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One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14993 times:

Greetings to all A.net patrons!!!

Welcome to the 95th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread. The island to which this thread is dedicated is the hub for a tiny, but efficient airline known as Tiara Air. Therefore, that makes the fun and sun island no other than ARUBA!




Aruba is a 33 km-long island of the Lesser Antilles in the southern Caribbean Sea, located 27 km north of the coast of Venezuela and approximately 130 km east of the Guajira Peninsula (Colombia). Together with Bonaire and Curaçao, it forms a group referred to as the ABC islands of the Leeward Antilles, the southern island chain of the Lesser Antilles.

Aruba enjoys one of the highest standards of living in the Caribbean region including a low unemployment rate. About three quarters of the Aruban gross national product is earned through tourism or related activities. Most tourists are from Venezuela and the United States. Unlike much of the Caribbean region, Aruba has a dry climate and an arid, cactus-strewn landscape. This climate has helped tourism as visitors to the island can reliably expect warm, sunny weather.



Palm Beach Aruba!

HISTORY

Aruba's path to the present day is marked by the mystery of ochre-colored rock drawings left behind by island shamans, the enterprising spirit of European adventurers and settlers and the diverse experiences and traditions brought by the many nationalities that have since sought out the island as either a new home or temporary resting place. The look of the people, the languages they speak and the innate hospitality that manifests itself in the Aruban psyche is the result of a multi-cultural mix that reflects a rich past.

The Caquetio Indians of the Arawak tribe from the South American mainland were Aruba's first inhabitants. During the Pre-ceramic Period of habitation (2500 BC – 1000 AD), they were fishers-hunters-gatherers who depended on the sea for survival and used tools of roughly flaked stones and shell. They lived in small family groups and fished along Aruba’s coast at locations now named Malmok and Palm Beach.

When Spanish explorer Alonso de Ojeda discovered Aruba in 1499 and claimed it for the Spanish throne, he named it la isla de los gigantes (Spanish: the island of giants), the tall Indians descended from Aruba’s very first settlers. After a decade, Aruba’s moniker was changed to isla inutíl, a useless island, as no gold or treasures were found.

Aruba’s strategic location was recognized by the Dutch who initially occupied the island in 1636 to protect their salt supply from the mainland and establish a naval base in the Caribbean during their 80-year war with Spain. Further economic development continued through the Dutch West India Company located on the neighboring island of Curaçao. Aruba remained in Dutch hands, except for a brief hiatus under English rule from 1805-1816, during the Napoleonic Wars.

(Courtesy Aruba's Official Tourism website)



QUICK ISLAND FACTS

Capital: Oranjestad
Airport: Queen Beatrix International Airport (AUA)
Population: 104-106,000
Majot Industries: Tourism, Petroleum, Mining



Tiara Air's newly leased B733 (P4-TIC) arrives in AUA. Second B733 expected to arrive in May. Airline plans to operate routes into Colombia, Venezuela and South Florida with their jet equipment.

******NEWS FEED******

St. Lucia and Dominica to invest in LI
CUR and SXM downgraded to Category 2 by FAA.
CAL drops its 4x weekly KIN-MIA-KIN flight
Air Caraibes to begin SDQ-ORY service with A333 on March 25
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70/100
KX will begin service to both PTY and DFW
Sunquest to operate 2x weekly YHZ-NAS with 217-seat B752
CAL leases AtlasAir B744 to operate during Carnival season
LI returns 3 aircraft (2 DHC8-100s, 1 DHC8-300) as part of "refleeting process"
CAL inaugurates daily POS-SLU service with DHC8
CAL to get first ex LAN B763 in April
Dispute between Grenada and Taiwan may result in airport closure
Redjet accuses CAL of deceptive advertising
Tiara Air takes delivery of first B733
Redjet to begin 2x weekly service to SXM.
DAE announces on FB page an array of new routes planned for 2012

Happy Posting!




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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14972 times:

Unusual maneuvers at SXM:

The MD-82 looks positioned beyond the threshold of the runway:





The Twin Otter is even showing the door opened before takeoff:


Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently onlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14954 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):
The MD-82 looks positioned beyond the threshold of the runway:

they want to give the beachgoers and extra special blast



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14882 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Unlike much of the Caribbean region, Aruba has a dry climate and an arid, cactus-strewn landscape. This climate has helped tourism as visitors to the island can reliably expect warm, sunny weather.

And if tourist happen to be on the island when it rains, don't complain with the locals, as they probably will have quite an smile on their face. Every drop of water that pours down on Aruba is a well received blessing.

Quote:
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70/100

Air Panama has 2 F70, no F100.

Quote:
KX will begin service to both PTY and DFW

When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14786 times:

Someone asked if the GOL flight to BGI is still operating it is a Saturday only flight operated with the 737

User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9208 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14774 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
ARUBA!

LOVE IT!

Why couldn't you have provided a pic of the Marriott Surf Club?!! lol My wife and I were there for our honeymoon. Flew AA on PHL-MIA-AUA.

What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.



Do not bring stranger girt into your room. The stranger girt is dangerous, it will hurt your life.
User currently offlinedivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14754 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?

KX use to fly IAH, then when CO came into the route, they dropped it for CO and codeshared for a bit, and then KX dropped the codeshare (which seems to be the norm now for KX, I dont think they have really any Codeshares...... shame!)

with the recent drop of frequency on the IAH route by CO (last year it was nearly daily, now seems to be weekends only now) I would think that they dont want to restart the route up to steal some PAX from CO, but rather try another Texas city which again has a big US airline at!
I know AA dont like to try new routes unless they are pretty confident they will succeed, but this to me is a route that AA should do to GCM. They have the opportunity for connecting PAX from the Central/West and even Canada for GCM. KX is only interested in O+D it seems which to me is a fail. KX has the pickings atm with AA in the state its in tho!

