tpaewr From United States of America, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10114 times:
Since it is a CO 787, and will be flown by PMCO crew, *if* the past was any guide EWR-MCO or IAH-LAX would be good bets. But now-a-days it could be IAH-ORD just the same
hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2118 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10102 times:
Heard possible IAH SFO and IAH ORD to get crew and mtc familiarity up to speed. However that was sometime back,,,about 3 delayed delivery announcements from Boeing...grin. However...a domestic shakedown prior to the first longhaul is pretty much assured.
fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93 Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10069 times:
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8737 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9922 times:
IAH-SFO/ORD/EWR/MCO makes sense. Those are where the main maintenance bases are which is good for familiarization and also those cities can respond to any problems during entry into service. Also there is plenty of frequency and capacity on those routes to reroute passengers if there are problems.
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dia77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 700 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9500 times:
Would be nice to see this bird in DEN. Unfortunately UA widebodies aren't as common in DEN like they used to be. Sigh...
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2158 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8742 times:
Is UA going to do what NH has done, and fly the 787 on domestic routes to get used to the plane, before launching IAH-AKL? I got the impression UA was only bent on launching AKL ASAP.
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UA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8709 times:
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1): Since it is a CO 787, and will be flown by PMCO crew, *if* the past was any guide EWR-MCO or IAH-LAX would be good bets. But now-a-days it could be IAH-ORD just the same
I was under the impression that PMCO does not exist any longer?!
ual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3355 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8621 times:
I would have thought it would make sense to fly IAH to all the hubs at some point. Apart from the fact they need to have these flights for familarity tests etc, what better way than to show boat the new 787 and promote her around the system. I am still hoping that UA will have some huge 787 somewhere on her when she rolls out, similar to NH.
COEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 305 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8461 times:
Quoting UA933 (Reply 9): I was under the impression that PMCO does not exist any longer?!
True. But since employee rosters have not been merged yet, and employees of PMCO get to operate PMCO aircrafts and PMUA get to operate PMUA aircrafts, internally they still have to operationally maintain the separation.
jetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 409 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8434 times:
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4905 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8024 times:
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8): Is UA going to do what NH has done, and fly the 787 on domestic routes to get used to the plane, before launching IAH-AKL? I got the impression UA was only bent on launching AKL ASAP.
I'm almost certain it will fly domestically for a few weeks first.
TOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7984 times:
Sulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 500 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7524 times:
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7501 times:
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 13): I'm almost certain it will fly domestically for a few weeks first.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7445 times:
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The U.S. launch customer, the Continental Airlines unit of United Continental Holdings Inc., plans to fly its new Dreamliners on domestic U.S. routes for six to eight weeks following expected delivery in the second half of next year, before shifting them to international destinations. Five planes out of Continental's 25-plane order—recently reduced from six—are due to arrive in 2012, three years behind schedule.
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Dave Lundy, Continental's 787 fleet captain, said the airline will initially fly domestic routes from its hubs in Houston and Newark to familiarize flight and ground staff with the plane, as well as between 50 and 100 hours of nonrevenue international flights.
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Continental will train between 22 and 24 pilots for each plane. The new aircraft are due to arrive at the rate of one every six or seven weeks next year, though some flight crews have already gone through a course provided by Boeing.
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The airline has to date only announced two potential 787 routes: a 7,400-mile trek from Houston to Auckland, New Zealand, and a shorter hop to Lagos, Nigeria, that it already flies with a larger Boeing 777. The plane will also likely be used on other routes with heavy business traffic, such as Newark to London Heathrow.
klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1786 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7326 times:
This is really anyone's guess...
I remember when CO took delivery of the 777 for example. The 777 was being rotated throughout the entire route system. It even made a stop in DEN (where I was living at the time), even though it was not a normal CO widebody station.
We can speculate all we want about the usual suspects, EWR-IAH for example. But these birds can visit at just about any city in the network that can handle it.
SEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 214 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7326 times:
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3640 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7240 times:
TOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7200 times:
On second thought I could definitely see the 787 making na appearance on DEN-ORD, considering it still sees a 777.
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SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7097 times:
No worries A-Nutters, you'll likely see the 787 rotating though the system flying between hubs and perhaps making cameo appearances on such routes as SAN to IAH or EWR, SEA to IAH etc. Given the small number of a/c they'll receive initially, I'd expect the only international route they'll fly towards the end of 2012 is IAH to AKL and likely that won't happen until they receive at least three a/c and crews are familiarized.
fun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 839 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6999 times:
Any update on the delivery dates? The article is a bit dated.
I'm sure UA would like to run the AKL route for the S. Hemisphere summer season. Wonder if they will go less than daily or just continue to delay the route.
If the run the 788 on AKL and LOS, doesn't that take all 5 planes and effectively domicile them at IAH? Not love for the other hubs until 2013 then.
staralliance85 From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6487 times:
I don't think it would be smart for UA to under utilize the 787 for domestic routes. They will use it for IAH to AKL and LOS. I hope they also use it for EWR-JNB, EWR-TPE, SFO-BKK, SFO-SIN and many others.
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25 cipango: Im sure we'll see the 787 on any route the 762, 764 and 772 is currently on at some point in the future.
26 The777Man: This was discussed less than a week ago; first domestic routes will be EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX. The777Man
27 Africawings: Just did the IAH -LOS run on the tripple 7. Plane was only half full both ways. 787 will be perfect for this route until yeilds imrove.
28 bkircher: When is United supposed to get their first 787??? It looks like its about to roll out.
29 UALWN: When are first deliveries to UA/CO expected? I'm planning a trip to IAH in the fall. One possible routing is BCN-FRA-IAH with an A380 on FRA-IAH. Anot
30 kgaiflyer: Things should pick back up when the rioting and instability settle down. Political instability has a way of slowing down businessmen.
31 AADC10: I suspect that there will not be any domestic runs in the short term. There may be enough time to make a positioning flight but with the few early del
32 drerx7: There will definitely be domestic runs at the outset for familiarization as stated by the CO chief 787 pilot per STT's post. Now if you mean after al
33 DocLightning: My guess is a fair amount of HOU-SFO. It's the perfect stage length for this kind of "training service." It's about 2.5 hours. And I will be on one of
34 727LOVER: But before it enters ANY revenue service, where will it go upon delivery?
35 UA933: When will we see a 787 in full UA colors and what the lastest planned delivery date?
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