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Virgin America Announces Portland  
User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12642 times:

Put a bird on the bird.

Flights start June 5 to SFO and LAX

http://www.virginamerica.com/vx/book...ewegrowagain.html?cid=sm_social908

[Edited 2012-03-13 10:06:29]

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User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1779 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12518 times:

Very nice destination.. I think local Portland crowd will embrace these flights as UA has been reducing capacity on these destinations.. I am sure Alaska will attack them pretty hard ..


Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12479 times:

Yes, it's a very nice video they produced (link above). It'll be a good fit with their model.

User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12443 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 1):
I am sure Alaska will attack them pretty hard

Has not stopped VX yet. Im sure AS will try but capacity is not why people try VX or B6 or any other LCC.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5411 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12417 times:

Congrat's to PDX for getting a new carrier and more service to California!

Lots of nice things going on right now for your City of Roses a.netters to be thinking and talking about. Nice times!

bb


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12354 times:

Their schedule is lean though: one daily to SFO and two dailies to LAX.

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2757 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12304 times:

Well, it seems that PDX is getting a bit of love lately.

Congrats for being VX's newest city.

Then probably PDX will get (I'm predicting this) the PDX-DCA n/s that AS filed for.

And then DL upgauges to AMS.

Some good things happening there.


User currently offlineiflykpdx From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12233 times:

Sweet   Hope AS and VX can coexist on these routes.


Airport Management - UND
User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1375 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12204 times:

Good deal. America's best airline opens for business in a new city.

Yet another reason to avoid Alaska/Horizon when headed to NW and give VX more business when possible.


Initial schedule:

VX802 LAX-PDX 0935-1150
VX808 LAX-PDX 1910-2125

VX803 PDX-LAX 0630-0850
VX809 PDX-LAX 1605-1825

VX816 SFO-PDX 1330-1520

VX817 PDX-SFO 1235-1430



[Edited 2012-03-13 10:53:40]

User currently offlinelhpdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12200 times:

I'm so happy! Great news for Portland!

User currently offlineSulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 524 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12109 times:

Will the plane run on organic bio-fuels?


In thrust we trust!
User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11960 times:
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It's great to see PDX getting VX and some new choices to CA. I do ask the question...why only 1X daily to SFO? That's hardly any competition against AS or UA. I guess 1X daily to SFO and 2X daily to LAX is better than no additional service. Good luck, VX. I'm sure you guys will do fine...more connection opportunities to the rest of the VX network.

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2097 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11826 times:

Maybe this will get Alaska to stop using those Q400s to SFO.

Still won't fly 'em, but I eagerly look forward to them helping drop fares on WN and AS to California.

They should name the bird "granola" and have it run on fairy dust and love.

[Edited 2012-03-13 11:40:40]

User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11772 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 10):
Will the plane run on organic bio-fuels?

Locally sourced, artisan jet fuel, no doubt.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17439 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11580 times:

Quoting gothamspotter (Reply 13):
Locally sourced, artisan jet fuel, no doubt.

LEED Bronze certified service, since their terminal is LEED Gold and their HQ LEED Silver...



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2672 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10960 times:

Let me ask you just one more time. Is it local?

Great to see. Hopefully they'll throw a few more frequencies on both routes once they're established in the markets.


User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10917 times:

AS doesn't fly mainline 737 between SFO and PDX? Didn't know that (don't live in Portland anymore, but recall flying back from Asia to PDX in the 2000s connecting in SFO and it was a 737 or MD).

User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10892 times:
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Quoting timpdx (Reply 16):
AS doesn't fly mainline 737 between SFO and PDX?

Twice a day. The other 3 are QX Q400s.

Tom SJC



When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your eyes turned skyward -Leonardo DaVinci
User currently offlinedoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10863 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 1):
UA has been reducing capacity on these destinations.

Indeed, 1 or 2 flights a day on an RJ with a VERY irregular schedule. Through a great deal of effort and hard work, UA has made itself irrelevant on this route.

