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AA And US Buying Joint Domain Names For Merger?  
User currently offlinebigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21857 times:

If the pile of domain names they just purchased is an indication, a merger may be imminent. Or maybe just protecting them in case?

http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/03/a...ain-name-purchases-to-be-believed/ [NYCAviation]

Hmmmmmm....


Phil Derner Jr.
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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21792 times:

Anyone could have bought them...

Doesn't mean much methinks...



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3461 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21785 times:

Interesting, but too new to say for sure, seems like it will spark 101 rumors of the proposed nuptials.


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User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21773 times:



Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 1):
Anyone could have bought them...

The registrar that the buyer (or buyers) used indicates that it wasn't just anyone.

[Edited 2012-03-12 09:30:39]

User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5312 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21764 times:

It could be anything from serious discussion talks to one airline or the other simply buying potential names, before a computer geek thought to do so and then hold a domain hostage for a kings ransom.

If you type in AA.net, it winds up at a Sprint Mobile website (go figure), while AA.org is the website of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Remember that Tom Horton has said that AA isn't looking to merge with another airline, but there have been discussions with TPG about the possibility of an investment in AA, post Chaper 11. If I remember correctly, TPG (when it was Texas Pacific Group) invested in Continental after its last bankruptcy.


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21595 times:

If it's to be believed, I like the 'AAdvantage of US' tagline.

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3180 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21529 times:

I have to admit that it us highly unlikely that someone would go purchase a domain called: "oneworldoneairline.com" or the "advantageofus.com". Those are highly creative names, names that an ordinary person would not come up with.

One world. One airline....sounds clever!



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User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21442 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 4):
Remember that Tom Horton has said that AA isn't looking to merge with another airline

Why should anyone believe a word this man says?


User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1828 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 21089 times:

Quoting gothamspotter (Reply 3):
The registrar that the buyer (or buyers) used indicates that it wasn't just anyone.

No it doesn't. The registrar's of the sites are all the anonymous intermediaries. You can pay $10 a year to hide your info from the whois registry.

They were all registered through this intermediary: https://www.markmonitor.com/

Which is NOT the intermidiary that AA or US use on their own sites. Yes, this doesn't mean it was not them, but there is no proof that it is them. Unless you have a means to bypass the privacy on that account then you can't be certain.

Also, saying that the last few were "too creative to be a scammer" is a lame excuse. Any person with some marketing talent could easily have come up with those names.

[Edited 2012-03-12 10:33:44]

User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7567 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 21075 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 4):
Remember that Tom Horton has said that AA isn't looking to merge with another airline,

Doug Steenland said the same thing when it came to NW... look how that turned out.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 21057 times:

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 8):
Which is NOT the intermidiary that AA or US use on their own sites. Yes, this doesn't mean it was not them, but there is no proof that it is them. Unless you have a means to bypass the privacy on that account then you can't be certain.

MarkMonitor is a brand protection servicer that does not purchase domain names without proof of brand ownership, which is why this move is interesting.



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User currently offlineEricR From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20954 times:

This may be nothing more than an individual purchasing the domain names based purely on speculation in hopes of making a few dollars if the merger comes to fruition AND the airline is willing to buy the domain name. This is not uncommon. On the flip side, it is an interesting topic and could be an indication of things to come......I guess time will tell.

User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3702 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20861 times:

A cheap insurance premium if you ask me.


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User currently onlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20587 times:

If they were going to merge why would they want a url with both airlines names in them? Was there a northwestdelta.com or more relevantly a usairamericawest.org?!

User currently offlinebigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20587 times:

Quoting EricR (Reply 11):
This may be nothing more than an individual purchasing the domain names based purely on speculation in hopes of making a few dollars if the merger comes to fruition AND the airline is willing to buy the domain name. This is not uncommon. On the flip side, it is an interesting topic and could be an indication of things to come......I guess time will tell.

Many seem to not be reading, noting that this was not bought by some random person...those involved have proven to be related to those brands.