The route to Panama again will be a good addition, but I want to see it from CM! KX will have again the opportunity to make money on this route, but they need to CODESHARE! Help out others travelling onwards and not just the O+D traffic!
Now if Air Panama fly it on the F70, its a great little aircraft to start the operation on! Not too big and still a jet! Be nice to see more variety here in GCM!


Anyone got any shots of the B744 in POS for carnival? Wish i could of been there this year but was on training in MIA. Maybe 2013 I hit up T&T for Carnival!



My dream, is to fly, over the rainbow, so high!
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14750 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70


With that being said, it seems that the [Panama City - Grand Cayman] segment wouldn't be operated by CM mainline.
Related to Panama City, perhaps that flight would leave from PAC instead.




.

Quoting baje427 (Reply 4):
Someone asked if the GOL flight to BGI is still operating it is a Saturday only flight operated with the 737


I did the question in the old thread.
So the 763 is no longer in service into [GRU-BGI].

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14709 times:

Thanks BW424 for the new forum once again.

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 6):
Anyone got any shots of the B744 in POS for carnival? Wish i could of been there this year but was on training in MIA. Maybe 2013 I hit up T&T for Carnival!
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426991_10150589391230233_551385232_9430889_1043677084_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420432_10150586004985233_551385232_9417846_2061428050_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/425782_10150586003445233_551385232_9417845_136856843_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/421807_2701830341530_1129840145_31939879_1376518003_n.jpghttp://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/428126_10150794084901038_723866037_12422622_2097815677_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/397137_10150794071101038_723866037_12422605_666612013_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/419120_2635413681155_1129840145_31917034_1158997614_n.jpg

The two 767 destine for CAL
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/403369_2641251467096_1129840145_31919355_834442856_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/422210_2641154544673_1129840145_31919276_606511496_n.jpg



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14646 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
Air Panama has 2 F70, no F100.

Appreciate the correction....if only I could make the correction in the thread header.....

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):

Well, those "unusual" maneuvers referred to are quickly becoming or already are usual occurrences.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
LOVE IT!

Why couldn't you have provided a pic of the Marriott Surf Club?!! lol My wife and I were there for our honeymoon. Flew AA on PHL-MIA-AUA.

Well to be honest........time constraints prevented me from providing more info on the island. I normally include a couple more shots and info in thread headers. Sorry about that.

BTW, Happy 6th A.net birthday!

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

Well, from what i know, they're looking further up the east coast in the JFK/BOS area. But that will most likely be in the 4-6yrs from now if things are still rosy with them.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently onlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 14523 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?

KXs has a policy (As a gov't entity) of starting routes that the gov't would like to see other airlines pick up, then hand them over to other carriers once the route is established. Think of it as the gov'ts version of a rev guarantee or a way to prove to the AA, CO, CMs of the world that the route can work.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently onlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 14513 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Topic Air of Belize to start BZE-LCE 2x weekly starting March 4
Isn't Tropic Air into BZE-SAP 3x weekly which is due to start on March 12th?


They had to rejuggle the startup sequence and will actually start BZE-SAP with RTB and LCE to follow by the end of the year.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 14509 times:

Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.

User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2094 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13564 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
And if tourist happen to be on the island when it rains, don't complain with the locals, as they probably will have quite an smile on their face. Every drop of water that pours down on Aruba is a well received blessing.

Last winter was one of the wettest in a long time. Water was ankle deep in front of the Renaissance and in front of the hotels at Palm Beach.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

I would think that NY, NJ and New England have to be high on the list. You hear a lot of those accents on the beaches and in the restaurants.


User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13066 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 13):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

I know the Venezuela-ABC's market is saturated, so I hope they have south american on their plans! ;D


User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13038 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
So the 763 is no longer in service into [GRU-BGI].

Correct, the 767 has been gone for almost a year. 738's all the way since April 2011.


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13008 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.

It was mentioned internally, not sure if an engine change will take place for both to be GE.

"A Condor Boeing 767-300, registration D-ABUE performing flight DE-5123 from Bridgetown (Barbados) to Frankfurt/Main (Germany), was enroute about 45 minutes into the flight when the crew descended the aircraft and returned to Bridgetown for a safe landing."
http://avherald.com/h?article=44b7784b&opt=0

Caribbean tourism up slightly in '11 despite economic crisis
"The Caribbean Tourism Organization says 23.8 million tourists visited the region in 2011, a 3.3 per cent increase from 2010. Statistician Sean Smith said the number of arrivals rose every month except May and October"
http://news.yahoo.com/report-caribbe...ite-economic-crisis-180122874.html

Grenadian PM Criticizes Problems at Intl Airport
St. Georges, Feb 20 (Prensa Latina) The financial problems currently threatening the closure of the Maurice Bishop international airport in this capital could have been avoided, according to Grenadian Prime Minister Tillman Thomas.
http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?o...ntent&task=view&id=479896&Itemid=1



All ah we is one family
User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2094 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12958 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
I know the Venezuela-ABC's market is saturated, so I hope they have south american on their plans! ;D

From what I understand the economy down where you are is doing well. If so, I would expect some flights to offset the prime seasons for North American tourism.


User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12910 times:

Here are some more aviation videos from my last trip to Trinidad and Tobago

TAB HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Landing Crown Point Tobago Avions de Transport Régional
http://youtu.be/bteP8-IJZLQ?hd=1


HD POS Continental & Copa Airlines Operations at Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trinidad
http://youtu.be/aGwoIPyev_8?hd=1


POS HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Landing Port of Spain Trinidad Avions de Transport
http://youtu.be/nPBxk2iemW8?hd=1


HD Inside 737-700 Copa Airlines First Class Clase Ejecutiva & Coach Economy Cabin Boeing Port of Spain
http://youtu.be/CKW8jks4J_4?hd=1


HD POS Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trindidad Carvinal Decrations 2012 & Operations
http://youtu.be/eP2HKp8OSjM?hd=1


TAB HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Take-Off Crown Point Tobago Avions de Transport Régional
http://youtu.be/Qdh7T8kX29c?hd=1



Worked Hard. Flew Right. Farewell, Continental. Thanks for the memories.
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12875 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.

