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User currently offlineCOalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12922 times:

UA/CO to start Daily Newark to Istanbul In July

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...a-istanbul-service-from-july-2012/

[Edited 2012-02-21 04:37:11]

122 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12852 times:

The link says :

"UNITED starting 01JUL12 is launching service to Turkey, with Daily Newark – Istanbul service on board UNITED 3-class Boeing 767-300ER aircraft. Including Star Alliance partner Turkish Airlines’ service, Star will offer a total of 4 Daily flights between New York area and Istanbul (July – Sep 2012 only)."

So is it UA doing EWR-IST summer-only, or is that TK ?

Either way, congrats UA/CO. This one was definitely long overdue. Glad they're filling in the gaps quickly (EZE... IST...) ... is GIG next ?


User currently offlineavi8 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 683 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12831 times:
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Pitty. I really don't like the interiors of UA's 767-300's. Old looking, no AVOD or wifi.....


avi8
User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12786 times:

This is why TK went for a further JFK flight then!


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12781 times:

Nice addition, this was one of the pieces missing from CO's trans-Atlantic network from EWR. IST, VCE and DME.


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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3711 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12695 times:

This is great news. It's somewhat a substitute to EWR-ATH.

User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12649 times:

Great news, this is the first time we will see two USA-based tails in IST I believe. But I wonder if IST-NYC can sustain 5 dailies (although I assume TK reverts back to twice daily in winter season so that will be 4 dailies)... It was just 2 dailies (TK and DL) only 2 years ago.

Congrats to UA... So far the world's largest airline had been lacking from a top 30 airport  


User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12585 times:

Great.. Wonderful to see. The Istanbul-USA market has really taken off! The turnaround time in IST is not very long however, and with this being a peak departure time at EWR, it will be tight in the case of a delay. I wonder whether they got the EWR slot from someone else, or dropped a domestic flight at this same time.

User currently offlineTurkishSky From Turkey, joined Mar 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12424 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 6):
this is the first time we will see two USA-based tails in IST

Both TWA and Pan Am flew to IST at the same time in the late 80s....



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User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12403 times:

What about connections for the return flight? Is there a bank of domestic departures around 19:30-20:00 from EWR? And I am guessing those would have to be regionals since a transcontinental at that hour or later would arrive very early next morning. Otherwise the IST-EWR flight is purely O&D.

User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12402 times:

Quoting TurkishSky (Reply 8):
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 6):
this is the first time we will see two USA-based tails in IST

Both TWA and Pan Am flew to IST at the same time in the late 80s....

Yes.. I flew PA to to ESB via IST and FRA. Those were the days. Having another US carrier in Turkey is long overdue.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12388 times:

Quoting TurkishSky (Reply 8):

Both TWA and Pan Am flew to IST at the same time in the late 80s....

I was wondering TWA as I typed that line, but for some reason I thought they didn't... Thanks for the correction  

Now we need US - I guess AA is out of the question for now  


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12130 times:

Another fantastic add for United! On a 763 no less too. I would have guessed 762 or 764. I guess they are all tied up at the moment.


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User currently offlineCO 757-300 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12030 times:

lots of turkish and middle easterners in north jersey- specifically in the Paterson area will be happy about this, the first real* nonstop north jersey - middle east link aside from TLV?

long overdue


* (i think malaysian offered EWR-DXB a couple of times weekly at some point in the past & qatar operated via GVA)


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6341 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11974 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
This is great news. It's somewhat a substitute to EWR-ATH.

I'd say it's far better than Athens, honestly. No only does Turkey seem to be growing as a tourist destination on a daily basis (Europeans always knew about it, but Americans/Canadians are finally getting onboard), but unlike Greece, the Turkish economy isn't in the dump, meaning they could get some OK business traffic as well (less than a year ago, The Economist ran an article saying that the Turkish economy actually should cool DOWN a bit, lest they get too big for their britches). Win-win, I say.


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1718 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11961 times:

Quoting avi8 (Reply 2):
Old looking, no AVOD or wifi....

Not up front where it *really* matters. It's got PTV's at least.


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11907 times:

Great news! Amazing that IST will have TK's 3 flights to JFK, plus this new United service to EWR! And that's just Star Alliance!

Very interesting that they are putting a 3-class 763 on this route. If it was going to be a 763, I would have expected a 2-class 763. Perhaps this will set the precedent for more 767 service to the Middle East (I'm thinking IAD-TLV...)

So all this leaves missing from EWR these days is GIG and ICN as far as global cities go...Anything else I'm missing?!

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
It's somewhat a substitute to EWR-ATH.

Was EWR-ATH cancelled?