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20559 times:

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 8):
No it doesn't. The registrar's of the sites are all the anonymous intermediaries. You can pay $10 a year to hide your info from the whois registry.

You must have missed the part where the article laid out explicitly how MarkMonitor is not just an anonymous intermediary.

Quoting EricR (Reply 11):
This may be nothing more than an individual purchasing the domain names based purely on speculation in hopes of making a few dollars if the merger comes to fruition AND the airline is willing to buy the domain name.

You must have not read it at all.  


User currently offlineNUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20467 times:

Maybe they were purchased by Southwest...


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User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20367 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 13):
If they were going to merge why would they want a url with both airlines names in them? Was there a northwestdelta.com or more relevantly a usairamericawest.org?!

For merger related information, they can outline the process and progress on a separate website that ties both brands together.


User currently offlineEricR From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20363 times:

Quoting gothamspotter (Reply 15):
Quoting EricR (Reply 11):
This may be nothing more than an individual purchasing the domain names based purely on speculation in hopes of making a few dollars if the merger comes to fruition AND the airline is willing to buy the domain name.

You must have not read it at all.

Oooops. You are right.

Could be very interesting times ahead.


User currently offlinemilemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1074 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20236 times:

Personally I think this indicates nothing.

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6936 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20220 times:

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 5):

aadvantageofus.com doesn't exactly sound like a scammer in the making either...

too hard to tell at this point. I still wonder if/when US will leave star for OW?



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User currently offlinemalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20157 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 6):

Actually the One world, One Airline was one of my slogans years ago with my FS virtual airline. so I am a common person and did use that slogan



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User currently offlinegustywinds From Armenia, joined Feb 2012, 143 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20136 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 13):
If they were going to merge why would they want a url with both airlines names in them? Was there a northwestdelta.com or more relevantly a usairamericawest.org?!

Frontier and Midwest did have frontiermidwest.com when they announced the merger of the two brands.

I believe there is credibility with the AA and US domain names. Show me a combined AA and any other airline out there (DL, UA, AS) domain and then I'll think it's people squatting on domain names just in case.


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 19855 times:

Something tells me that a merger announcement in imminent ... it's a gut feeling. With the domain provider requiring proof that the purchasing party is related to the companies involved ... this feels legit.

User currently offlineAAExecplat From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 636 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 19760 times:

I have said this all along...If AA and US want to thrive, they will have to merge...no way around it. The fleet synergies (especially once the MDs are gone) are substantial, and the route network largely complementary. DL and UA are just too big to take on for AA or US and their network dwarfs that of their smaller brethren.

Only a combination with a subsequent redeployment of equipment and consolidation of the merged airline into OW will be what will get them to be competitive for corporate contacts. Of course, reducing the landscape to three legacies will also increase fares and pricing power, which the legacies will need in the face of rising oil prices.

It's simple math. I expect the AA name and brand to survive, the headquarters to be based in DFW, and the US team to lead the merged airline.

I am certain we'll see an announcement after the employment contracts have either been renegotiated...that means right as AA will be exiting bk.

As a long-time EXP, this scenario obviously carries significant potential issues for me...


