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UA/CO Crews' Access And Use Of Crew Bases At Hubs  
User currently offlineChicagoflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Does anyone know if United and ex-Continental flight crews, both pilots and flight attendants have access to and have begun using each others' crew bases at their hub airports ?

Are ex-Con flight crews using crew base facilities at ORD,LAX,IAD,SFO, and DEN ?

And are United flight crews using base facilities at IAH,EWR, and CLE ?

oh and if any of you that read this are UA or ex-Con crews I would like to know what your experiences are and have been at the new bases . CHEERS

[Edited 2012-03-09 09:38:07]

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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6180 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

I would think with all the upcoming cross fleeting that they would have to staff UA and CO crews through PMUA and PMCO hubs respectively. They haven't merged work groups just yet.

Although in some cases they are in luck because both airlines had bases at the same airports including LAX and NYC.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 1):
I would think with all the upcoming cross fleeting that they would have to staff UA and CO crews through PMUA and PMCO hubs respectively.

sUA and sCO (the small 's' standing for subsidiary) use their own crews to operate their own metal at this time. There has been no integration of crews as of yet. There are rumors of sCO opening up bases (for pilots at this time) in sUA bases because of the amount of flying that has increased through traditional UA hubs, as well as from the sUA side, opening pilot bases at traditional CO hubs.

As for inflight, we wait to be integrated. As we did in the previous merger (PE/FL/CO/NY), it is a game of time. Until that happens, we utilize our own bases facilities. Personally, I can't wait for the integration. New faces, new places, new planes (new to me, not the actual age of them). My philosophy is to just roll with it and do what I can to the best that I can with what I am given.

I have yet to see a sUA base facility, but I run into UA crews all over the system and am welcomed, said hello to/said hello to them and everything has been 100% friendly. Even when I deal with UA agents as a CO crew. Maybe its me and how I deal with things, but I have yet to have a bad experience. I never had a bad problem with the merger in '87.

CO still has IAH/EWR/CLE/GUM as FA bases and CO pilots have all those and LAX.

No matter what plane you see me on or route I am working, you will get a welcome aboard and thank you for flying United.


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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3642 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

sUA had an EWR base pre merger IIRC so the only new bases I could see them open would be IAH and possibly CLE, but given the nature of CLE I don't see the need for additional staffing there, so you are left with IAH.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):

sUA had an EWR base pre merger IIRC so the only new bases I could see them open would be IAH and possibly CLE, but given the nature of CLE I don't see the need for additional staffing there, so you are left with IAH.

The EWR base for sUA was closed, however, they still have a JFK base and EWR is considered a co-terminal, any EWR flying, hypothetically, could be flown from UAs JFK base.

There are rumors that a UA pilot A319/A320 base may open in IAH (key word: rumor). Again, no words on inflight bases from either side.


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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6180 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 4):

Aren't there rumors about a PMUA 767 EWR base as well? Or can that also be covered by the JFK base?


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 5):
Aren't there rumors about a PMUA 767 EWR base as well? Or can that also be covered by the JFK base?

For pilots, there maybe, yes. Because of the EWR-ZRH/IST/EZE flights (and more, I am sure). They may since they fly the 757 out of JFK and the 757/767 are lumped into the same group, they just may further open that base for more flying (personal observation, not fact).


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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2168 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 5):
Aren't there rumors about a PMUA 767 EWR base as well? Or can that also be covered by the JFK base?

Yes. EWR is a coterminal of the JFK B756 base and as soon as enough crews are current on the 767s and international-qualified, they will begin to cover the EWR-ZRH/EZE/IST routes as well as 757 flying originating at EWR.

As it stands right now, there are not enough JFK pilots current on the 767 and international-qualified to cover the flying.

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6180 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 7):
As it stands right now, there are not enough JFK pilots current on the 767 and international-qualified to cover the flying.

Well then I would guess at the very least IAD 767 crews and funnel into EWR to cover the flights...

But eventually that would mean opening an actual 763 EWR base since CO 767 pilots can't fly PMUA aircraft yet?


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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2168 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):


Well then I would guess at the very least IAD 767 crews and funnel into EWR to cover the flights...

They operate the trips as follows: Day 1 IAD-ZRH/ Day 3 ZRH-EWR/ Day 4 EWR-ZRH/ Day 6 ZRH-IAD, same with BRU. When EZE and IST start, they will likely be with JFK crews originating at EWR.

Very soon, there will be enough pilots trained and qualfied to cover the trips, so it won't be an issue. It takes approximately 5-6 weeks between training and IOE rides to get a pilot from square 1 on a new type to flying the line.

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