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What Would A Pax Version Of The AN-225 Look Like?  
User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5486 times:

How many pax could it possibly take on one fully loaded flight, I saw somewhere that someone said about 1500 people but that does seem a little too many. Plus would it be a double decker etc...

And if this did exist how big would the stands/gates be to accommodate 2 or 3 at the same time for a fleet. It most likely would be massive! 

This is just purely a fun speculation by the way not an actual idea or anything!  

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5443 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Thread starter):

How many pax could it possibly take on one fully loaded flight, I saw somewhere that someone said about 1500 people but that does seem a little too many. Plus would it be a double decker etc...

Hypothetically it would be a triple deck plane I would have thought. IIRC in it's current guise the An-124/225 can accommodate up to 80 people in an upstairs seating area, above the cargo hold.


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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
Hypothetically it would be a triple deck plane I would have thought.

Wow, that would sure be interesting to fly. Probably the first plane you could get lost on because it would be so big! 
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
IIRC in it's current guise the An-124/225 can accommodate up to 80 people in an upstairs seating area, above the cargo hold.

Very interesting, I thought it held alot less.



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User currently online4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3017 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

What if you put a million pigeons onboard and they all took off?  


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User currently offlineGingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 893 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Like an AN-225, with windows.

Sorry couldn't resist  



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 3):
What if you put a million pigeons onboard and they all took off?  

And what if it was on a conveyor belt  



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User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5301 times:

I bet some airline would come up with something extravagant (a la A380 with shops and bars), like a sauna or bowling alley   But seriously, designed back in the days of Warsaw Pact for cargo, I am sure it wouldn't be a comfy ride for most! And also, being only as tall as the A380 or 747, I doubt it would be triple decker unless a very specific market of people under 4ft was to be gone after  

User currently offlinesimplikate From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5223 times:

Check out an A380 fuselage completely inside an AN-225. Yep, it could be a triple decker.

http://www.aircraft-wallpaper.com/20...80-fuselage-caried-by-antonov.html


User currently offlinesimplikate From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Actually, I think this is a scale model fuselage, not actual.

User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Quoting simplikate (Reply 7):
Check out an A380 fuselage completely inside an AN-225. Yep, it could be a triple decker.

It's a AN-124, The picture title say AN-225, but the plane itself says AN-124. Very cool pic, thanks for sharing!



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

Just to give you some idea of potential capacity, Lockheed once considered a passenger version of the C-5, to have been called the L-500 and they planned on it seating a max of 1000 passengers. The AN-225 is just under 30 feet longer than the C-5, so I would say that the potential seating capacity of a passenger variant of the AN-225 probably would have been in the same range, possibly slightly higher, maybe 1050-1100 passengers.

User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 6):

You forgot the scenic hiking trips also  


User currently offlineTheBigOne From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

Quoting simplikate (Reply 7):
Check out an A380 fuselage completely inside an AN-225. Yep, it could be a triple decker.

I believe that is the model that sits on the Emirates roundabout at the entrance to the tunnels at Heathrow T1,2,3. I would love to see a plane big enough to swallow the fuselage of an actual A380|



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

Quoting TheBigOne (Reply 12):
I would love to see a plane big enough to swallow the fuselage of an actual A380|

What about the Spruce Goose!?



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 10):
I would say that the potential seating capacity of a passenger variant of the AN-225 probably would have been in the same range, possibly slightly higher, maybe 1050-1100 passengers.

Imagine the space needed at any airport, to check in that many passengers, hold them with seating until departure,the real long boarding process, the crew needed to service the passengers and keep their area safe. And of course God forbid, if something went wrong, the huge backlash when 1000 people + perish.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4880 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 6):
And also, being only as tall as the A380 or 747, I doubt it would be triple decker unless a very specific market of people under 4ft was to be gone after

It has far more usable height inside the 'cabin'. Plus the deck above what is in reality the cargo hold, I've not been up there but if it's the same height as the cockpit it won't be tight, although some windows could help.


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User currently offlineajhYXE From Canada, joined May 2011, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

As amazed as I would be to see a pax AN-225 I would be equally amazed to see what evacuation procedures for one would look like.

Does anyone know what types of seating configurations could be used? 3-6-6-6-3!?



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4195 times:

Quoting ajhYXE (Reply 16):
Does anyone know what types of seating configurations could be used? 3-6-6-6-3!?

3-5-3 would be the maximum I should think. The cabin floor is 6.4m wide at the floor and 6.8m wide at most, in comparison the 747 cabin is 6.1m across. Incidentally the An-124 comes with the option of a second deck when transporting small vehicles etc...


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

Quoting simplikate (Reply 7):
Check out an A380 fuselage completely inside an AN-225.
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 17):
Quoting ajhYXE (Reply 16):
Does anyone know what types of seating configurations could be used? 3-6-6-6-3!?

3-5-3 would be the maximum I should think.

I don't think current safety regulations permit seating that's more than 2 seats from an aisle, which limits seats along the windows to 3-abreast, and a maximum of 5-abreast in the center section.


User currently offlinedc10bhx From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

Now I know the AN-225 is big, BUT, where are these 1000+ passengers going to put their baggage (unless you want MOL to have a fleet of these flying around Europe that is)!

When this beast was designed they intended to carry the Buran on top (just like the 747 SCA). There was also an option for "pods" which I think were propsed for the M4 (Bison I think). Can you imagine over a thousand passengers waiting for the roof pod to be removed when they arrive at a little out of the way Airport with very limited equipment all waiting for their suitcase that they have mortgaged their house for to pay to bring clothes on holiday!!!   



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User currently offlinedandaire From UK - Wales, joined Jul 2008, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 3311 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 13):
Quoting TheBigOne (Reply 12):
I would love to see a plane big enough to swallow the fuselage of an actual A380|

What about the Spruce Goose!?

If you look at the size comparison shown here, the fuselage's of the Spuce Goose, An-225, 747-8 and the A380 are all of a similar size, especially in width.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s/5/52/Giant_planes_comparison.svg



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User currently offlinespantax From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 3251 times:

(I love this thread)

Well, as crazy as it sounds, it could actually work as a kind of once-in-a-life-flying-experience. Just imagine the ac rounding the world with stops in major cities and then in each one of these just a one-hour (sightseeing) flight. If they charge, let's say, 100 EUR or USD per pax (with beverage, peanuts, leaflet, diplom...) and you multiply 100 x 1.000 = 100.000 EUR-USD per flight, it could work. Just imagine: Monday-Berlin, Tuesday-Amsterdam, Wednesday-München, Thursday-Zürich, Friday-Sat-Sun-Paris... The fact of being the only one, the biggest, the unique, the beast... would attract many people and media attention (for free), I presume. Even the cabin noise or an old-fashion interior wouldn't hurt the bussines case.

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User currently offlinevhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

Could you imagine the queue at customs and immigration. Or even worse waiting for your bags at the carousel.

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