gib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 31170 times:
PSU..... Apparently somewhere on the East side......which does us a lot of good... Ha...
"Delta Air Lines spokesman Eric Torbenson tells The Associated Press mechanics were testing the engines of the Boeing 737 when they experienced a problem with the braking system around 5 a.m. Tuesday. Bergen says the jet rolled off the taxiway on the east side of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. She wasn't aware of any effect on airport operations as of 6 a.m."
My guess is it's the Taxiway directly North of the large hanger that's East of the F terminal (TWY E). There is a big drop from that TWY down to the hanger ramp. Often when you taxi by for a West departure, you are above everything but the V Stab on a 777.
Judging by the picture it looks like it was quite foggy too. I wonder if the "problem with the braking system" was a failure to apply brakes...
Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7701 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 30483 times:
Quoting micstatic (Reply 11): I've often wondered how ATL passes FAA inspections with the huge slopes in various areas of the airport.
That is an interesting question. That being said, what are the FAA regs for large slopes, ditches, enbankments in the middle of the airfield?
Remember the CO 737 in DEN that departed the runway? Wasn't the terrain of the airfield partially attributed to causing the damage that led to the fire once it departed the runway and went over a large drop-off?
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 30203 times:
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 15): That is an interesting question. That being said, what are the FAA regs for large slopes, ditches, enbankments in the middle of the airfield?
The taxiway safety area (TSA) is 160' either side of the centerline (320' total), within that area from the edge of the hard surface, you can have a 1.5% slope for drainage. There is a smaller TSA authorized if no airplane in ADG-IV or bigger uses it. The B-73G/H is an ADG-III with or without winglets. You also have to look at if there is a FAA wavier if this taxiway does not meet the criteria of FAR part 139 and that in the Airport Planning ACs.
But why were they doing an engine run on a taxiway? Usually those are done on the mx ramp if a blast-fence is available, or a designated run-up area. Also, it looks like that taxiway climbs up-hill, so it is probibly not a run-up area. It does not make sense to do mx engine runs there.
At DFW leak checks, etc. are done on the ramps, or in one of the engine run-up areas. WB and full power engine runs are usually done on a closed runway.
jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29841 times:
Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 16): I was also wondering how it's okay to have slopes like that on an airfield. I've never seen anything like that before. I guess this incident is a good reason why it's not such a good idea.
ATL's runways are also somewhat notable for their degrees of slope, creating somewhat of a valley in the midpoint of the runways. It's very noticeable when you're turning onto an active runway and you look down field.
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3746 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29742 times:
Quoting jcs17 (Reply 20): ATL's runways are also somewhat notable for their degrees of slope, creating somewhat of a valley in the midpoint of the runways. It's very noticeable when you're turning onto an active runway and you look down field.
DFW, as well, or at least the taxiways. Some of the taxiways have very noticeable slopes to them.
rl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29560 times:
Can I be the annoying guy and see if someone can do a reg request to see if this was one of the planes I was on the other week? (Im a bad aviation geek I know).... 22FEB ATL-SXM and 27FEB SXM-ATL. Both were on 73G's.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
: CNN has a live stream of the recovery operations: edit: #$%!@ nevermind, they just ended it. Maybe there's another one up somewhere. Would be interest
: Did they do an engine test and forgot the wheel chocks like the Etihad A340 in Toulouse?
: This isn't good- DL only has 10 of them in the fleet, used primarily for SNA transcons, EYW flights and SXM. I bet there'll be some substitutions this
: If the brakes truly "failed," couldn't they have applied thrust reversers as a last-ditch effort to stop the plane?
: Wrong, wrong, and wrong . It's on the northwest side of the airport, just west of the city fuel farm, north of runway 8L, on a corner of taxiway E -
: Well, in true A.net fashion, I have to nitpick. The aircraft is not lying on its side. In fact, it's straight on its belly on the ground. The ground h
: Jesus. Sky over here is reporting a plane has craashed at ATL. Talk about completely incorrect and over the top!
: I don't know anything about the SAV planes for St. Patrick's Day but surely they could be substituted if necessary. So can the SXM flights, back to t
: Looks like the FAA is posting 30 minute delays on average into ATL as of this writing due to "RWY:Disabled Aircraft". I guess the recovery efforts are
: . . . and the SNA flights (which can also be 738 and likely 319), and CR7s can do EYW, IIRC. They shouldn't have too much trouble.
: How is that when taxiway E is SOUTH of runway 8R/27L? I'm not there but your description doesn't make sense. We don't to high power runs there in ATL
: I wonder what Delta's policy is for employees involved in this kind of mishap. Hoping they didn't lose their jobs.
: There will be an investigation and if it is found out those involved willfully and knowingly didn't follow procedures then there will likely be punit