I particularly like the 1910 LAX-PDX departure and 630 PDX-LAX flight. Alaska's 17:05 LAX-PDX was often too early for me to make and if the 21:00 departure is delayed I miss the last MAX train and have to take a cab. The 6:30 flight to LAX arrives early enough for a full day of work.



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User currently onlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2740 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10799 times:

More great news for PDX! Happy to see it.  


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User currently offlinejbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 547 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10753 times:

Welcome VX and love the subtle Portlandia references..

User currently offlinethreeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 674 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10685 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 12):
Maybe this will get Alaska to stop using those Q400s to SFO.

My thoughts as well, but I wouldn't hold out hope for 8x daily 739s with $49 fares  .

VX needs more than 1 SFO flight to scare AS, especially when the flight does not allow for a day trip in either direction. Perhaps AS will change a Q400 turn or two into 73Gs, but I don't believe AS has a lot of excess capacity available for the rest of the year. There are few new frames entering the fleet in 2012 and certain 734 leases can be extended, but AS is opening PHL and potentially PDX/SAN-DCA, which together would consume 3 frames.


User currently offlinelhpdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10612 times:

I wouldn't be surprise if VX is up to 3 flights a day to SFO and LAX by next summer.......................................I wonder which concourse they'll fly out of? Hopefully C!

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13553 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10573 times:
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Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 21):
VX needs more than 1 SFO flight to scare AS

To what end, though? What does "scaring" AS do, exactly? It's not like AS is going to abandon the route.

So is the goal to see VX lose money getting into a fare war with AS and ultimately pull out of the market?



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineblrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10492 times:

Awesome! new options to LAX & SFO. Wonder if i can use this to connect to VA flight to down under.


