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Delta Summer Domestic Widebody Routes  
User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3636 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13807 times:

I think we have one of these all the time but im wondering for this summer where Delta will be flying the domestic widebodies?

i know we have o/w generally for the summer
3x ATL-SLC
5x ALT-LAX
2x ATL-SAN
2x ATL-SFO
1x ATL-JFK
1x MSP-LAX
2x DTW-LAX
1x SLC-HNL
1x ATL-HNL
1x LAX-HNL

im wondering if there are any odd balls out there? Does JFK have any more domestic widebody flights? Its good to see Delta have so many widebody domestic flights still when alot of other airlines have reduced them. Deltas domestic 767s with the PTVS are now a pretty nice ride.

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User currently offlinePIEAvantiP180 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13750 times:

Add ATL to SEA 2x 763
ATL to LAS 2x 763
MSP to SEA 1x 763


User currently offlineFSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13153 times:

So I can pretty much guarantee that this will change a bit before the summer, but as of now here's the domestic widebody schedule on June 14, 2012:

ATL-SEA 1x 763
ATL-SFO 2x 763
ATL-LAX 3x 763, 1x 77L
ATL-SAN 2x 763
ATL-SLC 3x 763
ATL-JFK 1x 767
ATL-SJU 1x 763
ATL-HNL 1x 333
MSP-SEA 1x 763
MSP-LAX 1x 763
DTW-SFO 2x 763
DTW-LAX 2x 763
LAX-HNL 1x 763
SLC-HNL 1x 763



SEA SFO SJC LAX ONT SAN DEN IAH DFW OMA FSD MSP MSN MKE ORD DTW CVG MEM JAN BHM RSW ATL CLT BWI PHL LGA JFK MEX LIM KEF
User currently offlineunited319 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12351 times:
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I know in the past couple of years there have been quite a few Widebody routes from DTW, MSP, and ATL to LAX. IIRC, DTW had a 767, MSP had 1 763, and ATL had a mix of 772, 77L, 333, and 767's. I also recall one or two 777's (both ER and LR) being routed on ATL-DTW.

Will all of these go by the wayside for Summer Flying?



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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4762 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11981 times:

JFK-SEA sees 2x weekly 767 flatbed service, not sure if its staying for the summer or not..


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User currently offlinenwa757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11499 times:

Quoting FSDan (Reply 2):
DTW-SFO 2x 763

I'm surprised with upgauge...currently it's a mix 320, 738s


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11452 times:

MSP-SEA saw three 763s a day last year. Looks like two are gone and are back to 753s like in the past.

DTW-SFO must have grabbed them as I don't remember that route seeing a 763 last year.


User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1445 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11291 times:

This was not scheduled but wide-body nonetheless, last July or August: JFK-DTW B744
(It was a diverted flight originally scheduled TLV-JFK. Ended up making a stop in AMS due to bird ingestion. It left the next day from AMS to DTW with a stop at JFK. Local traffic was permitted on)



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User currently offlinemodesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2819 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10632 times:

A bit surprised about the 2x 763s on DTWSFO. Did DL operate widebodies on this route last summer?

I just did a random search for June 15, and it shows 3x 763s on ATLSFO.


User currently onlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 637 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10285 times:

The first flight of my life was a Delta 767 (IIRC), SLC-JFK in August 1997. Good memories. I'd love to see a widebody back on that route.


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User currently offlinenwa757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10118 times:

Quoting modesto2 (Reply 8):
A bit surprised about the 2x 763s on DTWSFO. Did DL operate widebodies on this route last summer?

I'm surprised as well. And no, last summer no regularly scheduled 763 service


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9884 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 6):
MSP-SEA saw three 763s a day last year. Looks like two are gone and are back to 753s like in the past.

Is DL using a MSP - SEA - MSP as a fill in between trips to AMS or NRT?

