Jazz wouldn't fly to Hawaii for TCX, too much of a conflict with AC, but they should have offered flights to Mexico, which is underserved by AC out of YVR.


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Quoting Airontario (Reply 2):
IMO it wasn't a smart move to have flights from YVR to places like MBJ and PUJ. That's just too long of a flight for a weeks vacation, especially when you have places like SJD and PVR that are much closer.

I would have to agree with your questioning the destinations that Thomas Cook made for it's offerings from western Canada. It's a tough low margin business and very price sensitive relying on volumes to make a profit. It's probably fair to say that Mexico is a challenge for a lot of operator's due to the never-ending negative media reports about the country,so it's hard to say if that market would have fared any better.


User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Quoting multimark (Reply 3):
Quoting Airontario (Reply 2):
IMO it wasn't a smart move to have flights from YVR to places like MBJ and PUJ. That's just too long of a flight for a weeks vacation, especially when you have places like SJD and PVR that are much closer.

Yep, that didn't make sense. I can see why Jazz wouldn't fly to Hawaii for TCX, too much of a conflict with AC, but they should have offered flights to Mexico, which is underserved by AC out of YVR.

But aren't WS flying YVR & YYC - MBJ with 73NGs ? Perhaps PUJ as well, but I'm fairly sure about MBJ.



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Quoting multimark (Reply 3):
I can see why Jazz wouldn't fly to Hawaii for TCX

TCX (Thomas Cook) needs to make the decision first and then Jazz will then need to get ETOPS certified. From what I understand,unless TCX offers Jazz a year-round ETOPS program,ie, Canada-UK summer and Canada-Hawaii winter, an ETOPS certification is very cost prohibitive to maintain. As you know TCX supplies the aircraft and Jazz operates it on their behalf.


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