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Air France To Start A380 Service To SIN  
User currently offlineManekS From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10087 times:

'Starting 02 April 2012, Air France will offer A380 flights three times a week (substituting the introduction of additional flights in May) and B777-300 flights four times a week.'

Operating days ex-SIN are as follows:
02 April - 03 June: Monday, Wednesday, Saturday
04 June - 10 June: Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Sunday
11 June - 28 October: Tuesday, Friday, Sunday

More information: http://www.airfrance.sg/SG/en/local/...geur/destination/A380launch_sg.htm


This is great news - AF becomes the fourth A380 operator to SIN after SQ, QF and LH. This product will make them a much more competitive option on long flights to Paris and beyond.

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User currently offlineTeamInTheSky From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9755 times:

I don't know if I will ever understand AF's deployment of the A380. It seems it has been deployed to a dozen cities already and talks are that it might be deployed to ATL in the future. I flew to DXB recently with them expecting the A380 and was instead thrown onto a 77W because they deployed it somewhere differently that day. Anyone have any insight into the variability?


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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9711 times:

Indeed Air France's announcement should always be taken with a pinch of salt ... its Singapore office previously announced that SIN will be the second A380 destination after Tokyo-Narita ... but that just did not happen.

So now, it is better to see what happens ... does this now mean that Air France will retain its existing daily frequency - and not increase to 10x weekly as previously announced - with the A380 operating 3x weekly and the B773ER operating 4x weekly.

Anyway, I am happy to see Air France bringing the A380 to Singapore because its yield and loading on this route is actually quite good.

KC Sim


User currently offlinechangyou From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9610 times:
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Bring it on!!! SQ had deployed 388A(Full jcl) to CDG recently. Let the competition begins...

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9000 times:

AF desperately needs to add capacity on its CDG-SIN route ... But AF also has to reduce costs and save momey. Using the A380 to provide this extra capacity makes sense for the moment as it is a less costly solution than adding a second flight 3 x weekly.

Concerning the A380, AF is now seriously considering to operate it on CDG-ABJ at the end of this year ... ABJ being one of AF's most profitable route. Talks have started with the airport authorities to see how they could accomodate the whale there ...


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2642 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8787 times:

So for Summer 2012, AF will deploy it's A380's to:

YUL - 4 weekly
IAD - daily
SIN - 3 weekly
JFK - daily
NRT - daily
LAX - daily

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8340 times:

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 5):

+
JNB - Daily


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2642 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8197 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
JNB - Daily

Yes. forgot about that one.

So that puts the total A380s required to operate all these routes to at least 8. Meaning AF should get at least 2 more A380s delivered by June 2012.

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8158 times:

Will HKG get A380 service as well?

User currently offlinevincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6395 times:

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 5):
NRT - daily

I'm not so sure about this, so far NRT has been serve by 773, while I was boarding CDG-JFK, there seemed to be fewer passengers going to NRT, even less so than VN to SGN. This was Sat BTW, in fact they couldn't even fill 773.

Quoting aviasian (Reply 2):
Indeed Air France's announcement should always be taken with a pinch of salt

Even AF 005/006 use 773 on certain days (Tue-Thur), perhaps AF should list the aircraft EQV like CX.

With 8 frames by the end of the year, the (regular) schedules may look like this:

CDG-JFK X 1
CDG-IAD
CDG-YUL
CDG-DXB (I believe IAD isn't served daily either by A380 [neither is DXB] so those 3 take 2 frames) X 2
CDG-LAX
CDG-JNB (those 2 take 3) X 3

finally, the 7th and 8th frames might/could go for
CDG-SIN - 3 weekly
CDG-ATL - daily
CDG-ABJ - ???


User currently offlineCYsafan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 8):
Will HKG get A380 service as well?

There 's no plans for AF to start flying with A380s as it 's competitor are not using them.


User currently offlineGCPET From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2012, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Good to see AF expanding their A380's network!

GCPET



If it's not Boeing, I'm not going!
User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

Waouu, AF A380 to Abidjan, Ivory Coast??? That's a news!!

Knowing very well this airport (very modern terminal, one of the best in West Africa), I doubt the taxiway could allow ground operations for such a big aircraft, even if the past AF was operating the B744 and now the B773ER.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

The 7th & 8th aircraft will be used to start LAX, restart NRT, and SIN for the S12 schedule.

W12/13 should see GIG and could see ABJ as I mentionned above. PVG is also scheduled but subject to Chinese Gov. approval.

The 9th & 10th aircraft are due to be delivered in March & April 2013, while the last two airframe are postponed from 2014 to 2015.
Note that AF will also take delivery of 3 new B77W in April/May 2012.


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

To FlySSC a question: why this decision of AF to decrease the offer in J- Class to MRU by using a COI B77W with only 14 seats in J- Class?
MRU can support J- Class as there is a real demand (cf. EK selling even F- Class between DXB and MRU)?

The Alize Cabin will be sold as Premium Economy? Or as Alize product?

I also heard about the decision to change the Premium Economy seats, not comfortable at all for night flights?

Do the COI 77W will have new seats in J- Class?


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