Yes, it has been somewhat confirmed. As for the engine choices, I really am not privy to any details as to why it turned out that way. Also seems sort of inefficient to me to have such a small sub-fleet with two different engine installations.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12851 times:

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 18):
HD POS Continental & Copa Airlines Operations at Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trinidad

CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12837 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):
CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?

Nope. Their flights are always full or near full as they've captured a substantial amount of the market going to South America. They come in the early afternoon and leave in the late afternoon.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12804 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):

When I flew POS-PTY with CM the flight was 70% full.  
Quoting silentbob (Reply 17):
From what I understand the economy down where you are is doing well. If so, I would expect some flights to offset the prime seasons for North American tourism.

Yes but there's not too much options! and fair prices either!


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12811 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 21):
Their flights are always full or near full as they've captured a substantial amount of the market going to South America.

Sure is the airline of choice for POS-Mexico and POS-HAV now too.
How is it with POS-LAX traffic?
Sure it's small numbers but POS-LAX via PTY may be more convenient/comfortable than via MIA or IAH.
Sadly PTY-LAS-PTY wont' make immediate connections to/from POS at PTY.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12780 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):
CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?

That was a fairly empty flight. There was only 4 of us in all of First Class. There was one person in 1A and 1B and 1F. I was in 2A and all other seats empty. Coach wasn't full either. The thing I like was I guess Copa served meal order by status, because the F/A asked me before anyone in row 1. The he went to the guy in 1F and the couple in 1A and B.



