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Austrian: "All Signs Point To VO Transfer"  
User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9973 times:

From today's Die Presse:

-Pilots reject Sparpaket (Savings Package)
-Negotiations have ended
-Transfer of operations to Tyrolean (VO) is likely, but with a termination cost in the hundreds of millions (unemployment benefits, etc.)
-4 777s to be acquired
-11 737s to be sold (the entire 737 fleet) for A320s
-New destinations (HEL, LCA, ATH, etc) are possible

Sorry, only in German
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft...en?_vl_backlink=%2Fhome%2Findex.do

42 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1353 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9518 times:

I got friends at OS, and frankly I think the employees have given enough in recent years. I recall atleast 3 rounds of cuts, with the gun to employee heads including the more recent pressure Lufthansa placed on employees in order to clear the OS takeover in 2009 under threat of shutting airline down.

Seems to be the bigger problem is not cost, but revenue, and or the business model. Maybe its true Austria cannot support a intercontinental airline, and maybe whatever OS becomes it instead should focus on maybe being a small European carrier solely with O&D markets from Vienna and forget the transit 6th freedom game once and for all.

It gets rather tiring however to continue to lay the blame and look for cuts from the staff year after year. To me something else needs to happen, and maybe starting fresh with VO is the needed strategic move.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9416 times:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 1):
To me something else needs to happen, and maybe starting fresh with VO is the needed strategic move.

I have to agree. Creating a new airline out of VO is probably the best way forward. I look forward to a new, prosperous and cost efficient Austrian. So, I hope this works. It did at LX, so my fingers are crossed.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9041 times:

A quote that I missed yesterday:

"His greatest pressure is also coming from Dubai: Emirates is advertising [positions] to OS Pilots"

The point being that if OS does transfer operations to VO, many OS pilots my refuse and quit, leaving OS with a staff shortage at a critical moment. Pilots might also be allowed three years of future pay if OS terminates them. About 500k€ per pilot, depending on rank.

[Edited 2012-03-13 01:37:15]

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8972 times:

What I do not get is why OS should get more 777 - isn't that aircraft too big for a rather small market?

User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 3):
Emirates is advertising [positions] to OS Pilots"

Emirates plans to recruit some 450 or so pilots this year and has changed the entry terms.

Quote:
"One change to Emirates pilot recruitment this year is that we will be hiring experienced pilot into captain roles within the organisation. Previously, all pilots, regardless of experience and qualifications, joined in the First Officer roles.

How many OS pilots would be tempted by this offer?


User currently offlineCyba From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7784 times:

Quoting LOWS (Thread starter):
-New destinations (HEL, LCA, ATH, etc) are possible

What does that mean? OS already flies to LCA and ATH.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9269 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7721 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 2):
I have to agree. Creating a new airline out of VO is probably the best way forward. I look forward to a new, prosperous and cost efficient Austrian. So, I hope this works. It did at LX, so my fingers are crossed.

The fundamental difference is that SR was bancrupt and LH could start a clean sheet airline with LX. It will be difficult to pull that trick with OS., hence the millions it will cost to re-organise the carrier.

They should have bought Niki Lauda years ago, pay him 5 Million€ a year and let him fly whatever hours per month he pleases, plus keep his job as RTL F1 commentator with the provision not to start another airline and advise OS on how to run an airline effficiently.

Thje problem is, Niki would never have done that deal.   He has much more fun starting new, lean clean sheet airlines competing with OS.



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User currently offlineka From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 660 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7297 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 7):
The fundamental difference is that SR was bancrupt and LH could start a clean sheet airline with LX.

That was done to LX years before LH bought them.
Most fundamental steps were taken well before LH looked into them.

Ka.



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User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1986 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

OS needs an even simpler fleet than that. I'd say CSeries and 787s. That's it. The airline is basically Vienna airways. If you live in Salzburg, you're far more likely to take the train to Munich for a long haul flight, than go through Wien. There needs to be some recognition of this reality. 777s are too big for OS. I think it would make more sense for OS to focus on more destinations with smaller metal.

