Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1677 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10348 times:
An Aserca Airlines MD-82 landing in -santo Domingo with 125 pax on board struck two cows on the runway.
Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries ( except for the poor cows, R.I.P. ).
Jokes aside, this is a major flaw from the airport, cows are not precisely small and fast moving animals like a rabbit, someone should see TWO cows on the runway while there are planes filled with people approaching the runway.
rleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 490 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10127 times:
SVZM Spotters - In the night of March 6, a McDonnell Douglas MD-80 of Aserca Airlines collided against a herd of cows while landing on runway 30 of Santo Domingo del Táchira Airport.
The aircraft registered as YV348T (serial number: 49120/1071) was operating flight 764 from Caracas. After the collision, the aircraft was stranded on the runway and its 125 passengers and 6 crew were evacuated safely.
Staff from the JIAAC (Junta de Investigación de Accidentes Aéreos) and Aserca Airlines assessed the damages to the aircraft. It was found out that most of the damage was in the left wing, slats, flaps and landing gear. The aircraft is going to be repaired and put back in service.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10067 times:
Quoting rleiro (Reply 1): Just to add a note Gonzalo: there were not two but five cows involved in the crash, out of a herd of 25 cows!
Saludos,
Roberto.
That is very sad for those cows as they have no clue where they were. The main question is: What the heck is a cow doing on a runway, let alone a herd!!! They shouldn't even be there!!! I mean, who is at fault here!?!
pipo777 From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 186 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9992 times:
Doesn't surprise me at all...Last week a few cows 'trespassed' near the 03L threshold at SVMC! last two times I went there I've seen an airport pick-up truck driving around the perimeter checking the fences near the runway...
Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1677 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9737 times:
Quoting rleiro (Reply 1): Just to add a note Gonzalo: there were not two but five cows involved in the crash, out of a herd of 25 cows!
OMG !!! 25 !!! So it was just luck that we are not talking about a major disaster here, if that cows were closer to the touch down point ( more speed = higher energy ) and they were impacted withe the nose gear instead the slats and flaps, the crew could easily loose control of the aircraft and we could have a different story with a major crash as a consequence.
Let's hope the authorities do something to avoid this kind of mishaps before something worst make the news.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 27 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9519 times:
Somebody should go to jail for this. The potential for disaster is just too great and there´s no excuse whatsoever for 25 cows to be on a runway envrionment. Not in Venezuela.
mmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 528 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9385 times:
Meh; the cows were grazing and were trying to reach the fresh stuff on the other side of the runway.
shit happens; but what can you do, beyond asking; "What's for dinner?"
kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11958 posts, RR: 37 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9360 times:
Isn't there a book written about the world's ideologies, by reference to "two cows". There has to be one for Chavezism, but it probably didn't involve an MD80.
Seriously, though; one cow, I'd understand; two cows, perhaps hard to see (I'm assuming this is night?), but a herd? I mean, the runway should be seen - and not herd (sorry!). Someone could have shouted moooove? (or, more accurately, vamoooose?)
727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5723 posts, RR: 20 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9297 times:
Comments section is pretty funny. I am assuming this was in daylight hours.
rleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 490 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9133 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 2): The main question is: What the heck is a cow doing on a runway, let alone a herd!!! They shouldn't even be there!!! I mean, who is at fault here!?!
The fence of the farm nearby the airport was somehow broken, that's how cows had the access to the runway.
Quoting pipo777 (Reply 3): Last week a few cows 'trespassed' near the 03L threshold at SVMC! last two times I went there I've seen an airport pick-up truck driving around the perimeter checking the fences near the runway...
Not long ago also Josefa Camejo in Paraguana had a similar incident: a Tiara Shorts 360 hit a donkey while taking off at night.
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 4): So it was just luck that we are not talking about a major disaster here, if that cows were closer to the touch down point ( more speed = higher energy ) and they were impacted withe the nose gear instead the slats and flaps, the crew could easily loose control of the aircraft and we could have a different story with a major crash as a consequence.
They were really lucky indeed.
Quoting AR385 (Reply 5): Somebody should go to jail for this.
The owner of the cows (a farmen whose plot is next to the airport) was pressed with charges.
Quoting mmedford (Reply 6): sh*t happens; but what can you do, beyond asking; "What's for dinner?"
The Commander of the flight, one of the most experienced senior MD-80 captains of Aserca has been nicknamed as El Carnicero (The Butcher).
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8): I am assuming this was in daylight hours.