25 Post contains links premobrimo : This confirms that US Airways DID in-fact purchase the domain names.... "The purchase of these domain names, along with other potential transaction na
26 Post contains images jporterfi : WN purchase AA? Was that meant as a joke? We just saw that WN plans to get rid of FL's 717s; what would they do with all of the aircraft types that A
27 ripcordd : I think people may read too much into it...If the 2 combine AA will be the brand name that stays and they own aa.com already so no need to buy any mor
28 USAirALB : These wouldn't be the actual websites. It would more be a website regarding merger information. Kinda like when US had "transformingusairways.com"
29 ouboy79 : With more money than most majors if I recall right. 717s aren't going anywhere fast...still got a few years. They'll probably still be in the fleet a
30 Blueman87 : If true that is true Bring Back TWA
31 TOMMY767 : HAH! Reading between the lines that basically means, "We'll be merging with American eventually." I agree.
32 joelyboy911 : If they bought all the domain names mentioned in the article, then "oneworldoneairline" is a big stretch to fit in with the explanation of: "ensure o
33 ckfred : Because making false statements to the media, creditors, attorneys, etc. doesn't sit well with a federal judge. Besides, Horton actually made some st
34 CIDFlyer : I hope they go for it, would make a nice route map IMHO. would shore up up weaknesses in regions across the country for each airline (ie southeast for
35 Post contains images rampart : Interesting development... Sounds like communism to me. Perhaps they should register AAeroflot while they're at it. TPG has been involved in a number
36 NC1844V : I sure hope you're right on this one. I know there are a lot of people out there that have dislikes for AA, but being from Texas I sure do not want t
37 Confuscius : What would the merged airline called, US American Airlines?
38 HKG212 : Sorry guys, don't mean to offend anyone, but this is one of the most absurd threads I have seen on this forum... you don't need to be a marketing gei
39 Aloha717200 : Well. US purchased the names, so. On a different note, isn't it interesting to pause and think about how a small LCC from the 80s managed to grow and
40 ouboy79 : So what's your opinion of the slogan "Fly with US" hmm? lol Umm duh? Doug was ready to rename US Airways into Delta if that worked. Go with the bigge
41 AAIL86 : Well it's not a secret that the board of US Airways is itching for a merger, the question is how open are AA to one. Certainly it's no surprise that
42 HKG212 : Seems very amateurish, to say the least. I'm wondring if it's even true.
43 Aloha717200 : You need to read the last paragraph of the article. US confirmed that they purchased the names.
44 HKG212 : Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
45 Aloha717200 : Do you have a better source?
46 HKG212 : Common sense. Look, even if someone at US actually made this move, I still maintain it's as dumb and amateurish as anything I have ever seen in airli
47 Squid : Well, the purchase of these domain names means nothing, but personally, I think a merger is in the works. I think that the AA management is looking at
48 cofannyc : But common sense says that your theory makes no sense. One of the following must be true in your scenario: 1) A US Airways spokesperson just lied. 2)
49 EricR : You are misunderstanding the purpose of these domain names. The purpose of these domain names is not intended to be a replacement of the existing dom
50 bos2laf : Let's be clear, these are NOT potential airline names, and they would have to be snorting coke to come up with that garbage as a name for the company
51 HKG212 : Try looking up any such name combination domains involving United, Continental, Mileage Plus and OnePass. I can't find any. Google can sort out any p
52 TSS : Thank you, Premobrimo. That confirms what I've suspected was the case since this thread began. Apparently it is a legitimate purchase of domain names
53 Post contains links EricR : See link below. Also, note the expiration date on the domain name. "unitedcontinentalmerger.com expired on 02/15/2012 and is pending renewal or delet
54 flyguy89 : ...and in other news, there's a dictator in North Korea whose first name is Kim. Seriously, this would be more newsworthy if AA had been the ones purc
55 Post contains images nycdave : It's rare that I ever get "inside information" but a friend with some connections in AA's C-suite is saying "Looks like the US Airways / American Airl
56 VS11 : A buy-out being a key word here. Not sure how close TPG and US Airways are but TPG could bring US Airways as part of an equity-sponsor group. Would b
57 Aloha717200 : My main beef with an AA/US merger is that I feel that their corporate cultures clash in a big way. It'll be interesting to see how that works itself o
58 AA767400 : Domain or no domain, a US/AA tip up is very likely in my opinion. Most speak of a gain for AA in the Southeast with CLT, and the Northeast with PHL. N
