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LAN To Announce First 787 Routes This Month  
User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10616 times:

LAN is to reveal its plans for the new 787 fleet this month during the International Air and Space Fair (FIDAE) that will take place in Santiago, Chile. There will be an interactive stand where people will be able to see what the interior of the 787 will look like. Also, LAN will take advantage of the event to announce its first routes to be operated by the new 787-8.


http://www.etravelblackboard.com/art...the-end-of-2012#.T1WF3A6v7OE.bitly


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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10430 times:

Let's hope for LIM-AKL, SCL-SYD, SCL-LAX

User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10389 times:

I am hoping for LIM-LHR with connections with BA to the rest of Europe!!!

Fingers crossed!

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10311 times:

Hope they throw in an LIM to MIA flight so on my next journey to MIA I can spot it maybe even see if I can get to the gate and a tour. I am an optimist who likes to think big.

Tried to find a pic on our data base, no luck yet.

[Edited 2012-03-06 14:38:18]


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User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10259 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 1):
Let's hope for LIM-AKL

A LIM-AKL-MEL flight would allow LAN to offer flights to SYD/MEL flights on its own 'metal' via AKL. Plus, AKL is a great connecting point for onward flights to Hong Kong and the rest of Asia.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 2):
I am hoping for LIM-LHR with connections with BA to the rest of Europe!!!

Same here.   A flight from Lima to London is long overdue. Not to mention that LHR offers far more connections to Europe/Middle East than MAD does.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10048 times:

Although I hope UA does it first...would be nice to LAN doing LIM-ORD or SCL-ORD

I think LIM-ORD will happen in the next 1-2 years on UA, AA, LAN or TACA although I could also see UA or TACA doing LIM-IAD before ORD...


User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9804 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 5):
I think LIM-ORD will happen in the next 1-2 years on UA, AA, LAN or TACA although I could also see UA or TACA doing LIM-IAD before ORD...

Feel the same way about IAD. Still way to see the lone star tail fin here flying over route 28. Is that route shelved for good? LIM-IAD and SCL-IAD-JFK.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 2):
I am hoping for LIM-LHR with connections with BA to the rest of Europe!!!

My wish is to see BA to LIM and SCL (Not on the same flight though) but I think we'll see LAN to LHR before all the way around.

BTW...when is LAN getting the first 787? September this year?



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7572 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9685 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 1):
Let's hope for LIM-AKL, SCL-SYD

Aren't these routes candidates for 789 service? I wonder if the 788s will have the legs for these routes.

I think the first 788 routes that LA will offer will be some short- or medium-haul regional haul flights for crew familiarization and training, and then the 788s will start flying long haul. In this sense, I dare speculate we will see LA doing some hub-to-hub flights, such as SCL-LIM, SCL-EZE, LIM-BOG and SCL-GRU. LIM-MIA would be awesome too. After that, who knows? Hopefully SCL-MEX. :p



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User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9592 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 7):
I think the first 788 routes that LA will offer will be some short- or medium-haul regional haul flights for crew familiarization and training, and then the 788s will start flying long haul. In this sense, I dare speculate we will see LA doing some hub-to-hub flights, such as SCL-LIM, SCL-EZE, LIM-BOG and SCL-GRU. LIM-MIA would be awesome too. After that, who knows? Hopefully SCL-MEX.

You're right about that, Eddie. LA's very first routes with the 787 will be regional routes within South America, same for LP. Once that is done, it is expected that LP's first 787 long-haul route will be LIM-MAD-LIM, while LA's will be SCL-LIM-LAX. Of course, nothing is for sure at this point. We'll just have to wait a few weeks in order to know that information.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11437 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9515 times:
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I would consider SCL-LIM as a safe bet to train the crew


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9407 times:
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LAN is planning to rid itself of its A340s, so I think it is safe to assume that we will see the 787s first on the routes that are currently served by the A340s.


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User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9315 times:

SCL-AKL-SYD with a 787 would require CASA approval AIUI as its beyond ETOPS-180. This is unlikely to be provided based on what other board members have said. Perhaps the AKL-SYD tag will be chopped off. SCL-SYD direct is even more unlikely.

User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9287 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 11):
SCL-AKL-SYD with a 787 would require CASA approval AIUI as its beyond ETOPS-180.

Even the SCL-AKL sector ? Wouldn't that be subject to the New Zealand Aviation Authority ?



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 11):
. SCL-SYD direct is even more unlikely.

Isn´t Qantas suppose to operate this route this year?

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9266 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 13):
Isn´t Qantas suppose to operate this route this year?