Dave



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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4971 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9525 times:
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Quoting alitalia744 (Reply 4):
JFK-SEA sees 2x weekly 767 flatbed service, not sure if its staying for the summer or not..

Unfortunately the flatbed 76Ts will be yanked from the SEA-KIX/PEK services with the summer schedule for use on the LHR-MIA/JFK and ATL-BRU flights so no need to reposition the 76Ts to SEA any longer....


User currently offlinepremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9507 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 11):

No, only domestic 767s are being used to SEA and LAX from MSP/DTW.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9330 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 12):
Unfortunately the flatbed 76Ts will be yanked from the SEA-KIX/PEK services with the summer schedule for use on the LHR-MIA/JFK and ATL-BRU flights so no need to reposition the 76Ts to SEA any longer....

Except LHR-MIA is being axed in April or May, I believe.



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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9022 times:

I see a lot of 772s and 77Ls being used in the morning ATL-DTW as reposition flights in the summer

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 11):

Is DL using a MSP - SEA - MSP as a fill in between trips to AMS or NRT?

As mentioned above, no. In fact, since DL came on board, I don't believe MSP has ever seen a regularly scheduled domestic repositioning flight of an internationally configured aircraft.


User currently offlinemikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8651 times:
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Not exactly a widebody - but is 757 coming back to ATL-SJC for the summer?


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8515 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 16):
As mentioned above, no. In fact, since DL came on board, I don't believe MSP has ever seen a regularly scheduled domestic repositioning flight of an internationally configured aircraft.

Only one I can think of is in Spring 2009, there was a daily A330-300 on MSP-ATL-MSP to get A330s down to Atlanta for some trans-Atlantic flying.


User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

I came into work today at LAS and saw an A330 (854NW) parked at gate A14. I know it's not quite the summer yet but will Delta be flying one of their 330's in here on a daily basis now or was this just a replacement aircraft of some sort? According to Flight Aware this was a scheduled flight to ATL.

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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7077 times:

So, without adding frequencies because the type of a/c changes on certain dates and may not even operate on some days, these are the routes that will see widebody a/c

ATL-HNL
ATL-JFK (daily 763ER repositioning)
ATL-LAS
ATL-LAX
ATL-SAN
ATL-SEA
ATL-SFO
ATL-SJU
ATL-SLC
DTW-LAX
DTW-SFO
LAX-HNL
MSP-LAX
MSP-SEA
SLC-HNL

Quoting FSDan (Reply 2):
So I can pretty much guarantee that this will change a bit before the summer


Work began on the June schedule back in December and it's pretty much set in stone although it doesn't officially close out until early April. I won't expect much changes if any.

Quoting davescj (Reply 11):
Is DL using a MSP - SEA - MSP as a fill in between trips to AMS or NRT?

Dave

The a/c being used on MSP-SEA are 76Qs (domestic 767s) so no.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 16):
As mentioned above, no. In fact, since DL came on board, I don't believe MSP has ever seen a regularly scheduled domestic repositioning flight of an internationally configured aircraft.
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 18):

Only one I can think of is in Spring 2009, there was a daily A330-300 on MSP-ATL-MSP to get A330s down to Atlanta for some trans-Atlantic flying.

Regularly scheduled no but they did run a 332 ATL-MSP on flight 300 for about a week straight some months back for repositioning as well as a 333 on the same flight number not too long ago. Also for the past several months, on some Saturdays you can find a 76Q on ATL-MSP.

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 19):
I came into work today at LAS and saw an A330 (854NW) parked at gate A14. I know it's not quite the summer yet but will Delta be flying one of their 330's in here on a daily basis now or was this just a replacement aircraft of some sort? According to Flight Aware this was a scheduled flight to ATL.

It was a regularly scheduled flight (DL 2357 out and DL 28 back) but the a/c was a sub from a 76Q.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6978 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 18):
Only one I can think of is in Spring 2009, there was a daily A330-300 on MSP-ATL-MSP to get A330s down to Atlanta for some trans-Atlantic flying.

