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LH 748 First Revenue Route?  
User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 395 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 29580 times:

Does anyone know what the scheduled first routes are going to be with this aircraft? I assume the United States. Is this going to be equipment we're going to see a lot of here or is it mainly to other regions like Asia or Africa?

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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 29655 times:
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Quoting olddominion727 (Thread starter):

Not official yet. Many rumours. But it is decided, but not announced.

I know where and when it will fly, but as I work for LH I am not allowed to tell, sorry.

You have to be patient.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29571 times:

I suspect JFK, but that's only a guess...

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29616 times:
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Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 2):

Could be. Sorry, but I am not allowed to tell.

What I can say is: It's happening in May.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29602 times:

I am flying FRA-Mumbai at the end of March, but I think that 744-route is not prestigious enough to be the first one with the 748I although I expect it to be served by the new Jumbo Jet later.
I assume first will be a North American destination. That would fit best. My guess is Chicago, Boeings HQ city.


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2766 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29573 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 1):
I know where and when it will fly, but as I work for LH I am not allowed to tell, sorry.

You are so cruel.............




(okay, just kidding)

 


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29552 times:
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Quoting point2point (Reply 5):
You are so cruel.............

I know... Sorry, I would love to tell you guys. I keep checking on LH website if the flight is in the system, but it still isn't.

And I don't want to risk my job...

wilco737
  



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29486 times:

Will LH announce the config for the aircraft at the same time as the first route?

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29466 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
Will LH announce the config for the aircraft at the same time as the first route?

I would say the config will be published earlier as it seems to be that there will be some short flights done (same as with the 380 back then) to get some of the crew trained.

wilco737
  

[Edited 2012-02-28 10:29:47]


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User currently offlineabrown532 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29458 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 6):
I would love to tell you guys

You could tell us, but then you'd have to kill us......
  


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7273 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29249 times:

Would love to see MIA with the seasonal downgrade to the 744 from the A380 maybe they will want just a bit more capacity in the summer. I would put my money on ORD or JFK.


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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29226 times:

My bet is on DXB. At least until the second machine arrives...


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User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 29034 times:

I was told that the first daily routing will be FRA-IAD. But I'm not telling who told me  


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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 27548 times:

Quoting UA933 (Reply 12):
I was told that the first daily routing will be FRA-IAD.

Thats awesome. Very excited if this is the case. It'll be sweet seeing the 748 in person!



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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 27358 times:

The 747 will be weird to partition for Lufthansa. The upper deck -- where, IIRC, the current F class is on the 747-400 -- is longer, and probably "too big" for the first class product. So, all Business up there? Where would F go? Nose? Will be interesting to see the final configuration.

Quoting abrown532 (Reply 9):
You could tell us, but then you'd have to kill us......

Die from suspense, die from being told. I choose the latter.



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 27315 times:
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Quoting ghifty (Reply 14):
So, all Business up there? Where would F go? Nose? Will be interesting to see the final configuration.

F class in the nose, C class upper deck and main deck.

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User currently offlinewdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 26992 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):

I will bet you a full fare first class round trip ticket on the 748 that it will have 8 first class seats!


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3712 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 26874 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
F class in the nose, C class upper deck and main deck.

So will it have the F bed and seat if they are now placed in the nose?



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User currently offlinewdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 26764 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 17):

I am not 100% sure, but I believe it is going to be the A380 first style. I will not bet that full fare first ticket on this!


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 26498 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 17):
So will it have the F bed and seat if they are now placed in the nose?

I understand that the bed+seat will only be on the 744, as the -8 will have another F seat.

Quoting UA933 (Reply 12):
I was told that the first daily routing will be FRA-IAD.

I will still keep my fingers crossed for Miami. I am SO suspending my loyalty to British Airways and booking my summer flights to Miami with Lufthansa if such is the case.

Speedbird741

[Edited 2012-02-28 20:53:11]


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User currently offlineholzmann From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 26284 times:

I too have been told FRA-IAD from someone on the inside.

User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 25413 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
F class in the nose,

Ick -- just like BA. I *hate* sitting forward of the nose gear, it makes me nauseous while taxiing...   I realize that BA has a marketing requirement to "turn left" at 1L for F -- I think that's a mistake on the 744.

This is why I love VS Upper Class -- I love sitting between doors 1L and 2L...


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 25297 times:

Quoting LimaNiner (Reply 21):
Ick -- just like BA. I *hate* sitting forward of the nose gear, it makes me nauseous while taxiing...