Worked Hard. Flew Right. Farewell, Continental. Thanks for the memories.
25 vfw614 : Passing through ANU on a late afternoon Friday recently, I was wondering if the chaos I experienced is the norm? The terminal airside was very very cr
26 817Dreamliiner : It pretty much is the norm, if I had the choice to transit through anywhere else I would, but unfortunately for me to get back to MNI, I would have n
27 vfw614 : Interesting. While some of the problems are obviously related to the inadequate terminal itself, others could be rectified with little cost, e.g. inst
28 817Dreamliiner : true, I really think that would help alot, in terms of the terminal, I remember seeing some plans for a new terminal at ANU to replace the current on
29 guyanam : How can ANU be so bad when it is a major hub for LIAT which might have as many as 5 planes leaving at the same time?
30 wadadli : Yes it is very confusing now since they moved the boarding "gates" to a different area.. It was never a problem before but now there is a large gift
31 817Dreamliiner : Well thats good news, the current terminal is pretty dated in my opinion, and yes the artist impressions were impressive from what I remember seeing
32 Post contains images steeler83 : Hahaha! It's all good. Oh don't I know that! I was trying to pick up our car rental down there and some pompous jerk (I guess from New York) but righ
33 Post contains images andrefranca : When I was there I was arriving from SKB, the flight took 15 minutes! and to clear the immigration it took me more than 1 HOUR! cause there was a VS
34 Post contains links BW985 : http://www.trinidadexpress.com/busin..._to_Grenada_airport-140253673.html It's interesting how Trinidadian newspapers love to report about every tinie
35 trintocan : Yes that BA flight got cancelled on Saturday, I saw it on the popular website, The BA Source (www.thebasource.com). It appears that this was a techni
36 BWIA 772 : I was thinking it would be awesome if BW did a special livery or a sticker to celebrate Jamaica and The Republic of Trinidad and Tobago reaching 50 ye
37 windian425 : REDjet has finally launched its SXM service... Flights operate non-stop from BGI every Tuesday and Saturday starting 19th May, 2012. Flights will allo
38 817Dreamliiner : Is this right? arrive at 8:15 AM and leave at 8:15PM? would this be with more than 1 flight on the days noted? If not, thats highly inefficient if yo
39 A388 : I don't understand why this is brought up again as it was mentioned in the previous thead already!!! I also mentioned the two additional loading brid
40 baje427 : I think the aircraft continues on to KIN and then returns to SXM
41 baje427 : Is there any word on the other routes RD will start since Ian Burns mentioned that the route cuts made were in an effort to launch new routes.
42 817Dreamliiner : Well, their route map doesn't show this continuation to KIN, but I guess it will be added later if at all
43 2travel2know2 : With that amount of time, the aircraft could fly SXM-KIN-NAS or SXM-KIN-HAV (!) or SXM-KIN-BZE (!!) and back.
44 817Dreamliiner : Exactly, and they dont show any continuation on their route map the last time I checked. If this is the case, then they should at least put it on the
45 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : I see BW610 stopped in ANU today. Strong headwinds to YYZ? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20120229/1519Z/TAPA/CYYZ
46 Post contains images andrefranca : We've being talking about that too.... I posted on last thread the route map of DAE with their new routes for 2012! Finally MAO-CUR direct! Very very
47 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Well, the only thing I could give them credit for is advertising a full day in SXM for shopping, etc, other than that, it would be hard to believe th
48 windian425 : This is no longer under consideration, at least for the time being.
49 guyanam : Redjet will keep a plane unused all day and then blame CAL/LIAT when their lossses mount. They didnt think thru their marketing and have themselve so
50 beeweel15 : Well what if they did a BGI-SXM-KIN-BGI-POS/GEO-BGI-KIN-SXM-BGI with the aircraft I doubt it would leave much time for the aircraft to sit around doi
51 Post contains links BW424 : Very interesting. I'd love to know why they stopped. No offense was intended. Please, it's not that serious. All that was done was a newsfeed report
52 Post contains images BWIA 772 : BW released its London Launch poster... very nice IMHO Regards BWIA 772
53 baje427 : Nice ad they could have made the hummingbird a bit more realistic on another note can someone confirm that indeed the RD aircraft will sit in SXM for
54 guyanam : I was wondering when they were going to start promoting their LGW route. After all it will soon be April and they need to build up critical mass if t
55 Post contains links and images PITrules : Here's some pics of the ongoing Alitalia charters to SXM, taken Sun Feb 26.
56 BW424 : I was wondering what Alitalia was doing in SXM. Must be great for the local enthusiasts since they don't get scheduled 777 service. Appreciate the sh
57 beeweel15 : Come on CAL time to step to the 777 LOL. Alitalia could have been bringing some pax to meet a cruise also
58 jmbweeboy : So little is ever mentioned here re: air travel to/from Port Au Prince Haiti but for once there is big news! Delta will commence a once weekly (Saturd
59 andrefranca : Well flights to/from PAP are feeded by the diaspora and military personnel... I also hope in the future more flights will be added to PAP and Cap Hai
60 Post contains images westindian425 : You mean United?
61 A388 : Strange that they will use the A320 and not the 737? DL normally only uses the A320's within the U.S. with exception of Puerto Rico which by the way
62 817Dreamliiner : Dont they operate A320s to MBJ? I remember seeing 1 there couple years ago
63 LimaFoxTango : The A320's came to ANU briefly as well sometime back. Not sure if it was the ATL or JFK flights.
64 2travel2know2 : And DL ATL-KIN service did show stellar performance and the Jamaican Diaspora seems to be larger than Haïtian one. Once per week ATL-PAP is a shy tr
65 westindian425 : Well the old Northwest guys should get to have some Caribbean fun, too! lol... I think, even if it's a trial, the 320 is a good idea simply because o
66 817Dreamliiner : Really? Didnt know this, do you remember when they did this?
67 airjamaica : DL operate the A320 on their DTW-MBJ services quite frequently. Not certain about ATL-MBJ though. Usually that route is done with the B738/B752/B767/
68 A388 : That is true, they should also have some fun in the sun. Some members here claim the 738 has a better cargo performance compared to the A320 so I'm n
69 jmbweeboy : Definetly A320 for ATL-PAP. Only other A320 service into PAP is Air France from Miami and the French territories. Perhaps DL uses same ground handlin
70 airjamaica : No problem. Yes the equipment DL use to Jamaica varies alot. They also use the A320's on MSP-MBJ and MEM-MBJ at times as well. As for KIN, I have see
71 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : For those interested in Guyanese aviation, EZJet reports on their Facebook page that they transported 4,358 pax in Jan, and 7,502 in Feb. They were fl