59 rj777 : The bigger question is going to be.... which alliance... Star or OneWorld.
60 Post contains links YULWinterSkies : What's the point of a new domain name for a merger? Hint: hit www.continental.com or www.nwa.com No need to get any new domain name.
61 YTZ : With United so big in the USA, I can't see Star. It'll be Oneworld.
62 YTZ : The post-merger fleet mix, if this goes through, is going to be pretty interesting..... I'll suggest that this might hurt Boeing more than Airbus.
63 qf002 : The registered domains give no indication of what the brand would be called (should such a merger happen). You'll find that many brands safeguard agai
64 HKG212 : As many have asked before, how does that sit with MIA and JFK/LGA? there is no geographical synergy here. Apart from labor, incompatible fleets, inco
65 D L X : People, this is all very similar to what US did right before it launched its hostile takeover attempt of Delta. If I am not mistaken, when US first an
66 Indy : As someone who has worked in the industry off and on for a very long time I can tell you that the purchase of these domain names means absolutely noth
67 ual777uk : Agreed. No question, thats a gimme. If this deal ever happen, IF, US will be going the same way as CO, with AA the surviving name.
68 rampart : Or, as placeholder domain names that redirect someone to the correct page. Remember when southwest.com took someone to a tool company? (or something,
69 aztrainer : They could use it as a transitional site until they decide what to call the merged airlines. IF this is a true discussion, it would be interesting to
70 MLI717fan : While I agree with what you are saying... I hate the sound of it, this merger mania reminds me of what happened with the large US banks a few years a
71 packcheer : Just thought i'd mention it here since I see it having some impact on the discussion... It seems that many combinations of AA and United and Delta are
72 Post contains images ETinCaribe : US and A - Borat called it first Can they really be called One World Airline - that would be confusing w/ the alliance and would probably not sit wel
73 26point2 : Two horrible airlines merging do not make one good airline. Quite the opposite I think.
74 packcheer : I think that's the point we're all getting at. If you look at some of the odd names that were registered it may hint at something bigger. Who is goin
75 Rising : Typically that type of arrangement brings in more revenue, but it generally does not help you reduce costs, and it certainly does not help you reduce
76 Post contains links lymanm : UPDATE: It was USAirways that registered them (per WSJ), and they have since registered other "combined" names: american-deltaairlines.com, .net, and
77 fcogafa : I think the phrase 'WTF' covers this issue!
78 TWA1985 : I think that US, or AA, never intended the domain name purchases to leak over the weekend and now they are in "emergency cover-up" mode to try and kee
79 nycdave : Exactly -- while I'm sure things are "moving forward", that hardly means it's a done deal, as we've seen before with US buyout/merger attempts. I'm s
80 777STL : I think this means absolutely nothing. Could US and AA merge? Absolutely. Does buying a bunch of domain names indicate a potential merger? Doubtful. D
81 TWA1985 : American is hemorrhaging and the shark smells blood. The shark, that is US Airways, is going in for the kill!
82 Indy : It really isn't that big of a deal. Its just a little bit of internet housekeeping. They are doing nothing more than keeping illegitimate users from
83 ckfred : I can't remember which cable channel I was watching last night, but the crawler said that US had bought the domains. The fact that AA, American, AAdva
84 koruman : Absolutely, isn't this just plain obvious? American has no future as a stand-alone carrier, it is quite literally bankrupt. And while it will be take
85 Post contains images yeelep : More likely a mutated ill tempered sea bass.
86 TSS : Are you suggesting that no airline has ever emerged from Chapter 11 stronger and more competitive than it was before reorganizing under bankruptcy pr
87 Squid : That is true, but one thing to keep in mind though is that NWA, USAirways, and to a lesser extent Delta, didn't have hubs that were facing heavy comp
88 AAIL86 : Not sure I agree with you. In all fairness to Minneapolis, Memphis, Phoenix, Charlotte, Salt Lake City and my hometown of Detroit - American has just
89 Post contains links anfromme : ATW have this short piece on a potential US/AA merger. Doug Parker has apparently spoken out, dismissed said merger as rumour and speculation... and y
90 traindoc : AA and US merging would make sense as they both have terrible labor relations. Looks like a race to the bottom. Their merger could actually make the n
91 BNE : I would think that US Airways will jump to Oneworld then eventually merge with American. The only thing I can see is that US Airways has got a lot of
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