User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9269 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6973 times:

Quoting ka (Reply 8):
That was done to LX years before LH bought them.

"years" is exaggerting, there have been secret negotiations between LH and various parties in these "years" which resulted in the pruchase of a lean carrier. LH had little to do with the legacy of Swissair, that makes the difference now with OS. LH cannot let OS go bancrupt and start with Tyrolean d/b/a Austrian the next day. Buying people out of their jobs is a costyl adventure in Europe.



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User currently offlineAquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 7):
They should have bought Niki Lauda years ago, pay him 5 Million€ a year and let him fly whatever hours per month he pleases, plus keep his job as RTL F1 commentator with the provision not to start another airline and advise OS on how to run an airline effficiently.

I do not ubderstand what you are saying. If you mean that the problems of OS are due to "the bad" concurrents, sorry I do not agree.
OS is the shame of *A in europe, at least. Fly Niky give you often a better product for the same of better price.
I belive it is entirely an OS problem, coming from their own people.
From their management, that mismanaged with the fleet, down through all the low level - employees.
They show always bad attitude with the customers (epecially non Austrians) and here the difference with the smart Niky people is abyssal. And now that they are in trouble, in place of starting to work better and harder in order to save their ass, they stat to arrass people with carry-on luggage limitations, in the worst ULCC style.
You might understand that with a full fare ticket in the pocket, it is not pleasant to be arrassed all the times (without reason as the scale proves ) mybe just because your non-arian look .

I hope they close down this circus ASAP and more than all that the taxpayers will not have to cover their failures.
Somebody will pick up their place, even FR or sure EZ would be much better.
Please



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9269 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6537 times:

What I was saying is basically that they have a feud with Niki Lauda ever since he dared to start his own airline in Austria in competition with OS. Instead of fighting him they should have teamed up with him.

However, that would not have worked., Lauda is someone who does not take orders and instructions, he cannot play in a team, that's why he builds up companies and sells them when they run profitably.

The biggest mistake whoich AUA did nowever was to buy Lauda Air and kept it running under stat name. I would have to go back into the details for which I don't have the time, but they ar still suffering from that today. The contract must have been bad as well, they should have written in the contract that Lauda is not allowed to run another airline for 10 years at least, they could obviously not imagine that this old fox sztarted one with his first name, better nick name. "Nikolausi" would still be an option. . .

I doubt that Lauda Air would hjave survived , but by all means, they had a damn good service, especially in J class.



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User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 3):
The point being that if OS does transfer operations to VO, many OS pilots my refuse and quit, leaving OS with a staff shortage at a critical moment.

There are enough pilots on the European market willing to step in I'm sure. [Just wait another year, I'll be there!]
OS could well turn this situation to its own advantage, by letting the old and costly Captains go East and upgrading the younger FOs with lower cost-structures, effectively reducing salaries but still making the FOs earn the left seat. Win-win, but probably more complex than that..

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 4):
What I do not get is why OS should get more 777 - isn't that aircraft too big for a rather small market?

Same here. Why not go for 787s instead, or for the time until they are delivered take some second hand 767s?
The 777s only make sense if the demand on existing routes is enormous (I am not in the knows), because starting up new routes is something I find very hard to imagine, given that MUC just around the corner will want to have its share in a growing Alps-market, especially when capacity increases even more with the T2-sat and the 3rd runway.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 7):
Thje problem is, Niki would never have done that deal.

Unlikely. It's still the racer in him which makes it impossible to make a deal where he is just number 2.
Besides, I think the market watchers would've had doubts about such a merger.



// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9269 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6407 times:

Quoting Semaex (Reply 13):
think the market watchers would've had doubts about such a merger.

I wasn't talking about a merger, I was talking about LH buying him personally for 5 Million p.a. to keep him from starting a new airline.

see my further remarks about that and that he is not someone taking orders from others. Neither is he someone that can do without a challenge.



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User currently offlineAquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6351 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 12):
I doubt that Lauda Air would hjave survived , but by all means, they had a damn good service, especially in J class.