72 caribbean484 : Thanks I just read the article US$3m lose in 2 months? I am not sure why people like these always start an airline, it was reported that they had som
73 LimaFoxTango : Right now, I honestly cannot remember. It's probably nearly 2 years ago now, somewhere 'round the DL/NW merger. From the little I hear, that might no
74 Post contains links caribbean484 : From what I heard a little while ago that is the case, but I cannot verify it, there was also talk about pilots being asked to contribute in their tr
75 BW424 : Yes, there were Constellation and Travelspan. They both were popular for a short while before the 22 hr delays that started to occur on a regular bas
76 baje427 : Perhaps the routes from Jamaica are not profitable given the reductions and the cancellation of MIA again do you guys think BW will eventually just se
77 2travel2know2 : BW out of MBJ you mean? FLL and JFK for Jamaica O/D. no YYZ from MBJ. If talking about leisure-traffic to MBJ, my guess is that'll depend if no other
78 AA1818 : BW currently flies that route and the figures were published in the Newspapers- less than 50% LF, somewhere between 45 and 55 PED. I assume they also
79 2travel2know2 : Has BW ever studied a GEO-TAB-JFK? But pretty sure any TAB-GEO-TAB traffic might be very low. Totally agree. BW needs to focus on routes out of KIN (
80 guyanam : The Jamaicans warned that BW wouldnt be popular with them. BW bombed last summer with numerous delays and poor ground service. Now BW has stopped mar
81 2travel2know2 : Or rather said, will go back to that POS-BGI-KIN BWIA original route? BW should have visualized that the daily schedule demand between KIN and FLL is
82 caribbean484 : You talk as if you have the data in front of you to me such assertion based one person's letter. I do work for the Broward county aviation council an
83 caribbean484 : That is expected as this was known and nothing has really changed since the last time, the flight is full only because of POS, unlike GND where the f
84 andrefranca : POS-BGI-SXM-KIN you mean? that was the caribbean kangorou from hell route! :/ good question, Cubana = not trustful, aerogaviota = the same, haitian a
85 BW424 : CAL should not market itself as the "little piece of Jamaica that flies". CAL is jointly owned by POS and KIN, obviously with POS still holding the l
86 guyanam : The routes might have some slight demand, but not enough for 737 aircraft. The ATRs yes. But if the KIN hub is downsized why will they do this? At th
87 817Dreamliiner : To be honest you cant speak for every Jamaican on this planet, just because some say what you have stated doesnt mean this is the whole opinion of th
88 jmbweeboy : Words of Wisdom! Jmbweeboy
89 BW424 : Exactly my point Dreamliner. It's amazing how you post with such authority as if you really know what you're talking about. And to have the nerve to
90 windian425 : BW should be operating GEO-BGI-JFK long time ago..
91 baje427 : Have CAL received anymore ATR's and when is the first Q300 scheduled to leave the fleet?. I always thought CAL would have a tough go at it in Jamaica
92 time2lyme : One thing that continues to amaze me, not only here but on lots of threads on a.net, is the staunch patriotism and loyalty to certain airlines. Appare
93 Avianca : just had several flights with BW and have to say its a good service they are providng, specially on the new ATR72! Cheers Avianca
94 A388 : Words of Wisdom indeed. I agree with 817Dreamliiner as well. I say give Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica a few years of operation in Jamaica before mak
95 caribbean484 : With the Government calling for austerity measures in Jamaica. it really does not bode well at the end of the day for everyone else in the region. Ga
96 LimaFoxTango : Is it that BA and AC couldn't compete or there was just no market for two airlines? Or perhaps the Trini population rather take their own airline rat
97 baje427 : BW left all of their BGI- North America routes because they were unprofitable no need to return given all the routes they operated other than MIA are
98 A388 : I think you are right. It isn't that BA or AC couldn't compete with Caribbean Airlines (I mean let's get serious, these are big airlines). It's a mat
99 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Airline job cuts Janet Silvera, Senior Gleaner Writer WESTERN BUREAU:At least 150 Caribbean Airlines employees are to be sent home as of April 30, 45
100 guyanam : CAL loads are down to Jamaica. This despite significant reduction in capacity. Look at the monthly data, they consistently under perform the other ca
101 2travel2know2 : Make it CCS-POS-LGW (must be same aircraft, no change of plane whatsoever) and see how CCS will support BW LON flight. Routing BW POS-LGW via CCS, lo
102 A388 : Do you have those numbers for us to analyze? Do you have prove that the decline in load factor is actually caused by Jamaicans not chosing Caribbean
103 caribbean484 : You should try to post with statistics JFK-KIN-JFK July/August B6 KIN 8397 9150 91.7% MBJ 13368 14550 91.8% KIN 8134 8700 93.4% MBJ 12547 13350 93.98
104 817Dreamliiner : A388 asks a really good question here, ok guyanam, if you do indeed have this data to support your claims please do present it. And to add to A388's
105 Post contains images A388 : Yes, that is also a valid point kind of linked to where I want to go. We need to know the (exact) mix of the passengers nationalities flying Caribbea
106 GUYAIR707 : Based on what I am seeing, CAL's fares JFK-GEO are not much lower, but the 526/527 is lower, to compete with EZJet. I also notice that 526/527 is run
107 yellowtail : The last time KIN-BZE was flown by an established carrier was TA in the 60s (maybe 50s). You may be thinking of MBJ - BZE....but no one in BZE goes t
108 trintocan : True. Also, remember that when Caribbean Airlines were founded they did away with the Caribbean-wide focus which old BW were well-known for and inste
109 jmbweeboy : More words of wisdom! Right on! JmBweeboy
110 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : I am not sure if this was posted but it doesn't seem a done deal. With Liat's woes, not sure when. Surinam Airways could probably do a PBM-PAP-AMS if
111 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Hey Guys 9Y-TTD currently F-WWLS is in Canada doing some demo flights for WestJet
112 Post contains images BW424 : And there lies the issue. CAL management team and leadership leaves much to be desired compared to what it once was. Anyone with an ounce of business
113 A388 : Entirely true, that's linked to what I said that we are experiencing an economic crisis which can cause air travel to decrease or slow down and of co
114 2travel2know2 : I had old TA schedules from the 70's and by that time they flew BZE-MBJ (well it was shown on their route map like that). One of those TA Regional co
115 baje427 : I've always wondered when aircraft like CAL's ATR do promotions for other airlines do they get a discount on the aircraft how does the process work?
116 A388 : Yes, usually some form of compensation is involved as the aircraft is used by the manufacturer and not the airline itself. One must also not forget t