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25 Post contains images chrisair : Not recently. It's been 1x daily whenever I've looked at it this winter. Not sure if it's changed recently. I remember flying UA PDX-LAX-TUS about 6
26 RWA380 : It's about time, I have been wondering why it took VX so long, PDX was on their initial list of cities they were planning service to. Glad to see them
27 Tomassjc : I'm fairly sure it's been that way since the fall. The evening 737 doesn't operate on Saturdays however. The morning 737 goes on to Cabo daily,
28 laca773 : Congratulations to VX and PDX. VX can definitely co-exist with AS nicely in the LAX-PDX market. UAEX is down to what 3-4 CRJs (50 seaters). It will be
29 Post contains images DeltaL1011man : I am pretty sure that is VX's goal period. Burning money is what they are good at.
30 HiFlyerAS : Amen to that. It's been awhile since we've heard anything from VX about their financials. Can't wait to hear Cush move his prediction for a profit fr
31 mercure1 : Don't really matter as long as the backers continue to stand behind the airline, which they recently refilled the coffers. Anyhow a IPO could be on t
32 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : It makes no difference to me personally, but I'd question the wisdom of buying shares in a company that needs to have it's coffered regularly refille
33 Post contains images VXCabinCrew : Working inflight for VX, I am always surprised by some of the negativity on here directed at our company. I find it a little shocking that airline jun
34 AS739BSI : Most people are negative towards the financials as VX was shown not to produce net revenue, not that we want VX to fail, we just have a hard time seei
35 PlanesNTrains : Reading this thread, I'd say most people seem pretty excited for VX. Are you referring to other threads? If it's the financial side of it, don't expe
36 slcdeltarumd11 : VX product is really the best out there for both domestic coach or domestic first class. Its kind of hard not to like them coming to your city as a no
37 HPRamper : I'll be interested to see the non-intro fares out of PDX. PDX-California routes are already pretty affordable, for the most part, especially if one is
38 Post contains images BigGSFO : Actually I disagree for the most part. I fly PDX-Bay Area once or twice a month and it is $75-$100 more than Seattle, on the average. Anecdotally, an
39 HiFlyerAS : I think that's a great idea. They can watch plane after plane after plane on AS/QX depart for LAX and SFO while they sit there and wait for the one o
40 MaverickM11 : But NK is making money hand over fist. Why would anyone want VX shares?
41 ramprat74 : The Port might put them at D6-D8? Since NW left those gates. They been empty. The seats are even gone. The old Continental ticket counter is avaliable
42 twinotter : VXCabinCrew didn't implicate everybody in the thread, but there certainly are some snarky/nasty comments in this thread. "I am pretty sure that is VX
43 SandroZRH : Don't worry about it! Some people just can't live with the fact that a new airline has the balls to step into a competitive market and show the well
44 VXCabinCrew : Thanks for your support, guys!! It's always great to receive positive feedback. And like twinotter said, I am not saying everyone on here is bitter to
45 HiFlyerAS : I've heard that you folks work really hard with the 'on-demand' ordering from their seatback. Nice for the customer but maybe not so nice for the cre
46 threeifbyair : "Scare" is a poor choice of words on my part. I was just making the point that 1x daily doesn't greatly affect the competitive situation and as a res
47 HiFlyerAS : No wonder they're opening PDX if fares are that high! Heck, they're high everywhere! If you don't catch a sale you pay up the nose these days no matt
48 Post contains images HPRamper : More likely it will be a high C gate, possibly the horseshoe side of D. 200 or even 250 for Cali and back isn't a bad fare at all - especially seeing
49 enilria : So, why fly PHL-SFO more frequently than PDX-SFO??? Doesn't make much sense to me.
50 SANFan : Either the PDX fans are a realistic and intuitive bunch who have been paying attention, or as a general rule, people are finally "getting it" as far a
51 chrisair : Not sure why everyone is so anti-Virgin America. They're a dream. Their fare sales close in to departure are great since other airlines are forced to
52 EA CO AS : So basically, this isn't about "Yay for VX!" at all, or even "Yay for PDX!" but rather, "Yay for making AS lower their fares!" Not exactly a ringing
53 JasonCRH : Why are you saying "congrat's"? All that's needed is "congrats" without an apostrophe. Adding an apostrophe makes something posessive. it does NOT plu
54 Tomassjc : [ Thanks Chrisair....my biggest pet peeve ever! Almost as bad a saying VX is based in "Frisco" Tom SJC
55 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : It probably isn't anger. VX is buying it's way into the market through huge cash infusions from investors. Nothing wrong with that, but any airline c
56 Post contains images SANFan : Because, Jason, it's a contraction for congratULATIONs. Kind of like, oh, "it's" is short for "it Is". (What has "pluralization" got to do anything?)
57 mercure1 : If that was the thinking, companies like google, twitter, gogo etc would not have received funding either. People invest for a host of reasons, and i
58 RWA380 : I can't wait for VX to come here to PDX, I'm very hopeful that VX is well recieved and adds flights in the future. VX stated in it's initial carrier
59 PlanesNTrains : Then they likely need to get their head examined...imho. Best in Class is great, but if they can't make money, why invest in it? And yes, I know they
