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Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?  
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25459 posts, RR: 22
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12492 times:

Came across an interesting site (address in watermark in lower right hand corner of photo below) with hundreds of old photos I'd never seen before, mostly of propeller types but also some early jets. Few of the photos have dates or locations.

The Pan Am DC-6B photo below caught my eye, obviously dating from the 1950s based on the livery. Can anyone identify the airport?

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N7FkvRFrRBM/S87EMziJbtI/AAAAAAAAXqc/CSpHCERhx08/s768/N6534C_DC6_PAN+AMERICAN_42286_1024.jpg

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User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12378 times:

Reminds me of Kabul.

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12298 times:

Very interesting website... Thanks for sharing


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User currently onlineIndependence76 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12107 times:

I'm my guess would be somewhere in South America. Definitely cannot be sure of precisely where.


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12080 times:
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It looks like LPB to me.

User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11875 times:

Looks maybe like Caracas?

User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11564 times:

I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

Check this out for comparison: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Thai-...d=242d91f77c44283748f50b92cd6c81de


User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11532 times:

Here's the search I used: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...f50b92cd6c81de&sort_order=year+asc

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'


User currently offlinebtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 578 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11513 times:

Yep - that's Kowloon. Well spotted rb211-524h

Amazing how the landscape has changed there beyond recognition.



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User currently offlineaircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1720 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11172 times:

Almost unbelievable! Just one lifespan!...

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3097 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11146 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
It looks like LPB to me.

Definitely not LPB. LBP is up on the flat plains above the city, which sits in a bowl. The nearest mountains look nothing like that and are nowhere near that close. Have you been there, or did you just make a wild guess?


User currently offlineCZ346 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 95 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11034 times:

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):

Now THAT is impressive! Good eye...

I spend pretty much every weekend in Hong Kong and would NEVER have guessed that. Amazing what that amount of time and a couple of societal revolutions can do to a town, eh?


User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6839 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10816 times:

Any way to know whether it's before the 1958 runway opened? No idea when PA DC-6Bs got prop spinners

User currently offlinesparky35805 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10225 times:
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The 6B has radar,so probably 1956-59.Mel Lawrence has photos on A.net from Honk Kong during the late 50s-early 60s before all the high rises were built.
Sparky


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25459 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9848 times:

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):
I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

I'm sure that's it. Thanks. That's one that didn't cross my mind. I was thinking more of somewhere like Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan or maybe South America, althouth most of the mountainous cities down the west coast of South America were served by Panagra (50% owned by Pan Am, merged with Braniff in 1967), not Pan Am itself.


User currently offlinedave2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7833 times:

That is the old Hong Kong airport. Guess late 1950s for the photo.

User currently offlineChazPilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!

User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2038 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5166 times:

Quoting ChazPilot (Reply 16):

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!

That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that. My guess is Tehran's Mehrabad airport, which until the 1960s was pretty much out in the countryside and has the Alborz Mountains pretty close by. PA had a reasonably large presence at THR for most of its life, up until 1979, anyhow.


User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

I still say its Kabul...

Google aerial shot of Kabul, and you can still see the outline of that building in the background to the north of the field.

Another hint for me is the diagonal taxiway in front of the PA plane. Kabul has one just like it leading to the terminal ramp.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25459 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):
I still say its Kabul...

It's definitely the old HKG Kai Tak. Look at the 1959 photo of the Thai Airways DC-4 at HKG in reply 6, taken at almost exactly the same location. You can even see some of the same buildings in the background, including the building directly in line with the Pan Am DC-6B's wing, the bottom of which is also visible under the TG DC-4's fuselage. The white building (the highest building on the mountainside) above the DC-6B's forward fuselage is also visible in the DC-4 photo.

And note the rock formation at the top left hand corner of the DC-4 photo. That's known as "Lion Rock", a famous HKG landmark. Will repeat that photo here for convenience.


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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Wow, I must be a plane geek - I immediately thought Kai Tak!  

User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 17):
That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that.

Both those photos were probably taken in the dry season, winter. Hong Kong get less than 5cm rain per month in the winter. Amazing since they get 2.5m of rain for the year.
My guess is that there had been significant deforestation in the hills up to that time. What hills you can see now, not covered in urban devlopment, have revegetated, some. But look at many of the more modern pictures that clearly show the mountains, still a lot of bare areas.

Yes, I was going to guess something in southern or central Asia as well.

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 7):

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'

rb211, you probably have a career with Geospatial Intelligence if you want one. That's fantastic terrain sleuthing!

-Rampart


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Amazing! Does anyone have a similiar angle photo of Kai Tak in the 1990s, before it shut-down? Would make for an amazing side-by-side contrast!

User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Best I could find for 90s pics (40 years on from original but still almost 20 years old) just before Kai Tak closed. These would give a side-by-side comparison with the OPs post with the Pan Am.

I don't think anybody could get the same perspective again for the Thai DC4 pic with Lion Rock in the background because spotters wouldn't be allowed on the tarmac in modern times looking N/NE.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0702532
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0399853
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0808243


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