117 Post contains images speedbird2263 : May just be me but when you used to see/or see Air Jamaica's livery in a cold snowy backdrop it gave/gives a sense of that island/Caribbean warmth....
118 Post contains links guyanam : http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/ja...-snubbing-air-jamaica-dennis-lalor This was posted here a mere few weeks ago. I suggest you take up your debate
119 A388 : I think the new colors used now also give the same island/Caribbean warmth feeling as it is still very colorful. I really don't see the difference he
120 guyanam : Livery is unimportant except to plane watchers. People board directly and so never see what the plane looks like.
121 A388 : Airline liveries are important as that gives the emotional attachment the traveler has. Why do think BA had to abandon their World Images liveries on
122 guyanam : And when do passengers actually see the plane's livery? Just about every airport served by Air Ja now has boarding gates. In the scheme of reasons wh
123 A388 : When do passengers actually see the livery? Let me think, hmmm, their tickets, the airline's website, check-in counters, baggage tags, they all refle
124 817Dreamliiner : Apparently you've never been to KIN, the jetways have windows all the way to the point you enter the aircraft, so therefore they can see the livery o
125 guyanam : BWIA had one of the best logos and liveries yet many refused to use them. Too much drama of the negative kind, especially in its last days. Maybe lon
126 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Very happy to see 9Y-ANU back in service. It was down for quite a while. Does anyone know, or care to say if TJR and TJS are still with BW? Are there
127 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Just read this Newsday article on BW. There seems to be a misprint or ignorance of a/c (767ER-200). As far as I know the a/c will be 763. Apparently t
128 caribbean484 : ANU had an engine switch with SLU, which is why she was down for a much longer time, SLU is now C-Checks for 30 days. TJS and TJR are still here and
129 GUYAIR707 : Thanks for the response. GUYAIR707
130 westindian425 : The whole "Air Jamaica is gone and Jamaicans will kick out BW" tirade continues, huh? LOL!! Nice to hear of B6 increasing service to UVF to daily duri
131 caribbean484 : Honestly the older I am getting the less I want to have these stupid and petty debates, let history and time determine the failure or success of the
132 GUYAIR707 : I got it! (LOL) How come Tobago is not marketed to the US? Seems like a wonderful destination. Since T&T has the resources how come tourism isn't
133 2travel2know2 : Need to go that far to compare what lots of people would like to see BW turned into? When there is an airline based 1234mi west of POS doing a simila
134 westindian425 : IAH does have a better connection to the entire operation. Perhaps they can utilize that, and make EWR seasonal (ala POS). Now, if BW were to join St
135 LimaFoxTango : The ILS has been on test since about December last year. Works like a charm. Still awaiting Jepp Charts to be published however. The ILS-DME works up
136 GUYAIR707 : Sacrilege, my apologies. Any idea when they will start GEO? That is great news, finally the GOG has done this. There was a complaint that there was s
137 2travel2know2 : Ask Belize-an Yellowtail, he doesn't know but knows how one should approach CM and start talks with them. Be sure that any time I can, I push for GEO
138 Post contains images andrefranca : TAB still smells like fresh for me, I really had a good time there! CAL flights both on inbound and outbound are often late! the airport is sooo small
139 817Dreamliiner : The livery comment was in reply to the comment you made about people not being able to see the planes theyre going on. Anyway from the article you po
140 A388 : As 817Dreamliiner said, you have your opinion and I have mine. However, you should not act as if your opinion is the only valid opinion. Again, let's
141 A388 : I agree with you completely and I usually also do that. They are indeed stupid, baseless and petty debates. Let's leave it to the time. A388
142 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Just came across this article from a few weeks ago. Granted there are a few inaccuracies in the article, however the overall point is that the route i
143 GUYAIR707 : Emphasises my point that BW's chasing RD and EZJet is a dangerous game. Losses of 3 million TT$ ($500,000 USD) per month is no chump change. BW shoul
144 GUYAIR707 : Lovely pics, make me wish I was there instead of in New York. I agree, Tobago should be promoted more, I hear the diving is superb. GUYAIR707
145 Post contains images yellowtail : For a fee of course. I only work for free for Belize
146 Post contains images caribbean484 : The writer miss a big point, the flight he was on was going into UVF while the flights coming down to POS were sold out long before, during the carni
147 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : I don't speak french, and had it translated from google: Air Caribbean promises 100 free tickets for the poor Air Caribbean announced that it will ma
148 GUYAIR707 : Happens all the time in the Guyana press. It did seem a little strange that BW would make such a big blunder. I still hold firm they should be carefu
149 GUYAIR707 : I may be wrong but I do believe they are referring to persons in French Guiana not Guyana. The French usually refer to French Guiana (Guyane francais
150 817Dreamliiner : Haven't heard from this airline in a while, does anyone know what their current fleet is like at the moment?[Edited 2012-03-09 14:13:56]
151 caribbean484 : You are right, but it was translated from google lol. According to planespotters, 3 ATR72, 4 A333, 1 A332,and 1 E190
152 817Dreamliiner : Thanks alot caribbean484, but I thought they were supposed to have gotten rid of the A332 in favor of the A333? Or am I mistaken?
153 caribbean484 : That is what I thought, also, they ordered 3 A351 for replacement in 2017 or there about.
154 817Dreamliiner : Well, I assume they are just using it for charter purposes along with the A333s? Not sure if they have anymore on order via lease. The A350 order was
155 trintocan : Well that article has some inaccuracies as you say, the route is flown by 50-seat Dash 8s (the ATRs mainly do TAB, CCS and BGI). Somehow though that
156 guyanam : If Logos were tbat importnat CAL would have done BWIA style logos. What ever one might say about them they were always congratualted for logos, color
157 GUYAIR707 : Agreed they have to respond, but the response can differ from situation to situation. My take is that the Guyanese have had lots of experience with t
158 Post contains images BW985 : A few inaccuracies? Nothing but inaccuries... 1) There is only one daily flight, not two. Departure is 13:45, arrival in St. Lucia is 14:50. The repo
159 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://119.82.71.76/kaieturnewsnew/Details.aspx?id=303&boxid=13243125 Surinam Airways ad for their upcoming GEO-MIA service in the Guyana daily Ka
160 2travel2know2 : Trini prime-minister due to be in PTY Monday. Is she going to fly BW ATR to PTY?