And I love it. I think the unique triangular front compartment of a 747 is the most special and intimate place to fly in. I prefer it to the narrow upper deck.


User currently offlinedairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 24405 times:

will be LH418/LH419 FRA-IAD-FRA.


A318/A319/A320/A321 AB3/A306/A310/A333/A343/A346 732/733/735/736/744/752/763/764/772/773 DH3 F70 F100 CR2 CR1 CR7 ATR42
User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 24380 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
I am flying FRA-Mumbai at the end of March, but I think that 744-route is not prestigious enough to be the first one with the 748I

Ouch.



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25 Post contains images wilco737 : Looks like you will win that bet No, it will be the 380 F class. The one with the bed was only for the upper deck of the 744. I know not a lot people
26 Post contains images Will : Hopefully it'll be the 14th.... that would be awesome... Rdgs, Will.....
27 Post contains images wilco737 : Once the first flight took place, it will be daily. So if the first flight is before the 14th, and you will be on the right flight, it is 748i wilco7
28 working2gether : I heard the same from my friend at IAD. I can't wait to see it at IAD. Hopefully I can get on one of the first few flights.... :/[Edited 2012-02-29 0
29 UA933 : Are there any airport-wise restrictions at IAD that would prevent LH from a daily 380 flight? UA and LH have a combined number of 5 flights during the
30 something : Is there a delivery schedule for their 748s? How many will they receive in 2012? LH sure has one of the most interesting fleets of all airlines - and
31 Post contains images wilco737 : Not that I am aware of. 380 is possible as well. One in March, one in June, 2 in July, one in September, so total 5 in 2012 from what I know. wilco73
32 Speedbird741 : How is it possible that people don't prefer the nose section? It is just about as private as the upper deck, MUCH quieter than the upper deck, and I
33 Post contains images wilco737 : I don't know why, but from what I heard is that people like being 'above' the rest and the area up there is more privatly and exclusivly... At least
34 YULWinterSkies : AF flies it to IAD, so certainly there is no restriction, assuming there are adequate gates at the terminal which is used by LH, if this is a differe
35 Post contains images wilco737 : I always see the AF 380 on the other side of the same Terminal concourse. So I guess the 380 shouldn't be a problem for IAD. Question is: do we need
36 Post contains images SA7700 : Won't you have 2x daily FRA-IAD flights during the Northern hemisphere summer? Granted I see that LH416 will be operated by an A333 and LH418 the 744
37 Post contains images wilco737 : Yes, LH 416 and LH 418. That is true. Same for JFK where you have 2 flights a day. 380 is planned for one flight and 744 for the other (once we get t
38 Post contains images SA7700 : May I say, a good answer and a nice side-step. Keep well, SA7700
39 GCPET : Would be nice to see it at New York! GCPET
40 Roseflyer : Interesting to see the speculation. It certainly will be a high yielding airport isnce the airplane will have a large business class cabin. 92 busines
41 jayeshrulz : India is out of the question. LH is seat-capacity wise restricted to Boeing 747-400 ONLY. So even if they bring the 7478, they wont be able to fill it
42 Roseflyer : The 747-8 will have fewer seats than LH's 378 seat 747-400.
43 Post contains images wilco737 : But that configuration hasn't been used for the last 2 years. Usually it is F8 C80 Y234 or F8 C66 Y270. wilco737
44 Roseflyer : I was assuming that India would allow the 747-8 since it is smaller than the past 747s. Do you know what the limit on capacity to India is?
45 Post contains images wilco737 : No, don't know the limit. Only heard that it is 744 limited. But currently LH isn't too much in sending more seats to India as the market is very dif
46 zeke : Would the first revenue route be something very short like fra-txl, fra-lhr, ham-muc to give the crews some sectors on type ?
47 Post contains images wilco737 : Yes, I heard that something like that is planned. But I guess what is meant here in the thread is the first long haul revenue flight. wilco737
48 working2gether : AFAIK, the only limitation is gates. There is only one gate at IAD that can handle the 380 and AF is using it (A20/22). I think if MWAA saw it necess
49 Post contains images A388 : I guess you have to kill us all now (just kidding) I somehow feel the A380 is too big for MIA and see the 748 as a better aircraft for the route but
50 Post contains images wilco737 : You love the A380? I couldn't tell The 380 is doing well during winter to MIA, but maybe during summer the 748i would make sense. Who knows. wilco737
51 Post contains images USAF336TFS : Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or so they say... Me? To me, the 748 is just hot!
52 rjm777ual : I hope to see the 748 at IAD!