It happened at night. The grass was too high and the control tower is located at the opposite of the runway.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 27 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8782 times:
Quoting rleiro (Reply 9): Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
Somebody should go to jail for this.
The owner of the cows (a farmen whose plot is next to the airport) was pressed with charges.
While fair, I meant someone from the airport. We had a cattle ranch growing up, and for a variety of reasons (much more secondary than being next to an airport) it´s really important for cattle to stay where you put them. So yes, the farmer is to blame, but someone from the airport too. At some point someone ought to have noticed that the guilty fence was not going to hold up. A well built fence, for a cattle operation, just does not simply give way.
Also, cattle hate asphalt. It damages their hoofs and there´s nothing to eat on asphalt. The herd was probably on the move, since five cows were hit. So again, this could have been much much worse.
Quoting rleiro (Reply 9): The Commander of the flight, one of the most experienced senior MD-80 captains of Aserca has been nicknamed as El Carnicero (The Butcher).
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2167 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7763 times:
First a Jeep in PHL, and now cows in S. America, who's checking the runways?
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
andrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 380 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7680 times:
It's not unlikely in Venezuela!!!!!!!! once my supervisor worked in venezuela and had his return flight cancelled due to cows who were on the runway and no one to remove them! I'm not sure if it was in Maracaibo or Ciudad Bolivar!
rleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 490 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7548 times:
Dogs, Goats, Donkeys, Cows, you name it, we have it!
But seriously speaking, authorities are working in order to repair the fences in those airports considered critical such as Maracaibo, Coro, Las Piedras and others so the risk of a runway incursion is reduced. However, from time to time we experience this type of events that, so far, are anecdotal rather than tragical.
CairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7273 times:
civilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6884 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 5): Somebody should go to jail for this.
What nobody has so far underlined is that is a Venezuelan Air Force base which allows for civilian flights, and definitely NOT a civilian airport. It is a military airlfield first and foremost with observation posts all around the airport area. It is beyond comprehension that being a military compound perimeter fences are not checked for cracks several times daily. This military base (Base Aérea Mayor Buenaventura Vivas) was opened in 1971 precisely to guarantee the safety of the frontier (in this case, Colombia, which is a few kilometres' distance away)
It seems the Venezuelan Air Force cannot even guarantee the safety of their own airfield.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5837 times:
A couple years back, MCO had a couple cows somehow get through a fence and onto the airfield property. Fortunately, they were nowhere near the runways or taxiways. There are fields all around MCO that have horses and cows grazing, so it must have been a decent sized hole where the cows got through.
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4724 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter): Jokes aside, this is a major flaw from the airport, cows are not precisely small and fast moving animals like a rabbit, someone should see TWO cows on the runway while there are planes filled with people approaching the runway
Hope passengers and crew are OK. Talk about a MI-STEAK! Were the bovines involved grilled wll done?
And, what were Oprah, Kirstie Alley and "Precious" doing in a restricted area such as an airport runway? Though this was not in the USA?
Jokes aside those cows are getting almost as stupid as most Spring Break and summer people passengers.
SSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter): Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries
Ascerca should still have quite the beef with the airport. After chuck-ing those cows 'round, they're lucky they were able to steer. Think of all the lives that were at steak. They ground up a whole herd with the front veals.
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4724 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5545 times:
Quoting SSTeve (Reply 22): Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries
Ascerca should still have quite the beef with the airport. After chuck-ing those cows 'round, they're lucky they were able to steer. Think of all the lives that were at steak. They ground up a whole herd with the front veals.
Sorry. I'm really milking this.
For those of you who are sense of humor challenged and officious political correctness Nazis DON'T HAVE A COW!
I understand some witnesses swear they say Jessica Simpson, Kristina Aguliera And Star Jones grazing in the way of that MD-82. A lot of celebrity bovine sightings are being reported more at 11!
AirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 613 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4818 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 5): Somebody should go to jail for this. The potential for disaster is just too great and there´s no excuse
Did the cows get a permission to enter the runway from the tower?
Seriously though, I would have thought that it is the job of the pilots and the tower to visually verify the runway is clear before landing. Assuming this was at day time, of course. But I don't think cows move around at night anyway.
25 AR385: It was at night. I would think it would be hard for the pilots to see anything resembling a cow from their landing position. During the day probably.
26 PanHAM: That's the Enron capitalism, it starts with : "You have one cow, you sell both to....." Looks like security at Venezoelan airports is not that great.
27 flightsimer: Its an udder shame that those heifers weren't able to moo-ve off of the runway in time. Its a good thing it wasn't a 737 though... or else there woul
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