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Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?  
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27498 posts, RR: 22
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13279 times:

Came across an interesting site (address in watermark in lower right hand corner of photo below) with hundreds of old photos I'd never seen before, mostly of propeller types but also some early jets. Few of the photos have dates or locations.

The Pan Am DC-6B photo below caught my eye, obviously dating from the 1950s based on the livery. Can anyone identify the airport?

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N7FkvRFrRBM/S87EMziJbtI/AAAAAAAAXqc/CSpHCERhx08/s768/N6534C_DC6_PAN+AMERICAN_42286_1024.jpg

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User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 2162 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13165 times:

Reminds me of Kabul.

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13085 times:

Very interesting website... Thanks for sharing


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User currently offlineIndependence76 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12894 times:

I'm my guess would be somewhere in South America. Definitely cannot be sure of precisely where.

User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7309 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12867 times:
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It looks like LPB to me.

User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12662 times:

Looks maybe like Caracas?

User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12351 times:

I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

Check this out for comparison: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Thai-...d=242d91f77c44283748f50b92cd6c81de


User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12319 times:

Here's the search I used: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...f50b92cd6c81de&sort_order=year+asc

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'


User currently offlinebtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 632 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12300 times:
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Yep - that's Kowloon. Well spotted rb211-524h

Amazing how the landscape has changed there beyond recognition.



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User currently offlineaircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1827 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11959 times:

Almost unbelievable! Just one lifespan!...

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3809 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11933 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
It looks like LPB to me.

Definitely not LPB. LBP is up on the flat plains above the city, which sits in a bowl. The nearest mountains look nothing like that and are nowhere near that close. Have you been there, or did you just make a wild guess?


User currently offlineCZ346 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 95 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):

Now THAT is impressive! Good eye...

I spend pretty much every weekend in Hong Kong and would NEVER have guessed that. Amazing what that amount of time and a couple of societal revolutions can do to a town, eh?


User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 7031 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11603 times:

Any way to know whether it's before the 1958 runway opened? No idea when PA DC-6Bs got prop spinners

User currently offlinesparky35805 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11012 times:
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The 6B has radar,so probably 1956-59.Mel Lawrence has photos on A.net from Honk Kong during the late 50s-early 60s before all the high rises were built.
Sparky


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27498 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10635 times:

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):
I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

I'm sure that's it. Thanks. That's one that didn't cross my mind. I was thinking more of somewhere like Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan or maybe South America, althouth most of the mountainous cities down the west coast of South America were served by Panagra (50% owned by Pan Am, merged with Braniff in 1967), not Pan Am itself.


User currently offlinedave2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8620 times:

That is the old Hong Kong airport. Guess late 1950s for the photo.

User currently offlineChazPilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6545 times:

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!

User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2231 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Quoting ChazPilot (Reply 16):

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!

That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that. My guess is Tehran's Mehrabad airport, which until the 1960s was pretty much out in the countryside and has the Alborz Mountains pretty close by. PA had a reasonably large presence at THR for most of its life, up until 1979, anyhow.


User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 2162 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

I still say its Kabul...

Google aerial shot of Kabul, and you can still see the outline of that building in the background to the north of the field.

Another hint for me is the diagonal taxiway in front of the PA plane. Kabul has one just like it leading to the terminal ramp.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27498 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):
I still say its Kabul...

It's definitely the old HKG Kai Tak. Look at the 1959 photo of the Thai Airways DC-4 at HKG in reply 6, taken at almost exactly the same location. You can even see some of the same buildings in the background, including the building directly in line with the Pan Am DC-6B's wing, the bottom of which is also visible under the TG DC-4's fuselage. The white building (the highest building on the mountainside) above the DC-6B's forward fuselage is also visible in the DC-4 photo.

And note the rock formation at the top left hand corner of the DC-4 photo. That's known as "Lion Rock", a famous HKG landmark. Will repeat that photo here for convenience.


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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

Wow, I must be a plane geek - I immediately thought Kai Tak!  

User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3194 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 17):
That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that.

Both those photos were probably taken in the dry season, winter. Hong Kong get less than 5cm rain per month in the winter. Amazing since they get 2.5m of rain for the year.
My guess is that there had been significant deforestation in the hills up to that time. What hills you can see now, not covered in urban devlopment, have revegetated, some. But look at many of the more modern pictures that clearly show the mountains, still a lot of bare areas.

Yes, I was going to guess something in southern or central Asia as well.

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 7):

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'

rb211, you probably have a career with Geospatial Intelligence if you want one. That's fantastic terrain sleuthing!

-Rampart


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Amazing! Does anyone have a similiar angle photo of Kai Tak in the 1990s, before it shut-down? Would make for an amazing side-by-side contrast!

User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3459 times:

Best I could find for 90s pics (40 years on from original but still almost 20 years old) just before Kai Tak closed. These would give a side-by-side comparison with the OPs post with the Pan Am.

I don't think anybody could get the same perspective again for the Thai DC4 pic with Lion Rock in the background because spotters wouldn't be allowed on the tarmac in modern times looking N/NE.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0702532
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0399853
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0808243


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