60 bobloblaw : Still waiting for ATL SFO-ATL 2x LAX-LAX 2-3x one red eye.
61 Post contains images chrisair : Competition is a good thing for everyone involved. If it results in lower fares, then so be it. Your airline gets enough money from us golds anyway.
62 Post contains images point2point : Well, if VX really wants some competition, they need to step onto the DEN-SFO and DEN-LAX markets. The passenger count is there, as so is the competi
63 HiFlyerAS : I remember reading on a.net some time ago that SEA was actually VX's worst-performing city. Anyone remember the details on that?
64 AS739BSI : The DEN bloodbath? If DL can't start it, why would VX want to join in? UA, WN and F9 do SFO and add MQ on LAX. UA does have two widebody frequencies f
65 dwcontroller : PHL is at least three times the size of PDX based on population. If you have (x) number of people in PDX who want to fly to SFO/LAX a day and (3x) nu
66 Post contains links JasonCRH : Fair enough that I should have capitalized. That said, per this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraction_(grammar), congrats is not a contractio
67 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : I think the details went something like this: Alaska Airlines. Why are we even going down these roads??? -Dave
68 VXCabinCrew : All of VX's cities started prior to December 2010 are profitable. The newer markets (DFW, ORD, CUN, SJD) are the ones that are yet to turn a profit.
69 wedgetail737 : VX already has massive competition on several of their routes including SFO-JFK, LAX-JFK, SFO-LAS, LAX-FLL, SFO-DFW, LAX-DFW. VX has plenty of compet
70 VXCabinCrew : LOL, as I said, all the routes started before December 2010 are profitable. Consistently profitable, I don't know. I'm sure there are slower periods
71 EA CO AS : Source?
72 VXCabinCrew : Wish I knew the source for you. There was an interesting article that was published a few months ago when our CEO and Richard Branson were in Dallas
73 ASFlyer : Well, this is entirely anecdotal (as is your information) but a friend of mine that works at SEA for VX says they rarely sell their FC seats and ofte
74 HiFlyerAS : If you are in fact 'cabin crew' as your user name implies, you would never be privvy to financial reports detailing this sort of information...it wou
75 MaverickM11 : Those also had/have enormous potential. VX, however, has zero upside. At best it will trundle along like any of the other carriers currently around.
76 EricR : In my opinion, I think VX's biggest obstacle is determining what kind of carrier they want to be. They seem to be a hybrid of a legacy carrier and a
77 VXCabinCrew : I never said I was privy to proprietary financial information. I am not. But as I said, there was an article that was about our route system and it n
78 HiFlyerAS : Hey, don't go! Stay and stick up for your airline! In all the discussion on here about the applications to DCA hardly anyone has chimed in on VX's be
79 F9Animal : Sweet! It was eventually going to happen! Did I read it right? VX has 50 aircraft now?!!
80 Post contains images SANFan : ...or city. I know there have been a couple of other people in the past that have tried but they didn't seem to stay too long. VX has always been a v
81 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : One in particular was indeed condescending, at least from my perspective, and was difficult to converse with. Maybe that jaded me a little. I think i
82 F9Animal : VXCabinCrew! Don't give up! Like others have said, your input is great! One thing we all know, there are some really cranky, unhappy, wannabe armchair
83 RWA380 : Hey VX, don't give up, the opinions here are as varied as the participants in a Benetton ad. Your perspective is unique for those of us who are not ca
84 aviators99 : With low frequency, they can probably add PDX mostly by increasing utilization of existing a/c. So, as long as it is net $0 per flight, it builds bra
85 PlanesNTrains : That true, and I'd add that it's also filled with people who simply have a different point of view. Sometimes those people get lumped in with the "ha
86 VXCabinCrew : Thanks for the kind words! I guess I'll just ignore the cranky, grumpy people. I'm a positive, happy person, so the grumps really rub me the wrong wa
87 Post contains images lightsaber : Lated edit: Everyone should recall VX was profitable 3Q2011. Are the LAX flights times to support the Virgin Australia flights out of LAX? I know more
88 Post contains images lightsaber : VX question: What terms are the current (OEO) A320s leased? I'm just curious how quickly they could transition to the A320NEOs. DESPITE them buying th
89 Post contains links and images AlnessW : Hooray! Awesome news for Portland. I had been hoping for a while the VX would come here someday. While I have never flown them personally, I have talk
90 flyingcaT : It might be considered slightly better as on long haul flights they only bring out the carts once and afterwards only fulfill screen orders. Also it
91 AlnessW : Hello folks, I have a few updates as to where VX will likely set up shop in PDX. For those of you who aren't aware, NW's former gates at PDX, D6 and D
92 Post contains images GSPSPOT : Woo-hoo for all those Left Coast airports! What about the Atlantas, Nashvilles, etc of the world?? These are HUGE and/or growing metro areas with lots
93 wedgetail737 : What? You not satisfied with your Jetblues, Airtrans, Southwests, Spirits?
94 AS739BSI : It is hard to say if VX will be targeting DL fortress routes like SFO/LAX-MSP,ATL, DTW. I see these destinations on the VX radar 1) IAH or HOU (more l
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