I believe I have tried the product, but not sure, VIE-Istanbul .
Really, I remember that was good, clean and spacious, but nothing special: too much "Lachs" on the menu (a food that for inexplicable reasons Austrians seem really fond of) and a 767 machine, already not up to date around Y 2000. But I might be wrong (i.e. it could have been already an OS flight in Lauda colors) or I could have messed it even worse. My memory is really gone fried.



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User currently offlinedesediez From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6181 times:

Quoting LOWS (Thread starter):
-New destinations (HEL, LCA, ATH, etc) are possible

Sorry, only in German
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft...en?_vl_backlink=%2Fhome%2Findex.do
Quoting Cyba (Reply 6):
Quoting LOWS (Thread starter):
-New destinations (HEL, LCA, ATH, etc) are possible

What does that mean? OS already flies to LCA and ATH.


This is already a wrong translation at the beginning as the linked article tells about axing destinations and not about adding new destinations...


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5642 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 9):
If you live in Salzburg, you're far more likely to take the train to Munich for a long haul flight, than go through Wien

I'd rather fly SZG-VIE-XXX

Less stress, especially when it's a morning flight than having to rush off to MUC at 6am to make a flight and have to spend 45 minutes on the Sbahn in Munich.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 13):
There are enough pilots on the European market willing to step in I'm sure. [Just wait another year, I'll be there!]

You'll have to give us a secret signal 
Quoting Aquila3 (Reply 15):
too much "Lachs" on the menu (a food that for inexplicable reasons Austrians seem really fond of)

Because they are delicious and good for you. And better than Extrawurst or Leberkäse.

Quoting desediez (Reply 16):
This is already a wrong translation at the beginning as the linked article tells about axing destinations and not about adding new destinations...

Es tut mir lied. I was rushing through it.


User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1353 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

I see LH plans to announce its latest “plan” for Austrian on Thursday. I guess this will be version 6.0 in last 6 years for Austrian. How many restructurings can one company have in so few years. Pretty amazing. Lol.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/luf...n-for-austrian-airlines-2012-03-13

Also read that former CCO Bierwitrh that resigned last week apparently did so due to “difference of opinion” from LH Group management.


User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4699 times:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):

Keep us up to date please! Interesting times ahead.

Quoting LOWS (Reply 17):
Less stress, especially when it's a morning flight than having to rush off to MUC at 6am to make a flight and have to spend 45 minutes on the Sbahn in Munich.

Nothing worse than going from your home via the centre of a busy city to an airport in slow and crowded trains!

Quoting LOWS (Reply 17):
You'll have to give us a secret signal

I'd have to learn Viennese dialect first   



// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4403 times:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 1):
Seems to be the bigger problem is not cost, but revenue, and or the business model. Maybe its true Austria cannot support a intercontinental airline, and maybe whatever OS becomes it instead should focus on maybe being a small European carrier solely with O&D markets from Vienna and forget the transit 6th freedom game once and for all.

Agree, but the problem is that the only way you can survive as an airline on EU flights alone is in the form of a LCC. All EU legacies are losing money on short haul, but make profits thanks to long haul. So it's either become an all-Eurpean LCC, or try somehow to make a limited long-haul operation work while cost-optimizing European ops.

Quoting YTZ (Reply 9):
If you live in Salzburg, you're far more likely to take the train to Munich for a long haul flight, than go through Wien.

How bad is the train to Vienna that people are actually willing to go through that? And if indeed so, maybe the Austrian government should think of upgrading that line to prevent MUC from stealing VIE's pax? With the airport connection to MUC being so slow, surely it can't be too difficult?

Quoting LOWS (Reply 3):
The point being that if OS does transfer operations to VO, many OS pilots my refuse and quit, leaving OS with a staff shortage at a critical moment.

Which could be turned into an advantage... there are plenty of ex-JK pilots looking for jobs right now at much cheaper rates, for instance.

Quoting YTZ (Reply 9):
OS needs an even simpler fleet than that. I'd say CSeries and 787s. That's it.

