einsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3882 posts, RR: 9 Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
It's clear to see that CM is a very successful airline, with its fleet consisting solely of 737s. However, I certainly don't think a 737 has the legs to fly PTY to Europe.
Considering that PTY's only European destinations are AMS with KL and MAD with IB, what are the chances that CM might add a couple of widebodies for TATL flights (not now, but perhaps before the end of the decade)? Madrid, London, and Paris would seem like the likely choices, perhaps even Barcelona.
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Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10391 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2843 times:
Copa already pushes the 737 farther than any other airline in a typical configuration. PTY-EZE/MVD is a very long trip and I would assume that they'd benefit from a smaller widebody for those routes on top of routes to Europe or more extensive US routes.
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AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7193 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
At this point, I don´t think CM is interested in a very small fleet of a very different airliner to serve a few European destinations. Maybe in a few years, but not now. Besides, that small subfleet would require a total revamp of the services CM provides today, not so much in Y, maybe, but definitely in C. As for widebodies for MVD or EZE, I think their model is based on frequency, not on capacity.
A good analogy would for Southwest to get a few widebodies to fly to LHR or CDG. It´s just not their business model and probably won´t happen soon.
Probably the longest commercial route for a 737 nowadays.
Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter): what are the chances that CM might add a couple of widebodies for TATL flights (not now, but perhaps before the end of the decade)? Madrid, London, and Paris would seem like the likely choices, perhaps even Barcelona.
Copa studied in 2007 the chance to launch flights to Europe but the idea hasn't been materialized.
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kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8743 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1972 times:
I recall reading an interview with the CEO of CM last year ( pretty sure it was in Flight International magazine) where he said that they currently have no intention of investing in widebodies and would rather attempt to persuade some of their future *A partners to commence longhaul services to PTY ( which, presumably, they would codeshare on) . I will try to find a link.
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RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3957 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1284 times:
Quoting nethkt (Reply 12): LH FRA-PTY with high-density A340-300?
I'd say the 8 First class seats on 333 and lower density 343 are a waste on FRA-PTY?
Would love to see a STAR long-haul, trans-con. connection from PTY!
I would think, a tag to PTY instead of a non-stop, or even a circle trip with another neighboring city they serve, or can, or else an en-route, not too far off the circle mapper for a stop. For any airline trying trans-atlantic to PTY, not just LH.
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