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Why DJ Is EY Partner And Not VS?  
User currently offlineleonardoq From Australia, joined Nov 2011, 49 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Just a silly question: why is DJ an Etihad partner but you actually can't buy tickets to where VS flights to?
Aren't they part of the same group?

[Edited 2012-03-16 08:42:20]


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User currently offlinePezySPU From Croatia, joined Dec 2011, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Um, you refer to Virgin Group? In that case - yes, but just because they codeshare with one airline in the group doesn't mean they have to codeshare with others. Just as an example, they could codeshare with BA, but not with IB, even though BA and IB are in the same group.

User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Quoting leonardoq (Thread starter):
Aren't they part of the same group?


No, they are NOT part of th same "group"! There is no Virgin "Group of Airlines" in the sense of a corporate structure, group board of directors or corporate planning & coordination sections. The only thing that is truely common is that each airline has a licenese from the Virgin Group (UK) to use that brand name.
The Virgin Group owns 51% of VS, which gives it day to day control, they own 25% of VAH, which owns DJ/VA, and I beleive, 25% of VX which is not enough for control of either airline.
So don't expect any great level of cooperation between Virgin airlines, there is NO reason to expect it.

Gemuser



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User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Even though they are under the "Virgin" brand, they each operate as individual airlines.

User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Quoting leonardoq (Thread starter):
why is DJ an Etihad partner but you actually can't buy tickets to where VS flights to?

Further to the above, other than HKG why on earth would DJ want to code share with VS? The only other destination they would pick up is LHR, which pales in comparison with EY's extensive European network.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

because VA offers them something that VS cannot. Access to the Australasian region of Australia/New Zealand and the South pacific. EY also have an arrangement with NZ. VS offers nothing EY that they can't deliver themselves...

User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
Further to the above, other than HKG why on earth would DJ want to code share with VS? The only other destination they would pick up is LHR, which pales in comparison with EY's extensive European network.

Why not, a joint RTW fare using VX, VA, DJ, VS would be nothing more than a joint fare like lots of carrier do. I'd also like to see all the Virgin branded carriers start their own alliance, and maybe start Virgin South America or Virgin Africa, Didn't Virgin Nigeria go bust? This would be keeping customer with a worldwide name and brand recognition for the entire journey. The average lay person world not know there was a huge difference between carriers, they'd just see Virgin on the tail and feel they were flying the same carrier.



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User currently onlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2965 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1598 times:

VS can get VA customers to 1 European city, EY can get them to almost 15... That simple.

User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 6):

Why not, a joint RTW fare using VX, VA, DJ, VS would be nothing more than a joint fare like lots of carrier do. I'd also like to see all the Virgin branded carriers start their own alliance

Not going to happen! The Virgin branded airlines do not have a sifficient "community of interests" make that practical and no one controlls enough of the various companies to make it stick. For example I see little of joint interest between VA & VX, most if not all of VA's connections needs in USA, are satisfied by DL. And frankly even less common interest between VA & VS.

Gemuser



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