hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2226 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12999 times:
Heard possible IAH SFO and IAH ORD to get crew and mtc familiarity up to speed. However that was sometime back,,,about 3 delayed delivery announcements from Boeing...grin. However...a domestic shakedown prior to the first longhaul is pretty much assured.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10918 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12819 times:
IAH-SFO/ORD/EWR/MCO makes sense. Those are where the main maintenance bases are which is good for familiarization and also those cities can respond to any problems during entry into service. Also there is plenty of frequency and capacity on those routes to reroute passengers if there are problems.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
ual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11518 times:
I would have thought it would make sense to fly IAH to all the hubs at some point. Apart from the fact they need to have these flights for familarity tests etc, what better way than to show boat the new 787 and promote her around the system. I am still hoping that UA will have some huge 787 somewhere on her when she rolls out, similar to NH.
COEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11358 times:
Quoting UA933 (Reply 9): I was under the impression that PMCO does not exist any longer?!
True. But since employee rosters have not been merged yet, and employees of PMCO get to operate PMCO aircrafts and PMUA get to operate PMUA aircrafts, internally they still have to operationally maintain the separation.
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5386 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10921 times:
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8): Is UA going to do what NH has done, and fly the 787 on domestic routes to get used to the plane, before launching IAH-AKL? I got the impression UA was only bent on launching AKL ASAP.
I'm almost certain it will fly domestically for a few weeks first.
The U.S. launch customer, the Continental Airlines unit of United Continental Holdings Inc., plans to fly its new Dreamliners on domestic U.S. routes for six to eight weeks following expected delivery in the second half of next year, before shifting them to international destinations. Five planes out of Continental's 25-plane order—recently reduced from six—are due to arrive in 2012, three years behind schedule.
Dave Lundy, Continental's 787 fleet captain, said the airline will initially fly domestic routes from its hubs in Houston and Newark to familiarize flight and ground staff with the plane, as well as between 50 and 100 hours of nonrevenue international flights.
Continental will train between 22 and 24 pilots for each plane. The new aircraft are due to arrive at the rate of one every six or seven weeks next year, though some flight crews have already gone through a course provided by Boeing.
The airline has to date only announced two potential 787 routes: a 7,400-mile trek from Houston to Auckland, New Zealand, and a shorter hop to Lagos, Nigeria, that it already flies with a larger Boeing 777. The plane will also likely be used on other routes with heavy business traffic, such as Newark to London Heathrow.
klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2409 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10223 times:
This is really anyone's guess...
I remember when CO took delivery of the 777 for example. The 777 was being rotated throughout the entire route system. It even made a stop in DEN (where I was living at the time), even though it was not a normal CO widebody station.
We can speculate all we want about the usual suspects, EWR-IAH for example. But these birds can visit at just about any city in the network that can handle it.
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9994 times:
No worries A-Nutters, you'll likely see the 787 rotating though the system flying between hubs and perhaps making cameo appearances on such routes as SAN to IAH or EWR, SEA to IAH etc. Given the small number of a/c they'll receive initially, I'd expect the only international route they'll fly towards the end of 2012 is IAH to AKL and likely that won't happen until they receive at least three a/c and crews are familiarized.
staralliance85 From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9384 times:
I don't think it would be smart for UA to under utilize the 787 for domestic routes. They will use it for IAH to AKL and LOS. I hope they also use it for EWR-JNB, EWR-TPE, SFO-BKK, SFO-SIN and many others.
: Im sure we'll see the 787 on any route the 762, 764 and 772 is currently on at some point in the future.
: This was discussed less than a week ago; first domestic routes will be EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX. The777Man
: Just did the IAH -LOS run on the tripple 7. Plane was only half full both ways. 787 will be perfect for this route until yeilds imrove.
: When is United supposed to get their first 787??? It looks like its about to roll out.
: When are first deliveries to UA/CO expected? I'm planning a trip to IAH in the fall. One possible routing is BCN-FRA-IAH with an A380 on FRA-IAH. Anot
: Things should pick back up when the rioting and instability settle down. Political instability has a way of slowing down businessmen.
: I suspect that there will not be any domestic runs in the short term. There may be enough time to make a positioning flight but with the few early del
: There will definitely be domestic runs at the outset for familiarization as stated by the CO chief 787 pilot per STT's post. Now if you mean after al
: My guess is a fair amount of HOU-SFO. It's the perfect stage length for this kind of "training service." It's about 2.5 hours. And I will be on one of
: But before it enters ANY revenue service, where will it go upon delivery?
: When will we see a 787 in full UA colors and what the lastest planned delivery date?