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Former N/S Runway At MAD  
User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2035 posts, RR: 15
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Hi all, in looking at aerial photos on Google Earth of Madrid's Barajas airport, I had a few questions about the (now disused) 18/36 runway:

- When did this runway close? It was being used for takeoffs when I visited MAD for the first time in the summer of 1998. Obviously I know why it closed (to make room for the new Terminal 4) but I wasn't sure when it was deactivated.
- Was it ever used in conjunction with the newer north-south runways?
- Was it just used for takeoffs to the north, or did it handle landings from the south as well? It looks like landing aircraft would pass low over some areas of San Fernando de Henares, which I can't imagine would be too popular.

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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2630 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Thread starter):
- When did this runway close? It was being used for takeoffs when I visited MAD for the first time in the summer of 1998. Obviously I know why it closed (to make room for the new Terminal 4) but I wasn't sure when it was deactivated.

You were among the last to use it. It closed nov 1998 when the new 18R-36L started operating.

Quoting jsnww81 (Thread starter):
- Was it ever used in conjunction with the newer north-south runways?

Nope - see previous question. During construction of T4 and 18L-36R & 15L-33R, MAD operated with the new 18R/36L and old 15/33. This was already a big improvement over the previous config as the runways no longer intersected in the middle, and could be operated independently with one handling take-off and the other landings.

Quoting jsnww81 (Thread starter):
- Was it just used for takeoffs to the north, or did it handle landings from the south as well?

Typically in MAD take-offs are to the north on the 36's, landings come in from the south on the 33's. However there are days every once in a while where winds change and operations are exactly inversed. So I assume that back in the days of the old MAD, it was no different.


User currently offlinemichi From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 1):
You were among the last to use it. It closed nov 1998 when the new 18R-36L started operating.


Well, I logged a landing on 18L in April 2003. This 18L was the now closed 18/36. Not the new one.

I still remember this approach. A lot of construction was going on for the satellite on our right hand side. We were quite close to the obstacles.


Regards,

Michi

[Edited 2012-03-11 09:59:29]

User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2035 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 1):
Typically in MAD take-offs are to the north on the 36's, landings come in from the south on the 33's. However there are days every once in a while where winds change and operations are exactly inversed. So I assume that back in the days of the old MAD, it was no different.

Thanks for the info! I was actually wondering if landings were ever made on runway 36 rather than on 33 (which seems to the usual case at MAD.) I went back on Google Earth (using the "historical imagery" feature) to 2000 and there appear to be some tire marks on the southern end of the runway. Was it used often for landings?


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