Completely agree. 777's? What are they thinking? Iffff long-haul is indeed sustainable from VIE, it is with the 787 or not at all. And in the meantime they could get some cheap 767's or have LH operate some A330s out of VIE.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 20):
How bad is the train to Vienna that people are actually willing to go through that? And if indeed so, maybe the Austrian government should think of upgrading that line to prevent MUC from stealing VIE's pax? With the airport connection to MUC being so slow, surely it can't be too difficult?

The VIE-SZG (Westbahn) line was the first to see the Railjet and times are down to 2h45m from Salzburg Hbf to Wien Westbahnhof with stops in Linz and St Polten. They are making further improvements to speed the line up, including new tracks that bypass a lot of the smaller stations and a new tunnel (Please correct me if I'm wrong here).

For passengers from Linz and St Polten, it's probably easier to fly with VIE as the air starting point vs. MUC. However, from SZG, it's usually much cheaper to take the train to MUC and fly from there versus flying from SZG through either FRA or VIE. Taking the Train to VIE is really only an option if your exVIE flight leaves in the afternoon or late morning.

There is a EuroCity train that leaves from Salzburg Hauptbahnhof around 7.40 which is perfect for TATL from MUC. Especially if you end up on the same platform as the Sbahn to MUC at München Ost.

The other problem with the train to VIE is that the train ends at Wien Westbahnhof, but the city airport train leaves from Wien Mitte (Landstraße). Furthermore, Mitte is being reconstructed right now, and is a mess (though it's been a few months since I was there) so the interchange from the U3 to the City Airport Train is difficult. It's probably easier (though more expensive) to take the taxi to Wien Mitte.

VO runs Q400s on SZG-VIE for a block time of, I think about 1 hour (only 40m, max flying). Unfortunately, it's rare for a connection through VIE from the provinces to be the most cost effective.

The other problem with flying from SZG is that VO/OS/LH has a monopoly on SZG to any decent longhaul connections. AB can get you to DUS, but then to go to LHR, there is sometimes an absurdly long connection. Or there is a LHR-LGW connection. There is no Skyteam service into SZG unless you count HV.

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User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1986 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 20):
How bad is the train to Vienna that people are actually willing to go through that?

It's not that the train is bad. It's this:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 21):
VO runs Q400s on SZG-VIE for a block time of, I think about 1 hour (only 40m, max flying). Unfortunately, it's rare for a connection through VIE from the provinces to be the most cost effective.

I have a relative who lives in SZG and works for Puma. She travels a fair bit. I don't think in the year she's been in Austria, she's travelled through VIE once, other than a trip back home to India. Otherwise, for long-haul to the US and for intra-Europe short-haul it's whatever is on at SZG and then whatever is accessible at MUC. I found that surprising and asked her about it. She says, the company finds that this works out a lot cheaper. Seems to be the thing when you talk to the people there.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 22):
I have a relative who lives in SZG and works for Puma. She travels a fair bit. I don't think in the year she's been in Austria, she's travelled through VIE once, other than a trip back home to India. Otherwise, for long-haul to the US and for intra-Europe short-haul it's whatever is on at SZG and then whatever is accessible at MUC. I found that surprising and asked her about it. She says, the company finds that this works out a lot cheaper. Seems to be the thing when you talk to the people there.


MUC is a nice airport, but I'd much rather fly out of SZG and through VIE to support OS and for less stress. Unfortunately, I don't have unlimited funds.

Hopefully when VO takes over, more competitive labour costs will lead to more affordable fares.


User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3953 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 20):
How bad is the train to Vienna that people are actually willing to go through that? And if indeed so, maybe the Austrian government should think of upgrading that line to prevent MUC from stealing VIE's pax? With the airport connection to MUC being so slow, surely it can't be too difficult?

Having taken both the ICE and the Railjet between Linz and Vienna a lot of times, I can in all honesty state that the Railjet is a classy product, much more so than the ICE. If only the ÖBB (Austrian Train Service) was better at sticking to their time schedules...

