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MD-82 Hits Two Cows On Landing At STD - Venezuela  
User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1985 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11549 times:

An Aserca Airlines MD-82 landing in -santo Domingo with 125 pax on board struck two cows on the runway.

Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries ( except for the poor cows, R.I.P. ).

Jokes aside, this is a major flaw from the airport, cows are not precisely small and fast moving animals like a rabbit, someone should see TWO cows on the runway while there are planes filled with people approaching the runway.

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Rgds.

G.


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User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11328 times:

SVZM Spotters - In the night of March 6, a McDonnell Douglas MD-80 of Aserca Airlines collided against a herd of cows while landing on runway 30 of Santo Domingo del Táchira Airport.

The aircraft registered as YV348T (serial number: 49120/1071) was operating flight 764 from Caracas. After the collision, the aircraft was stranded on the runway and its 125 passengers and 6 crew were evacuated safely.

Staff from the JIAAC (Junta de Investigación de Accidentes Aéreos) and Aserca Airlines assessed the damages to the aircraft. It was found out that most of the damage was in the left wing, slats, flaps and landing gear. The aircraft is going to be repaired and put back in service.

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Just to add a note Gonzalo: there were not two but five cows involved in the crash, out of a herd of 25 cows!

Saludos,

Roberto.

[Edited 2012-03-09 07:53:21]

[Edited 2012-03-09 07:53:41]


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9768 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11268 times:

Quoting rleiro (Reply 1):
Just to add a note Gonzalo: there were not two but five cows involved in the crash, out of a herd of 25 cows!

Saludos,

Roberto.

That is very sad for those cows as they have no clue where they were. The main question is: What the heck is a cow doing on a runway, let alone a herd!!! They shouldn't even be there!!! I mean, who is at fault here!?!

A388


User currently offlinepipo777 From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11193 times:

Doesn't surprise me at all...Last week a few cows 'trespassed' near the 03L threshold at SVMC! last two times I went there I've seen an airport pick-up truck driving around the perimeter checking the fences near the runway...

User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1985 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10938 times:

Quoting rleiro (Reply 1):
Just to add a note Gonzalo: there were not two but five cows involved in the crash, out of a herd of 25 cows!

OMG !!! 25 !!! So it was just luck that we are not talking about a major disaster here, if that cows were closer to the touch down point ( more speed = higher energy ) and they were impacted withe the nose gear instead the slats and flaps, the crew could easily loose control of the aircraft and we could have a different story with a major crash as a consequence.
Let's hope the authorities do something to avoid this kind of mishaps before something worst make the news.

G.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6175 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10720 times:
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Somebody should go to jail for this. The potential for disaster is just too great and there´s no excuse whatsoever for 25 cows to be on a runway envrionment. Not in Venezuela.


MGGS
User currently offlinemmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 561 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10586 times:

Meh; the cows were grazing and were trying to reach the fresh stuff on the other side of the runway.

shit happens; but what can you do, beyond asking; "What's for dinner?"



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10561 times:

Isn't there a book written about the world's ideologies, by reference to "two cows". There has to be one for Chavezism, but it probably didn't involve an MD80.

Seriously, though; one cow, I'd understand; two cows, perhaps hard to see (I'm assuming this is night?), but a herd? I mean, the runway should be seen - and not herd (sorry!). Someone could have shouted moooove? (or, more accurately, vamoooose?)


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10498 times:

Comments section is pretty funny. I am assuming this was in daylight hours.


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10334 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
The main question is: What the heck is a cow doing on a runway, let alone a herd!!! They shouldn't even be there!!! I mean, who is at fault here!?!

The fence of the farm nearby the airport was somehow broken, that's how cows had the access to the runway.

Quoting pipo777 (Reply 3):
Last week a few cows 'trespassed' near the 03L threshold at SVMC! last two times I went there I've seen an airport pick-up truck driving around the perimeter checking the fences near the runway...

Not long ago also Josefa Camejo in Paraguana had a similar incident: a Tiara Shorts 360 hit a donkey while taking off at night.

Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 4):
So it was just luck that we are not talking about a major disaster here, if that cows were closer to the touch down point ( more speed = higher energy ) and they were impacted withe the nose gear instead the slats and flaps, the crew could easily loose control of the aircraft and we could have a different story with a major crash as a consequence.

They were really lucky indeed.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
Somebody should go to jail for this.

The owner of the cows (a farmen whose plot is next to the airport) was pressed with charges.

Quoting mmedford (Reply 6):
sh*t happens; but what can you do, beyond asking; "What's for dinner?"

The Commander of the flight, one of the most experienced senior MD-80 captains of Aserca has been nicknamed as El Carnicero (The Butcher).

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
I am assuming this was in daylight hours.

It happened at night. The grass was too high and the control tower is located at the opposite of the runway.

Saludos,

Roberto.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9768 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 10230 times:

Quoting rleiro (Reply 9):
The fence of the farm nearby the airport was somehow broken, that's how cows had the access to the runway.

So the airport authorities (or airport operator) will get the bill for fixing that MD80 I would assume?