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11893 times:

Not sure if UA can launch GIG from EWR. If they did perhaps it would be a tag on.

Quoting SW733 (Reply 14):

I agree. ATH didn't do so hot for CO when they operated it seasonally with the 762 over the last few years. Honestly I think this route was way overdue. CO didn't have the widebody metal to properly operate this route, I suppose. Good to see UA thinking outside of the box.

Quoting avi8 (Reply 2):

Who cares? They at least have PTVs in Y and it's a 3 class bird.



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User currently offlineCO 757-300 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11873 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 9):

the return flight should be fine as the night bank of departures offers connections to mostly anywhere in the eastern half of the US. while LAX and SFO won't work, i think they will do fine with the combination of NYC / NJ O/D + conections to places like MIA, ORD, IAH, DTW, BOS, MCO, DCA ect.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11812 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 17):
ATH didn't do so hot for CO when they operated it seasonally with the 762 over the last few years.

ATH performed a lot like FCO: seasonally strong loads and decent yields, but traffic fell off a cliff in the offseason. It was slated to go year round last year with 764 in the summer and 762 in the winter, but the Greek economic crisis, political instability and fuel prices torpedoed this one. Like CAI, I expect to see it back once things stabilize in a few years or so.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 17):
Good to see UA thinking outside of the box.

A 183-seat 763ER route from the world's largest airline's biggest transatlantic hub to a *A partner hub undergoing explosive growth is a pretty safe bet, IMO.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11751 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 16):
So all this leaves missing from EWR these days is GIG and ICN as far as global cities go...Anything else I'm missing?!

DME, VCE



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User currently onlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11727 times:

Quoting avi8 (Reply 2):
Pitty. I really don't like the interiors of UA's 767-300's. Old looking, no AVOD or wifi.....

Yes, but as noted PTVs and the 767 being the most comfortable ride with the 2-3-2 layout, I will take it any day...plus, I think UA is a far superior airline to TK, IMHO and experience.

The connections to the entire Middle East on the IST end will be fantastic!


User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11669 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Nice addition, this was one of the pieces missing from CO's trans-Atlantic network from EWR. IST, VCE and DME.

NCE would be nice too.


User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 11606 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 20):
Quoting washingtonian (Reply 16):
So all this leaves missing from EWR these days is GIG and ICN as far as global cities go...Anything else I'm missing?!

DME, VCE

Yes. And don't forget Jo'burg, and SYD (but it's out of range)

I guess with the timing back in EWR, they aren't trying to serve west coast connections.

When I flew DL to IST many years ago, there were many many west coast connections. So the flight was timed to leave JFK earlier to IST, and land back in JFK at 4 pm the next day.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 11458 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 19):
ATH performed a lot like FCO: seasonally strong loads and decent yields, but traffic fell off a cliff in the offseason. It was slated to go year round last year with 764 in the summer and 762 in the winter, but the Greek economic crisis, political instability and fuel prices torpedoed this one. Like CAI, I expect to see it back once things stabilize in a few years or so.

Ah, I see. Always wondered what the deal was with EWR-ATH and why it didn't work out -- considering DL still operates it from Kennedy. I guess you can't always print money on every route out of that airport (although it seems like in most cases you actually can.)

I do wonder how much premium demand EWR-FCO has to say EWR-MXP? FCO probably has the Y demand during the summer for a 744, but not from a F and J perspective. MXP could probably be bumped up to a 3 class 763 if there is premium demand.

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 23):

would love to see J'burg from EWR but I don't think a 777-224ER could make it.