You're right, totally forgot about that one. I even used to try see the A330s as they started their descent into MSP. It was pretty brief service too, maybe two months.


User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Last summer my station got random 76Qs, 763ERs, and even an A330-2 as a replacement for the the nightly 753 to ATL... We have a daily 763 right now for the month of March and only March.


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 22):
Last summer my station got random 76Qs, 763ERs, and even an A330-2 as a replacement for the the nightly 753 to ATL... We have a daily 763 right now for the month of March and only March.

BOS, MCO, LGA and a few others will get scheduled 76Qs but I can't see it this far out. When I say scheduled I don't mean regularly scheduled but in the fact that days have already been planned for them weeks out. One day here, one day there type of thing. Not equipment subs which happens as close as a day out if not a few hours.

for example, BON will get the 753 on some days of the way in a particular month. Not regularly scheduled but the flights had been pre-planned for the equipment.



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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6523 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 23):
Not equipment subs which happens as close as a day out if not a few hours.

I totally understand how the scheduling works. It just seems to be a gamble when something gets subbed in on an upgrade from a 757 to a 767 or a A330 from a MD-90



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25 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Of course it is that's why it's called a sub I was merely conveying to other posters that don't really understand how DL scheduling works. They may s
26 ericaasen : I would just love to see a 67 ATL-ORD-ATL, I'm tired of stacking mail and trying to figure out how to get 4 carts on a MD88.[Edited 2012-03-05 20:54:3
27 FlyASAGuy2005 : LOL and im sure the downline stations hate downloading it! Nothing like pulling up an offload report and seeing bags in 6, 5, and 4 with mail in 3 AN
28 aviationbuff08 : So that was your excellent stacking work?? Why can't they get the mail on the 7am 757 departure for ATL. It would be easier to stack and is capable o
29 FlyASAGuy2005 : One thing I LOVED about MCO! The ratio of 88s to 757s and 767s leaned in favor of the latter group! But from my past experience, the most we would se
30 Post contains images ericaasen : Yeah, I always figure ATL loves seeing those flights from us. I loaded 1877 ORD-ATL on Sunday with mail in 2, 5, and 6, with bags in 1, 3, and 4! You
31 1337Delta764 : I really hope SJU-ATL remains on a 763. I am booked one of those flights in July. Considering I already had two of my flights downgraded to non-AVOD a
32 zippyjet : Every time I go through ATL I notice a DL 777 flight to MCO. I believe they may have a wide body flight to FLL or MIA.
33 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : 75X are used as place-holders for many flights. At the end of the day a 757 is a 757 for scheduling purposes on most flights. Ship numbers are usuall
34 nwaesc : You can stack trays for days in the '57! What? Why not? If the load plan'll work, what's the issue?
35 1337Delta764 : FYI, PHX-JFK is a 738 (it was previously a 73H).
36 dlramp4life : Are you flying on a redeye?
37 ericaasen : They've ran an experiment at ORD. Last fall we had a couple of load planners up from ATL that planned all of the flights for the AM shift and we were
38 1337Delta764 : Yes, I am (Flight 1984 on May 17 PHX-JFK).
39 aviationbuff08 : Well the short version..from my understanding this is aimed more for cargo to follow proper procedures and stage cargo for the flights at a specific
40 nwaesc : That's too bad. One of the best things about ALIS is the ability to get creative with the load plan. Sounds like someone let the visiting ATL planner
41 Post contains images ericaasen : I think that was one aspect, and probably the one that won out in the boardrooms at ATL. But, I also heard rumors of some execs wanting to reduce ALA
42 FlyASAGuy2005 : Not sure who started this one...the big push is to actually have an ALA planeside at every flight; mainline flight at least. The way NW staffed leads
43 Post contains images nwaesc : Lol. Old habits die hard. Kinda what I was driving at. I get odd ball load plans all the time, and move it around to do what works. As for adding unp
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