161 Avianca : is BW upgrading the CCS route to a double daily flight? just saw loaded for a randoom flight in September BW-310 leaving POS at 17:25 hours. anybody h
162 andrefranca : better to go on CM bizz class?
163 GUYAIR707 : EZjet responded to reports in the Kaietuer News. This is a report from the Stabroek News which I edited for length. EZjet is now using a North America
164 Avianca : a thats why I saw last week in GEO the aircraft stranded .... how often are they noramlly flying? Cheers Avianca
165 caribbean484 : They are flying 5 times a week and downgraded to 4, with Sun Country 738 sometime in April. To me this stinks high heaven of corruption and mismanage
166 Post contains links caribbean484 : This is another report on them "Dozens of passengers flying EZ-Jet were left stranded on Saturday morning at the Cheddi jagan International Airport (C
167 GUYAIR707 : Agree with you, they're off to a bad start. How will the traveling public trust them? Check their facebook page to get an idea of the numerous delays
168 GUYAIR707 : About 5 times per week. GUYAIR707
169 A388 : Ohhh, so now passengers do watch airline liveries? I thaught they just board the aircraft and have no time to watch an airline livery? While most air
170 BW424 : The extra CCS flight is a usual flight that is added during peak seasons. BW 310 normally runs 3x weekly when its added. I would think that this is w
171 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Saw this posted on CAL's facebook page: Caribbean Airlines breaks record for carnival passenger numbers: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5.1015
172 A388 : That is always good news for any airline. I was amazed that they leased a 747-400 to carry passengers, very impressive!!! Congratulations to Caribbea
173 andrefranca : From Redjet Facebook page! "Happy Monday REDjetters! It's the start of a new week and we have a new route for you! We're happy to announce our 9th rou
174 wadadli : [quote=andrefranca,reply=173]From Redjet Facebook page! "Happy Monday REDjetters! It's the start of a new week and we have a new route for you! We're
175 Post contains images andrefranca : Yes, now I want to see how they'll squeeze around with their MD's
176 LimaFoxTango : Is it safe to say BW will now (re)introduce its BGI-ANU-KIN-ANU-BGI flight? The good old 414/415 milk run? I vote for yes.
177 GUYAIR707 : Depending on the demand, as they have the data now. Maybe they will do it like their GEO-KIN route where you have to go through POS or BGI. Well it s
178 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Given the schedule in the article below, once again it appears the aircraft will be sitting in ANU for a considerable length of time. I'm sure the Air
179 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Well apparently its not wrong, from the article you posted: Also on their site: http://www.flyredjet.com/en/news/red...aunches-9th-route-barbados-ant
180 guyanam : The JFK GEO might have been a response to Delta which also cut airfares. 3 carriers is definitely excessive so the two giants are attempting to squee
181 GUYAIR707 : Well the time when persons jumped to Universal Airlines there weren't as many failed airlines on the JFK-GEO. The travelling public has definitely le
182 wadadli : Yes that would definitely be a problem relating to ramp space. I suspect its going to be a BGI-ANU-GEO-ANU-BGI route though as the BGI flights are on
183 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Check out this pdf file of flights in and out of GEO. It changes as the schedules change. This will give you an idea of how RD will be scheduling the
184 baje427 : At this point in the game would it be too late for RD to return the MD83's and perhaps lease some ATR's or Dash 8's most days they have at least one a
185 caribbean484 : I am not understanding how their planning departments work, those planes will stay on the ground to make sure people get a full day work or shopping?
186 A388 : If they are allowed to do a SXM-CUR-SXM, SXM-SDQ-SXM or SXM-PAP-SXM, that's all possible and all are routes with limited competition of airlines also
187 2travel2know2 : I'd not hold my breath on Bajan RedJet getting the 5ths for a SXM-CUR-SXM since both islands actually are part of the Netherlands. It'd be like a non
188 A388 : Not entirely true. I don't think the government of St. Maarten is going to deny an airline who has the potential to generate extra income for the isl
189 2travel2know2 : I flew AUA-CUR-AUA and it was kind of "international" except for the different Airport use passenger fee (or departure tax), which may be the likes o
190 A388 : I know it is difficult but as long as St. Maarten itself doesn't have an airline that can fly such routes, in my opinion there might be a possibility
191 andrefranca : But don't you think guys that this route SXM-CUR is overserved? you've got: DAE with their F100+ATR's Insel with their MD's KLM with their 747/MD-11
192 yellowtail : Loads are OK, but i don't think it warrants an increase in freq just yet.
193 A388 : The market seems over-served but a low cost airline focuses on a different (unserved) market. So yes, the current market is over-served but you don't
194 2travel2know2 : An evening PTY-POS and morning POS-PTY will give POS - for what it's worth - immediate connections @PTY to/from IAH, KIN/MBJ, NAS, PAP, LAS+ORD (well
195 yellowtail : I would have to disagree and say the only meaningful traffic CM would get on the schedule you speak of would be PTY traffic. To North America, better
196 guyanam : The Caribbean VFR market has two types, the younger and/or better educated person who books online. And the less educated, usually older person who s
197 A388 : Any airline will oppose any new thread in their own markets but whether the aviation authorities will react in the same way, I do not know. They can
198 guyanam : What type of people fly between SXM and CUR? is it business intensive? Are they price sensitive? Is their brand loyalty to the 2 Curacao carriers? I
199 baje427 : Don't think anyone responded can RD operate flights to Canada from BGI?
200 A388 : I don't have insight in to the market size but surely more people will travel on this route if low cost prices are offered. The market consists of bo
201 Post contains images A388 : My latest photos added to the database can be seen here: Don't you just love those Venezuelan classic 737's with the sunglasses? A388
202 aa1818 : I suppose they could, once they got the route authority/ permission from Canada. Could the MDs do BGI-YYZ? AA1818
203 andrefranca : On a straight line BGI-YYZ are 2.100 Nautical miles, the MD-83 and MD-87 pass these with a very low range... if you take the weather and cargo+pax+fu
204 A388 : Barbados is a FAA Category 2 airport, if the Canadian aviation authorities follow that FAA ruling, REDJet is not allowed to fly to Canada. A388
205 2travel2know2 : How many and how often passengers are dumped from UA POS-IAH? Any passengers not able to fly UA POS-IAH could be re-routed via PTY CM-UA if CM had a
206 caribbean484 : The MD82 cannot reach Canada, and the MD83 they have will be severely weight restricted into getting