A388


User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 10126 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 10):
So the airport authorities (or airport operator) will get the bill for fixing that MD80 I would assume?

I guess the insurance will pay for it, and it looks like that'll be a hefty onel.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6175 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9983 times:
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Quoting rleiro (Reply 9):
Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
Somebody should go to jail for this.

The owner of the cows (a farmen whose plot is next to the airport) was pressed with charges.

While fair, I meant someone from the airport. We had a cattle ranch growing up, and for a variety of reasons (much more secondary than being next to an airport) it´s really important for cattle to stay where you put them. So yes, the farmer is to blame, but someone from the airport too. At some point someone ought to have noticed that the guilty fence was not going to hold up. A well built fence, for a cattle operation, just does not simply give way.

Also, cattle hate asphalt. It damages their hoofs and there´s nothing to eat on asphalt. The herd was probably on the move, since five cows were hit. So again, this could have been much much worse.

Quoting rleiro (Reply 9):
The Commander of the flight, one of the most experienced senior MD-80 captains of Aserca has been nicknamed as El Carnicero (The Butcher).

LOL. Only in LATAM!

[Edited 2012-03-09 14:05:58]


MGGS
User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9866 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 12):
So yes, the farmer is to blame, but someone from the airport too.

That won't happen unfortunately, you're right but...



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8964 times:

First a Jeep in PHL, and now cows in S. America, who's checking the runways?  


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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8881 times:

It's not unlikely in Venezuela!!!!!!!! once my supervisor worked in venezuela and had his return flight cancelled due to cows who were on the runway and no one to remove them! I'm not sure if it was in Maracaibo or Ciudad Bolivar!

User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Dogs, Goats, Donkeys, Cows, you name it, we have it!

But seriously speaking, authorities are working in order to repair the fences in those airports considered critical such as Maracaibo, Coro, Las Piedras and others so the risk of a runway incursion is reduced. However, from time to time we experience this type of events that, so far, are anecdotal rather than tragical.

Saludos,

Roberto.



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User currently offlinekearnet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8621 times:

Must..........resist.........making...........cattle class.........joke.....grrrrr

User currently offlineCairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8474 times:

Must....resist....making.....double quarter pounder............joke.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

User currently offlinecivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8085 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
Somebody should go to jail for this.

What nobody has so far underlined is that is a Venezuelan Air Force base which allows for civilian flights, and definitely NOT a civilian airport. It is a military airlfield first and foremost with observation posts all around the airport area. It is beyond comprehension that being a military compound perimeter fences are not checked for cracks several times daily. This military base (Base Aérea Mayor Buenaventura Vivas) was opened in 1971 precisely to guarantee the safety of the frontier (in this case, Colombia, which is a few kilometres' distance away)

It seems the Venezuelan Air Force cannot even guarantee the safety of their own airfield.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7038 times:

A couple years back, MCO had a couple cows somehow get through a fence and onto the airfield property. Fortunately, they were nowhere near the runways or taxiways. There are fields all around MCO that have horses and cows grazing, so it must have been a decent sized hole where the cows got through.

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Jokes aside, this is a major flaw from the airport, cows are not precisely small and fast moving animals like a rabbit, someone should see TWO cows on the runway while there are planes filled with people approaching the runway

Hope passengers and crew are OK. Talk about a MI-STEAK! Were the bovines involved grilled wll done?
And, what were Oprah, Kirstie Alley and "Precious" doing in a restricted area such as an airport runway? Though this was not in the USA?

Jokes aside those cows are getting almost as stupid as most Spring Break and summer people passengers.
  



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User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries

Ascerca should still have quite the beef with the airport. After chuck-ing those cows 'round, they're lucky they were able to steer. Think of all the lives that were at steak. They ground up a whole herd with the front veals.

Sorry. I'm really milking this.

[Edited 2012-03-09 21:26:36]

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6746 times:

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 22):
Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Damages to landing gear and flaps, but fortunately no injuries

Ascerca should still have quite the beef with the airport. After chuck-ing those cows 'round, they're lucky they were able to steer. Think of all the lives that were at steak. They ground up a whole herd with the front veals.

Sorry. I'm really milking this.

  

For those of you who are sense of humor challenged and officious political correctness Nazis DON'T HAVE A COW!

I understand some witnesses swear they say Jessica Simpson, Kristina Aguliera And Star Jones grazing in the way of that MD-82. A lot of celebrity bovine sightings are being reported more at 11!



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6019 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
Somebody should go to jail for this. The potential for disaster is just too great and there´s no excuse

Did the cows get a permission to enter the runway from the tower?

Seriously though, I would have thought that it is the job of the pilots and the tower to visually verify the runway is clear before landing. Assuming this was at day time, of course. But I don't think cows move around at night anyway.


25 AR385 : It was at night. I would think it would be hard for the pilots to see anything resembling a cow from their landing position. During the day probably.
26 PanHAM : That's the Enron capitalism, it starts with : "You have one cow, you sell both to....." Looks like security at Venezoelan airports is not that great.
27 flightsimer : Its an udder shame that those heifers weren't able to moo-ve off of the runway in time. Its a good thing it wasn't a 737 though... or else there woul
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