That's with a quad.

The cynics would say that it's OK if QF are doing it but not another airline, and the number of engines is just an excuse.

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 12):
Even the SCL-AKL sector ? Wouldn't that be subject to the New Zealand Aviation Authority ?

I think if it's SCL-AKL-SYD then all 3 authorities would have to approve it. I could be wrong though.


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8554 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9133 times:
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Quoting thegeek (Reply 14):
Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 12):
Even the SCL-AKL sector ? Wouldn't that be subject to the New Zealand Aviation Authority ?

I think if it's SCL-AKL-SYD then all 3 authorities would have to approve it. I could be wrong though.

Why would CASA have any jurisdiction over the AKL-SCL sector?



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9034 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 14):
I think if it's SCL-AKL-SYD then all 3 authorities would have to approve it. I could be wrong though.

SYD-SCL would require all three parties to approve because they would be flying over NZ airspace. SYD-AKL would require CASA/CAA and AKL-SCL CAA and the Chilean agency endorsement.Provided the othe two approved, Even if CASA was unhappy they could only restrict services that enter Australian airspace not the whole route.


User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9006 times:

So you are saying that LAN will be able to ignore CASA between SCL and AKL even though the flight continues to SYD?

User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8554 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8917 times:
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Quoting thegeek (Reply 17):
So you are saying that LAN will be able to ignore CASA between SCL and AKL even though the flight continues to SYD?

Interesting question, if tickets are being sold through from SYD to SCL I suppose CASA may be able to play silly buggers. Obviously the SCL-AKL vv sectors would be none of their business with regard to pax who are not ticketed through to Aussie.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 17):
So you are saying that LAN will be able to ignore CASA between SCL and AKL even though the flight continues to SYD?

I'm saying there is less that CASA can do than if it was a direct flight if the flight that enters their airspace is within their own EDTO 180 restrictions and adheres to all criteria laid down by the other aviation authorities before it gets there.

The CAA already allows NZ to operate EDTO240 with their 77W fleet (since November) on North American routes (soon to be 77E as well) . This is beyond the CASA restrictions for twin operation over water, yet the same aircraft that lands from LAX can then operate out on the flights to BNE/MEL with no issue. This would be no different for LA if they did the same with a 787 - if only a flight number change in AKL is required then the problem is easily negotiated....

The CAA will have no problem rating LA/AR which currently operate routes well outside of the edto 180 restrictions set by CASA, but well within the factory rated edto 330 limits from boeing for 777/787 aircraft. In fact EDTO 330 already has parameters laid out by the CAA, and NZ will qualify shortly for that as well. There is no reason why LA which has a proven history of operating the route outside of edto 180 (even with a quad) could not quickly and easily attain the CAA level required to gain this status as well.


User currently offlinedanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

well who knows what will happend with the 787 because LAN colombia just requested to Aerocivil to fly BOG-MAD-BOG in 787 767 or A340

User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

Maybe SCL-IAH to monkey around with UA and *A? A new airline, aircraft, and paint scheme all in one would be a nice welcome. Can the 787 do SCL-HKG/NRT? I could also see those in the mix.


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User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6096 times:

SCL-IAH or SCL-IAD is long overdue. News were heard last year of UA making a move back to SCL. Nothing official....


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User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 21):
Maybe SCL-IAH to monkey around with UA and *A?

If LAN were to fly to Texas, I'm pretty sure it'd be to DFW, not IAH.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5577 times:

Knowing that MIA is one of LAN's prime destinations and a decent connecting point to Europe as well, can we see LAN use their 787's to MIA as well?

A388


25 SonomaFlyer : Once the familarization is complete: 1. SCL to either LAX or SFO. Both currently route via LIM but if the loads justify it, one or more could go non-s
26 Post contains images gemuser : While I have been out of the loop for awhile I'm pretty sure CASA would have NO say on flight operations between NZ & Chile, even if the flight c
27 aerorobnz : I have seen the current EZE flight overfly many parts of NZ on radar previously though, and the diversion for fuel depending on routing can be CHC/AK
28 gemuser : Sure, but they don't need to, in the very unlikely event of a dispute they could by pass NZ airspace. Gemuser
29 SJOtoLIR : LAN also used to deploy dedicated flights into the SCL-LAX sector. Analyzing the OneWorld e-timetable, there's no any LA SCL-LAX non-stop flight at t
30 RAGAZZO777 : LAN does fly SCL-LAX nonstop but only during the southern summer, the rest of the year the loads aren't enough to sustain nonstop flights from SCL to
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