53 nomorerjs : Would be nice to see at ORD since we don't (and probably won't) get any 380's until the airport expansion is complete (by 2030, if the weather is like
54 Post contains images A388 : Hahaha that is absolutely true but to play it safe, let's say that brandnew aircraft are just great!!! At least in my opinion A388
55 kl692 : Hello! it will be FRA - YYZ - FRA
56 Post contains images wilco737 : And where did you get that from?! wilco737
57 Post contains images stylo777 : a lot of speculation around, but we can already cross out some destinations due several reasons: - BOM/DEL (limited to 744 only) - GRU was mentioned i
58 Post contains images wilco737 : Agreed. It must be a destination which can be flown with one frame only. During summer it has always been 744 and during winter it is 346. So maybe t
59 stylo777 : thats true, too. but for some reasons I don't see it happening. correct, but wasn't it served with 744 last year or do I mix it up with another desti
60 Rara : Why is that? Does India have the same restriction for the 748 as for the A380? If so, it must be for the passenger version only, because I saw a BA 7
61 Post contains images wilco737 : You must mix it up. I would've bid for a trip if it were on the 744 From what I know the seat capacity is limiting and the 748i has too many seats -
62 Post contains images airbuseric : ... but bringing on your newest aircraft to show the Arabs (EK) isn't a bad idea either, I think. DXB is where a lot of money travels to, and maybe t
63 Post contains images wilco737 : Well, showing the Emirates guy ONE new B748i compared to 80 brandnew A380s... And LH arrives and leaves in the dark in DXB, so nobody would actually
64 s4popo : I really hope it's MIA. It is currently served with the A380 in the winter, and scheduled for the 744 in the summer. I was scheduled to fly FRA-MIA in
65 pnwtraveler : I agree with Wilco about YYZ. The only way it would work is if AC downgraded its FRA flight, and the LH748i and AC763 could handle the cargo volume. B
66 N1120A : I just can't wait to see her at LAX.
67 dennys : unofficial sources : FRA WAS - Fist route then FRA - DEL FRA HYDERABAD and FRA LAX kind regards FRA
68 Post contains images wilco737 : You mean: Washington? IAD? Could be. Doubtful, as explained above due to the seat restrictions. That route is suspended by LH completely. No more fli
69 dia77 : Wilco, Any chance we'll see the 748i at DEN in the not too distant future?
70 Post contains images wilco737 : Anything is possible at the moment... Sorry, cannot say more at the moment. wilco737
71 sweair : How does 748i stack up against 744 and 346 financially? Better engines we know but the rest?
72 Post contains images wilco737 : Difficult to say as she is not in operation yet. We will have to wait and see. I am sure she is better than the 744. The 744 is very old and I am sur
73 columba : I was just thinking about that and thought if LH really has enough aircraft in the A346 size, what if they needed more. A subfleet of 77Ws is very do
74 PanHAM : Reporting about the new J seats in Germany daily "WELT" there was a short remark about the first route of the 747-8i and that is FRA-JFK . Article in
75 B747forever : I thought it would be FRA-IAD.
76 dennys : sure , First destination shall be WAS ( IAD )
77 tailfin : The money seems to be on IAD. However I'm curious as to why. The route operates with A330 and B747 two daily flights. With the A330 it doesn't appear
78 American 767 : I know all of you are frustrated to know when and where the first 748i will enter service, but I suggest we stop bothering him with that until offici
79 RAGAZZO777 : The A333 service only runs during the summer season, the rest of the year LH only offers one daily flight on its own metal, so that's maybe why they
80 Post contains links jayeshrulz : http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic12173.html This link suggests BLR and DEL are the routes where 747-8i will go. Any comments?
81 Post contains images flightsimer : First flight... Frankfurt-Pittsburgh-Frankfurt... bringing back the golden age of 747s flying into Pittsburgh which stopped when British stopped flyin
82 Post contains images Delta777Jet : I just came back from the ITB (Tourism Fair) here in Berlin. According to the Press Manager at the Fair Lufthansa will put the 748i indeed on the FRA-
83 Post contains images B747forever : Wilco, where are you?
84 Post contains images point2point : I thought DEN might be the first, since LH has asked the DEN airport management to prepare for this, and I believe that DEN itself is ready for this,
85 Post contains images wilco737 : Sorry guys, still cannot say anything... Maybe it's JFK, maybe not.. Maybe DEN, maybe not... wilco737
86 Post contains images point2point : Sit back, feel free to relax, and just tell us everything, eh?
87 columba : Is the 747-8 still coming end of March ? In another Forum it is said it is delayed till May ?
88 Post contains images wilco737 : Don't have any information about that here. My latest info is End of March, training for crews starts in April and first flight for LH in May... wilc