Quoting r2rho (Reply 20):
Completely agree. 777's? What are they thinking? Iffff long-haul is indeed sustainable from VIE, it is with the 787 or not at all. And in the meantime they could get some cheap 767's or have LH operate some A330s out of VIE.

Just what I said.
777s no good. Go for 787s instead or 767s for the meantime.
LH 330s? Uuuuh you might be running into a couple of problems trying to convince OS staff to make way for LH long-haul planes out of their primary hub.

Quoting LOWS (Reply 21):
The other problem with the train to VIE is that the train ends at Wien Westbahnhof, but the city airport train leaves from Wien Mitte (Landstraße). Furthermore, Mitte is being reconstructed right now, and is a mess (though it's been a few months since I was there) so the interchange from the U3 to the City Airport Train is difficult. It's probably easier (though more expensive) to take the taxi to Wien Mitte.

Very true, the situation with all trains coming from West of Vienna (Germany, SZG...) ending at Westbahnhof is unfortunate for anyone going on to the airport, because you either have to take a cab to the airport, take the (uncomfy) bus or go by (even less adorable) U3 + S7 or (costly) CAT.
I hope as soon as the new Main Train Station (to the South of the city centre) is opened the situation becomes better. Trains from the West with timely onward connections straight to the airport would be a blessing for people coming from the areas around Linz / St. Pölten / Eisenstadt / Graz (basically anything W & S of Vienna)



// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
25 LOWS : They've gotten a lot better over the past 1 or 1.5 years. My REx train in the morning is rarely anything more than a minute late. The problem is that
26 LOWS : I almost forgot: now that Cirrus is dead (?) the connection SZG-ZRH is not any longer an effective option. Even with the Railjet, it's still a 6+ hour
27 Post contains links LHRFlyer : From Lufthansa's annual report published today (page 99 of the Adobe document and page 73 if following the numbering on the pages): http://investor-re
28 Post contains links LHRFlyer : Bloomberg reports that Lufthansa is to make an equity injection of €183m into Austrian: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...83-million-to-ensure-
29 something : I would believe relocating to the Gulf is only an alternative to some. You can either live in historical Vienna, your home, where your family is and
30 Post contains images rosterdriven : The guy that has been replaced was a German too, no change. Funny times ahead.
31 mercure1 : So appears the "news" of today was LH Group simply pumping more Euros into the loss making enterprise while continues to strongly beg employees to als
32 LOWS : It's to help them restructure and, I believe this will also go for the new (used) A320s for the shorthaul fleet.
33 Semaex : Interesting. Let go of 11 737s and replace them with up to 7 A32x As Niki doesn't have a long-haul operation it's pointless to compare them with a OS
34 macc : Used OS this week to DME since a long time again and wont go for it so soon. I am a business traveler and have to admit that they do have lost much of
35 something : Apparently, it's not LH that is shifting the traffic, but the MUC preference seems to be the traveller's choice. You could argue that LH/OS should fo
36 Aquila3 : Do you guess why most of the people in Italy believe that Salzburg is in Bayern? Do not get me wrong, I absolutely love Salzburg as a tourist, as all
37 buyantukhaa : I doubt that would happen on fast trains, which I expect to go to the main station directly. West will likely remain the terminal for regional/suburb
38 Semaex : While saying that I agree that long-distance trains should all go to the new Main Station (previously Süd-/Ostbahnhof), I must also say that it was
39 vfw614 : I have been asking myself why Lufthansa allows all those smallish subsidiaries like Austrian, bmi and Brussels to operate a handful of longhaul planes
40 PanHAM : They do already central purchasing to get all the synergy effects. Whatever else can be done will certainly done under the SCORE guidelines.
41 LOWS : Austria had to join the EU for a number of reasons, mainly relating to Germany. In the 80s, we began to feel the hangover from the Kriesky "Island of
42 LAXintl : So in a best case scenario what is the strategic road for OS eventually? Stay a network carrier playing the crowded East-West connecting game (as of 2
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