207 guyanam : As some one said of EZ jet, people get emotional about starting airlines, and forget how expensive they are to operate. In tough economic time speopl
208 Post contains links caribbean484 : Well it looks like it is season as it will be back for the Christmas rush again. We don't talk about our friends in the north, however Bahamasair los
209 A388 : I think the question is whether Bahamasair is still really needed. They don't seem to care much about their fleet as they still fly around with very
210 andrefranca : Bahamasair and Cayman air... 1- They're too US focused! 2- Their fleet is aging, they don't have a strong FF program 3- Their competitors have better
211 GUYAIR707 : Interesting, I was just mentioning the same thing a few responses back. Didn't quite get the response you did. I do believe that if we had more contr
212 westindian425 : Forget those!! That GOL 738 photo is SICK!!!!! LOL! How bad is the delay? Who's weather? If it's SFO, then they are running on a flow program. Usuall
213 caribbean484 : This is where we have a conundrum with both these airlines, Bahamasair a couple of years ago wanted to re-fleet with the Q400, I believe they even ha
214 GUYAIR707 : SFO, and it's 3-1/2 hours. All VX flights to SFO are delayed about the same amount of time. It's been raining heavily in SFO for a few days now and f
215 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Not turning this into an energy forum, but one thing I learnt in Geology is that oilfields while depleted will somehow have more oil due to tectonic
216 baje427 : I don't think Bahamasair is necessary most of the routes they fly are covered by several carriers with oil prices on the rise again it does not help h
217 beeweel15 : I remember flying JFK-POS_JFK on BW MD83's Nice pics of the Nylon pool. My question is would the Govt or THA allow local and foreign based Trinbago f
218 GUYAIR707 : I am not sure that all the minor islands in the Bahamas are covered by other carriers. I do believe they are like a "utility" in that the routes may
219 baje427 : Did BW not fly YYZ-BGI with the MD83? I can remember back in 1993 when heading back to BGI on the Tristar an MD83 was parked next to us I assume it wo
220 Post contains images caribbean484 : They are starting to advertise their London flights for June already, also looking like they want expats for fly the 763 I'm not sure maybe our older
221 Post contains images turk223 : Ugh. "Older" members... Well, on behalf of us old guys (and former BW employees), I can confirm BW sent the MD-83s to YYZ. They were not really "main
222 A388 : I have seen a BW L15 and M80 at the same time in the early morning in JFK when I left on my own M80 flight on ALM back to Curacao. That was back in 1
223 guyanam : Does it make sense for financially weak carriers to serve routes which need to be built almost from scratch? Especially when one considers that their
224 Post contains images A388 : Hahaha, thanks westindian425 A388
225 guyanam : yes us "older" guys who were around in the late 80s and early 90s, need to rest frequently and hope that the nurse who takes care of us is pretty. LO
226 GUYAIR707 : Nice, 4 times per week. Do you think there is enough loads for nonstop? I mean that is the question being asked all the time. Back in the 80's I flew
227 A388 : BW also used their L15's to CUR, I believe they flew a POS-CCS-CUR-POS routing. The route was operated like 3 times a week if I remember correctly. I
228 baje427 : My first flight was on the MD83 BGI-JFK returned on the Tristar first time I ever ate pancakes been hooked since then.
229 guyanam : If I recall they used to do 3X per week to CCS and CUR. 2x was the Md83 to both destinations separately. And 1x they used the tristar to combine. Thi
230 beeweel15 : Remember those days. Talk about baggage problems. on the MD80. The L15 was the cleaner upper.. Yes LaTur that was a nice little airline. Was ramp sup
231 baje427 : I traveled on the MD83 between JFK-BGI never missed my bags maybe I have been lucky.
232 trintocan : Lots of fascinating history in the thread! This is a pleasure to read. Lovely pictures of Tobago Caribbean484. BW first got MD80s in 1985. The two the
233 yellowtail : no need to publicize NAS....flights are full full full..
234 baje427 : I did BGI-LHR on the L1011 first time I have ever seen someone lick the plate on a plane lol but must say the catering was great. Also did BGI-POS on
235 beeweel15 : POS pax had the bag problems on the MD80 flights. We would load the plane with the exception of F/C bags all the intermediate stop bags and put all t
236 BW424 : Nice ad. Very classy. As for expat pilots, why?? Seeing that the 763s will be 9Y registered, I assumed that CAL crew would operate the equipment. Ver
237 caribbean484 : Yep I love the face on it also, quite warm lol. The expats I assume is because they do not have enough crew on hold for training in time for the summ
238 GUYAIR707 : Not old enough (lol). I was on BW since the days of the good old 707 Sunjet service. We would do GEO-POS-BGI-ANU-YYZ and backtrack the same route. I
239 BW985 : I like the ad as well. The could NOT have chosen a better model for this. I wonder why they did not include their higher baggage allowance in the tex
240 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://119.82.71.76/kaieturnewsnew/Details.aspx?id=540&boxid=22656375 BW is getting ready for the competition from PY. Fares GEO-MIA now $198 one
241 guyanam : Might as well drive PY out quickly before people begin to like the nonstop and the absence of the risk of an unscheduled aircraft change in POS enrou
242 2travel2know2 : Also the like-hood of missing lost baggage from a non-stop flight is much less than on a one-stop or connecting flights. Does BW needs to stop POS-LG
243 trintocan : I would imagine that they would schedule the CCS - POS services to arrive at times facilitating connections with the LGW services. The present situat
244 aa1818 : RedJet is out of business. Flights suspended as of tonight. For sure it's a ploy to get public sympathy though. They harp on about BW's subsidies etc.
245 westindian425 : I doubt anyone is surprised. I wonder if they will refund tickets. lol
246 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://www.demerarawaves.com/index.p...uspending-flights-region-wide.html Here is the release, in Demerarawaves.com. They said to call 24 hours prior
247 Post contains links BWIA 772 : The Government of Barbados is not in a position to give Red Jet any money or concessions further to what has been done thus far (which IMHO should ha
248 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : A Jet One Express Convair CV-340, registration N153JR performing a freight flight callsign 153JR from San Juan (Puerto Rico) to Saint Maarten (Dutch A
249 beeweel15 : Well here is a chance for all the folks here to send them some ideas to save the company.
250 aa1818 : Thats very tragic. RIP to those on board. AA1818
251 817Dreamliiner : Not really surprised, pretty much saw this coming at some point
252 Post contains links BW424 : New forum up! Dushi Korsou- Caribbean Aviation Thread 96 (by BW424 Mar 17 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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