89 Post contains images columba : Thanks, I was worried, but I should have known better it was in one forum where everyting Airbus is gold and everything Boeing is junk
90 Post contains images wilco737 : I didn't say that it cannot be true, but I haven't heard anything in this direction. NOt that I am in the position to get these info first hand, but
91 5MillionMiler : Kinda hope it is IAH so I could ride one soon as I am in/out of Texas on LH in the coming months... although I just booked LH in/out of DFW in April s
92 Post contains links chieft : There is still an unsolved flutter proplem of the tail fue tank: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-tanks-on-flutter-concerns-367148/ LH loses a
93 na : In an article I read today the most destinations for the LH 748I will be the US and India.
94 nomorerjs : What will ORD see first the 748 or 380? I was hoping LH would be the first into ORD with one of these birds, but now I'm thinkg KE or EK may bring the
95 jreuschl : ORD isn't A380 ready yet though, right?
96 aznmadsci : IAH will be getting the A380 in August. Maybe they will downguage the flight to a 748 during the Winter schedule.
97 Post contains links geizistgeil : In addition to chiefts threat, there was also an articel on airliners.de yesterday about problems with the tanks in the elevator and the involved shor
98 oldeuropean : The flutter issue is still not resolved and LH is not amused.
99 Post contains images columba : Then they will get their 787s a bit cheaper
100 Post contains images oldeuropean : I bet that they already are cheap.
101 abrelosojos : First two routes now planned are IAD and DEL. LAX is supposed to get service in the winter. Saludos, A.
102 Post contains images PHX787 : couldn't you just ask ? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand your sources are........?
103 Post contains images wilco737 : Well, maybe it changes all again. Delivery seems to be set to April 23rd. Good question. wilco737
104 NorthstarBoy : He already knows, he just can't tell us until LH makes an official announcement.
105 Nimish : Nice - and both are relatively short routes, and should leave enough time for any tech niggles to be resolved!
106 Post contains images stylo777 : btw. what will be the IATA aircraft code shown in the reservation systems for the 747-800? 748 or something different?
107 abrelosojos : = I have been told that this is where it stands and might change - apparently, also depends on the delivery schedule, Indian authorities approving of
108 Post contains images wilco737 : Thanks for the info. We will wait and see what's happening. That was a no brainer from the beginning that it will be a flight which you can easily fl
109 Post contains images PHX787 : haha, I meant ask if you can disclose that information about the first flights to us Again, who told you all of this?
110 Post contains images lightsaber : India limits to 400 seats and the 747. The bilateral has no mention of 747 model. Just that the largest aircraft allowed is a Boeing 747 and the seat
111 VC10er : Could you have a friend join A.net under a new name and have him post it? Have him sight an extremely powerful source! I will wire you the subscripti
112 nomorerjs : If you believe the Chicago media, ORD can handle the 380, 748, and Branson's space flights. I think LH will bring the 748 to ORD for summer 2013 with
113 sweair : I saw that CTT a Swedish company will deliver a cair system for a 747-8, I didn't know they had these systems in old aircraft too.
114 PM : Hmmm. I'm moving to BLR in the summer and my obvious route in and out will be on LH via FRA. I might be on the first 748i. How exciting!
115 Boeing747_600 : Why not FRA-BLR? - those 744s seem to be packed to capacity.
116 zeke : Yes they are installed on everything from A320/737s to A380s/747s...
117 Post contains links sv11 : Maybe LH 455 will be upgraded to 748. Its called the "Bangalore Express" Article about it here http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...-cruise-for-sili
118 dennys : Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 101): First two routes now planned are IAD and DEL. btw. what will be the IATA aircraft code shown in the reservation syste
119 C010T3 : If FRA-JFK is not getting any 74H, might we see it going all-388? Does anyone know what the next deliveries are?
120 dennys : Well it could work with a mix up of A388 and A333 . I do not see any EU Carrier operating JFK with 388s only on our days .
121 C010T3 : Well, one of the flights is going 388. The other is staying with the 744. Double daily 388 is quite feasible.
122 na : Sadly you´re right. I´m going to Dubai next month. Due to the timing I have no major influence on its via Munich with LHs most boring widebody, a A
123 USAF336TFS : I thought the A388 was withdrawn JFK to FRA? My understanding that eventually at least one daily to JFK will be a 74H.
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