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25 fxramper : Will this be served by IAD crews on UA metal? I'd much prefer CO crews on 752s if that plan could make it. Thoughts?
26 jfklganyc : I think between 3 daily TK flights at JFK, DL at JFK, and UA at EWR, this route is going to be a bloodbath this summer. Sorry to rain on your parade,
27 TOMMY767 : Vienna is another missing dot. Perhaps star can convince Austrian to start flying to EWR. EWR-NCE and/or VCE would be a nice 762 route for the summer
28 airlittoralguy : Does anyone know what was the schedule of the Atlanta Istanbul flights Delta operated in the 1990s ?
29 777222LR : I don't think a 752 can come anywhere near IST range from EWR. As far as crew, I am thinking is probably CO since it's EWR, but I could be wrong. Per
30 TurkishWings : So do these birds have PTVs in Y or not?? Or do they have Non-AVOD PTVs??
31 Roseflyer : PTVs in all classes. First and Business are AVOD, Economy are the older system using channels and repeating movies, but not AVOD.
32 ual777uk : Non AVOD PTVs are installed. Great additional route for UA
33 TOMMY767 : Yes they are just like the type of PTV that are on the CO 762, and non reconfigured 764s -- except with a slightly smaller screen. They also have a m
34 Post contains links FlyPNS1 : Press release is out. It will start out a 3 class 763, then change over to a 2-class 763 in late August. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UNITED...TRODUC
35 TurkishWings : I am really keen to hear about your experiences... It's pretty much a fact that, from a pax point of view, TK is one of the best airlines in the worl
36 RDH3E : Since it's a 3 class bird you know it has to be UA crew.
37 Diesel33 : When the 763s are refurbished, will they still only have PTVs in the main cabin or will AVOD be installed?
38 tcm : Well, calling TK one of the best airlines in the world would be an overstatement. But TK certainly offers a far superior hard and soft product than U
39 Post contains links RDH3E : Turkish "first" class, called business on their birds: http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...ment-seat-cip-lounge#BusinessClass United First class o
40 LOWS : I continue to be befuddled as to why OS flies to JFK over EWR. It seems like such an easy choice. A lot of my friends love NYC, but for those of us w
41 tcm : I think you should fly TK first; before making any conclusions based on photos.
42 C010T3 : IAD-GRU-GIG already serves that purpose. It's possible to fly ORD/IAD/EWR-GRU then GRU-GIG on United metal. Effective March 25th, everything will be
43 STT757 : The 767-300s that are being reconfigured from domestic to two class international will have AVOD.
44 TOMMY767 : I don't think UA has plans to upgrade the legacy 763s to AVOD. They are supposedly slated for retirement once the 787 deliveries are in full swing. A
45 United787 : It looks like this may be one of the first routes that will receive one of the newly upgraded (formerly domestic) 2-class 763s! I wonder if IAH-LIM w
46 aznmadsci : On AirlinerRoutes, it seems the 3rd daily on TK is summer only flight. Others have mentioned that the new UA flight will go from a 3-class 763 to a 2
47 TK787 : Congratulations to UA/CO and IST, long long overdue!! Someone talked about a bloodbath this summer between these airlines. I have a price alert for NY
48 United787 : Happy to share as in general I enjoyed my experience on TK but when compared to other airlines I have flown like SQ and NH, I wouldn't put UA or TK i
49 Post contains images leftyboarder : Probably not until 2013 the earliest. It is rather odd to hear that UA has better service than TK. In fact, TK service is usually better than Europea
50 RDH3E : We're debating hard product, not service.
51 Diesel33 : I thought all the international 763s were supposed to be refurbished from 3 to 2-cabin offerings. Was I mistakened? And if they are going from 3 to 2
52 Post contains images tcm : Speaking of hard product, TK offers live TV, wifi connectivity and a IFE that has more on offer than 9 channels. BTW, Can we also consider the onboar
53 Post contains images TWA772LR : IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Now CO/UA needs DXB, DOH, ICN, and JHB from any hub then they are destined for more greatness!
54 Josh32121 : I think you may have misinterpreted TK's classes of service a bit. The top product they offer appears to be comparable to business class on U.S. carr
55 COGlobeTrotter : The domestic 763s are being refurbished to a 2-cabin offering for international use with AVOD nose to tail. The current 3-cabin 763s will stay 3-cabi
56 Josh32121 : I think you may have misinterpreted TK's classes of service a bit. The top product they offer appears to be comparable to business class on U.S. carr
57 Post contains images ASA : The TK IFE collection of movies, television serials, and music (English, International and Turkish ... pop, rock, classical, you name it) is phenomen
58 TOMMY767 : At this point UA probably has the most PTV equipped airplanes in economy class though -- more than DL at the moment (yes, DL is in the process of con
