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Busy Month For Central Illinois Regional Airport  
User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

After losing AirTran (Southwest) the folks in the airport authority offices have been busy in the last month! Gaining Allegiant Airlines to Orlando (Sanford) 2x weekly I believe, Frontier Airlines announces 4x weekly to DEN, and now the local newspaper reported today there is yet another announcement for additional air service to be made tomorrow. Here's the link...

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local...e-626f-11e1-be00-0019bb2963f4.html

Anyone have any speculations as to what the additional service would be? Perhaps something to the east coast?

OPS 5

[Edited 2012-02-28 20:47:57]

[Edited 2012-02-28 20:48:51]


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

If you do a little search on F9's website it looks like they're getting service to the real Orlando airport.

User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Ahhh very interesting! How did you find that out? Do you know someone that works for the airport authority and/or F9?


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

I considered their recent announcements and thought I'd take a look to see if they're still at it. And sure enough, there it was.

User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1610 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

Sure enough, looking in June, I'm seeing 3x weekly A319 on BMI-MCO by F9.

User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

Very interesting! I wonder how much that will affect G4's flights into Sanford? On another note, it seems that F9 is starting to do more point-to-point routes rather than in and out of DEN, no? They also just announced service to MCO from an airport in Montana (Billings I think?).


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Where did they announce in Montana? I haven't heard or seen anything about that.

User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25008 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
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Quoting mattya9 (Reply 5):
They also just announced service to MCO from an airport in Montana (Billings I think?).

Smokey Mountains, yes - TYS-MCO - but not Montana. Also, just today, ABE-MCO and MDT-MCO.

I'm hoping they haven't done yet and they'll pick up a couple more of the airports Airtran is dropping.

mariner



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User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 5):
Very interesting! I wonder how much that will affect G4's flights into Sanford?

I wondered the same. Perhaps G4 will shift those flights to Peoria? 


User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

My mistake... MDT (Harrisburg, PA) was the airport I was referring to. Apparently when I saw the letters M-D-T for some reason I thought somewhere in the state of Montana. I always forget MDT is Harrisburg though.


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 8):
I wondered the same. Perhaps G4 will shift those flights to Peoria? 

1+1=4? In other words, what's the relationship here?

Quoting mariner (Reply 7):
I'm hoping they haven't done yet and they'll pick up a couple more of the airports Airtran is dropping.

The people in the other cities Southwest is dropping share that hope.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22727 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 10):
The people in the other cities Southwest is dropping share that hope.

While I have argued (and I think you agree) that some of the smaller FL cities might have looked different with a WN schedule of daily service to 3 or 4 cities, I think the DEN hub permits F9 to do the "FL model" somewhat better than FL did it, as it gives connections to a real hub that has some leisure demand and cities with reasonably high demand (both business and leisure) on the other side, many of which are unserved or served less than daily from most of these smaller east coast cities (LAX, PHX/AZA, SAN, SFO, etc.).



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User currently offlinegustywinds From Armenia, joined Feb 2012, 140 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

I am seeing 2 F9 weekly A319s from BMI to MCO on Mondays and Fridays.

Flight F9 475 MCO-BMI 305P - 429P
Flight F9 474 BMI-MCO 510P - 825P


User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 10):
Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 8):
I wondered the same. Perhaps G4 will shift those flights to Peoria?


1+1=4? In other words, what's the relationship here?

With Frontier entering the CIRA-central Florida market, Allegiant Air may feel slighted and shift its SFB flights to Peoria. Unless, of course, it believes F9 will eventually fold. 

[Edited 2012-02-29 06:17:12]

User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 13):

It will definitely be interesting to see how things go for the first year or so with these 2 airlines going head-to-head on the central Illinois area to Orlando route. I know this has been one of AirTran's consistently full/mostly flights, not only out of BMI but I believe their whole system, for quite some time. We'll see what people really want though... G4 will most likely provide lower/slightly lower fares than F9 but F9 will fly much newer and nicer aircraft and fly to an airport that's 15 min from Disney instead of an hour.



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User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 14):
It will definitely be interesting to see how things go for the first year or so with these 2 airlines going head-to-head on the central Illinois area to Orlando route. I know this has been one of AirTran's consistently full/mostly flights, not only out of BMI but I believe their whole system, for quite some time. We'll see what people really want though... G4 will most likely provide lower/slightly lower fares than F9 but F9 will fly much newer and nicer aircraft and fly to an airport that's 15 min from Disney instead of an hour.

Or G4 might announce that it won't begin BMI-SFB flights after all. Start date is still some 10 weeks away. I know the airline has done this in the past for various reasons (fuel prices, etc.). Marion, Illinois comes to mind.


User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

AirTran's Bloomington - Orlando nonstops were full, but there were still a great deal of connecting passengers on their flights to/from Atlanta.

The traffic, in fact, may be there.



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User currently onlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3096 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Thread starter):
there is yet another announcement for additional air service to be made tomorrow.

Press Release From Frontier Airlines

Frontier Adds Even More Low-Fare, Nonstop Orlando Service

"Frontier Airlines said today that it will add new year-round, nonstop service between Orlando, Fla. (MCO) and Bloomington/Normal, Ill. (BMI)."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fronti...-adds-even-more-low-160000486.html


User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1482 times:

Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 15):

Yea I could see that happening as well. I'm not quite sure how G4 is going to respond to this... hence why I said in my previous post it will be interesting! I'd like to see them go at it for a year and see what happens. Could it be possible for both airlines to run the same route to the two different airports and still make money??? I find that hard to believe but if the pax are there I guess it could be possible, no?



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User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 18):
Yea I could see that happening as well. I'm not quite sure how G4 is going to respond to this... hence why I said in my previous post it will be interesting! I'd like to see them go at it for a year and see what happens. Could it be possible for both airlines to run the same route to the two different airports and still make money??? I find that hard to believe but if the pax are there I guess it could be possible, no?

It's certainly possible, but the number of weekly seats to central Florida is going to increase one-third by late May. FL's 4X 717 nonstops total 468 seats weekly. Between G4 and F9, there will be 714 seats weekly (2X weekly 150-seat MD-80s and 3X weekly 138-seat A-319s). Actually, for about a week, there will be 1,182 seats to MCO and SFB combined!

I'm not sure CIRA can sustain this level unless the market expands with fares significantly lower than FL's.


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