59 jfk777 : IS Turkish ever going to find Newark ? Now 2 777-300ER and 1 A330-300 to JFK daily. When they began it was an A340-300 daily. 2 77W's more is now near
60 leftyboarder : With UA starting the route and TK probably codesharing on it eventually, I'd say it is even less likely now. 1000 seats per day is around 750000 seat
61 sshank : I would agree. TK offers pax a substantially superior experience compared to UA. I recently flew TK for the first time PRG-IST-JFK in business and was
62 panamair : I have flown TK quite a few times both short and long-haul, and frankly, I think they are overrated. The ground staff in IST (check-in, gate, and in
63 amax1977 : UA, keep that arrogant mindset and soon you'll end up where PanAm and TWA ended at!!!
64 Tdan : Awesome, awesome news! One of the biggest holes in the EWR portfolio...one thing that has not really been mentioned is the beyond connectivity that TK
65 Turkish350XWB : Turkey (at least IST) is Europe, dude...
66 CV880 : Delta AVOD/PTV 10 737-700 30 737-800 48 757-200 16 767-300/Domestic 7 767-300/ER 21 767-400/ER 32 330-200/300 18 777-200/ER-LR 1 747-400ER Total=183
67 leftyboarder : I agree, but I think TK will want UA to provide feed from LAX / IAD / ORD in return. Something they barely got until now.
68 CO787EWR : Well this explains why TK didn't do IST-EWR. Can we just get Vienna, Dubai, and Seoul from Newark now.
69 TOMMY767 : I wasn't including the domestic fleet. With the DTV units on the 73G, 738, and 739, I think UA wins out over DL on more PTV units.
70 LOWS : I don't understand, as I said above, that OS flies into JFK. If you need to connect from anywhere else in the US, they generally send you through IAD
71 nycdave : Possibly could, but not sure it'd be the most profitable route for them. The Russian community in NYC is centered in Brooklyn, which overwhelmingly p
72 COEWR787 : Strictly speaking the Istanbul Metropolitan District is both Europe and Asia. As a matter of fact it is allegedly the only major metropolis that span
73 ankaraflyjet : Great news IST is added to UA network finally. Better late than never. Why continue to involve LH for Turkey US traffic. Turkey US market is mature en
74 TK787 : Hmmmm, this is going to be interesting for us NYC folks. I fly JFK-IST about 2-3 times a year and I am not sure if this new flight will do anything fo
75 STT757 : But like immigrant communities which have come before them, as soon as they gain wealth they move. Staten Island then New Jersey. It's the same move
76 Post contains images ljupco : Turkey is a wonderful country, with a luxury hotels and resorts on the seaside and very important and ancient historic places. I love Turkey. Istanbu
77 mogandoCI : I think there are many holes in UA's global network before they have spare planes to consider these 3x weekly add-ons. e.g. (entirely my personal opi
78 Post contains images leftyboarder : As much as I would love to see an airline like UA at ESB, I don't think the tight schedule with 1.5hrs in IST allows that, and anything longer will m
79 laca773 : I can see why this will go to a 2 class 763ER in August. IST does well in J. I don't believe this market really needs a P cabin when the likes of TK
80 N62NA : Probably not. It seems that nobody wants to fly to EWR - or offer their "flagship" / "top of the line" metal from EWR. (Obviously UA/CO does, but I'm
81 caljn : Why does that surprise you? (i know why, just being rhetorical) And the point of this statement is...what? At one time I lived in North NJ and wouldn
82 gigneil : Seriously? No. They're not at all planned for retirement. And they will have AVOD nose to tail, not to mention pretty much all new interiors. Of cour
83 stylo777 : With how many seats are the 763s equipped (both 2 and 3-class version)? This route will do well for UA considering the good coverage of onward connect
84 gigneil : Seat counts for the 2 class I'm unsure of. The 3 class seats 183. NS
85 Flighty : Be that as it may, that's a minority of the NYC market. Most business travelers I know treat EWR a bit like BWI. Clearly this is a wrong perception,
86 TK787 : I am sure it is different for each specific person. I just checked my flight stats, and I used; JFK=94 times LGA=39 times EWR=29 times Actually that
87 gigneil : And does that mean that, physically, you can access JFK more easily than EWR? NS
88 RyanairGuru : Ummmm SQ? Also BA and the other European legacies offer exactly the same product to EWR and JFK (if you discount the lack of LCY service and the 767)
89 lychemsa : TK offers much better serrvice than UA / CO in Y.
90 TK787 : Yes, in my case JFK/LGA is lot closer. Actually I prefer LGA most of the time for domestic flights. On another note, TK used to fly to EWR in the pas
91 STT757 : Except SQ's all Business Class nonstop to SIN. That's strange considering business traffic is a much greater percentage of EWR's traffic than JFK's.
92 fun2fly : Looks like the typical CO approach to International Expansion: Add 2-3 APAC or TATL destinations per year and keep it going every year and suddenly yo
93 TOMMY767 : Delta Business Elite is an amazing product with catering -- definitely on par with CO internationally. Domestically I think DL wins out at the this p
94 Post contains images peanuts : This is interesting. It's understandable from an alliance point of view (Star and IST). It is, however, another sign of competition between UA and DL
95 STT757 : From Penn Station you find it hard to get to EWR? 2 million Paid EWR Airtrain riders last year, according to the Port Authority, found it alright. Al
96 Post contains links RDH3E : Sold as F (confirmed on the we). Why would they not? Funny you should mention it. There was an interesting piece in the Trib this weekend about UA ca
97 TOMMY767 : JFK is a bit more seamless from Penn Station if you will.
98 STT757 : LIRR-Airtrain-Terminal NJ Transit-Airtrain-Terminal What am I missing?
99 mogandoCI : I guess the "time" component. It's 20 mins LIRR to Jamaica but 30mins to EWR Rail-link. But the monorail is a bit shorter at the EWR side so it's nea
100 CO787EWR : I believe the North River Tunnel is operated at maximum capacity so I don't think they can do anything about it. I'm pretty sure Amtrak is looking to
101 mogandoCI : Wasn't that proposal shot down from the NJ side a few months back ?
102 STT757 : That I absolutely agree with, but our Republican Governor killed the new Hudson rail tunnel that would have doubled train frequencies between NJ and
103 airzim : Anecdote of one: GS on United, I almost always use EWR. I live in Lower Manhattan. I always use a car service, never the train. If I'm taking a 6am ou
104 delta2ual : Why does every thread turn into a competition? EWR/JFK/LGA all seem to do just fine. This EWR vs. JFK/LGA is utter crap. DL has been very aggressive
105 CO787EWR : Yep, the NJ Governor shot it down. NJ-NYC needs another tunnel though badly.
106 styles9002 : Yes, indeed. It was shot down because NJ simply can't afford it. I agree another tunnel is needed but we have to start living within our means.
107 Post contains links STT757 : You don't understand, the project was paid for, $3 Billion from the PA, (paid for by toll increases) $3 Billion from the State of New Jersey (paid fo
108 STT757 : Then the Governor should have rolled back the Toll increases, of which the revenues were to fund the tunnel, instead he kept the revenues and diverte
109 TOMMY767 : While I do think we could have used that extra tunnel, the highways in NJ are in REALLY bad shape. I hope the funding really fixes them up.
110 Post contains links STT757 : I agree, the problem is that the Port Authority is not responsible for local NJ Highways. They are responsible for facilitating interstate commerce i
111 FoxBravo : I hesitate to jump into this EWR vs JFK nonsense, but that's just silly. Can we all agree that, by car (which is how most business travelers go), EWR
112 polarexpress : Back on topic, IST is a fantastic addition to connectivity (and an additional destination in its own right) for both EWR and IST, plus Star Alliance w
113 COEWR787 : The problem is more during non-rush hours when there is no dearth of capacity. But it is specially in those hours and even more so, on weekends that
114 staralliance85 : This route is long overdue. It is a great addition and TK will be a great transfer partner for UA passengers to the Middle East and Asia. I think EWR-
115 TK787 : For all those a.netters not familiar with TK's network, from its IST hub TK flies to over 190 destinations; such as; -12 in Germany -10 in Russia -7
116 STT757 : But the money is not saved, it was redirected. The money was spent anyway, and the toll increases went through. As for White Elephant, 100,000s of co
117 TOMMY767 : It's a conspiracy. Everybody knows those hikes in tolls are all going towards the costs of the new WTC anyway..
118 STT757 : NY owes NJ big time.
119 Post contains images leftyboarder : Guys, not to disrupt the discussion here, but isn't there another thread where NY vs NJ or EWR vs JFK can be discussed? This thread is for the new UA
120 RyanairGuru : In that case wouldn't this be the only F market from EWR? I thought that they would have kept it just BusinessFirst so that they're offering the same
121 Post contains links ORDBOSEWR : In this article it articulates the real challenges from a finance perspective.... http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-ne...-christie-formally-kills-arc
122 ual757 : BRU and ZRH currently offer F service as they are operated by sUA 777-200s and 767-300s, respectively.
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UA/CO To Latin America posted Wed Jan 4 2012 10:25:36 by klwright69
CO To Start EWR-PVG On March 25 posted Thu Mar 19 2009 11:14:00 by LAXDESI
CO To Start EWR-New Delhi posted Wed Apr 6 2005 13:09:22 by LatinAviation
CO To Start EWR-HAM In 2005? posted Thu Aug 26 2004 11:27:48 by Paulianer
CO To Start EWR-RNO posted Wed Jul 21 2004 16:01:57 by MAH4546
CO To Start EWR-Ponce, Puerto Rico posted Sun Jun 6 2004 02:13:23 by LatinAviation
CO To Start 2nd Daily EWR-AMS posted Fri Dec 10 2004 00:47:33 by CB777
CO To Start Service To HAM From EWR posted Sun Sep 12 2004 06:04:59 by Cory6188
CO To Start Second EWR-CDG Service posted Tue Oct 21 2003 17:18:47 by CB777
UA/CO To Latin America posted Wed Jan 4 2012 10:25:36 by klwright69