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Southwest HOU To South America? Yes!  
User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 5036 posts, RR: 19
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 20016 times:

A news report on television said that Southwest Airlines has been in talks with the Houston city airport management about adding an international terminal at HOU. It stated that Southwest said they intended to start flights to the Caribbean and South America if they can get the facilities. The airport system manager thinks it would be a great idea. There is a proposal being created to be discussed on May 9 to determine the feasibility of it all.
However, Gordon Bethune thinks adding an international terminal to HOU would fracture the city and break the air travel economic boon the city is now enjoying.

The story hasn't made it to the news website yet, I'll post the link when it does.

What do you make of this?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19817 times:

But HOU isn't the international airport in Houston, IAH is. WN just doesn't want to use IAH because it is more expensive. Seems to me the City of Houston can cut a deal with WN on their international flying.

User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19803 times:

I saw it on the local ABC local 13 station and they are to show more this evening.

I'm "torn" on the subject. I have discussed the issue with people at Co/UA and WN and am still weighing both sides. I'd be interested to see the study results (and methodology).

Would it dilute the large UA (and other foreign carrier) presence at IAH or would it mainly stimulate more int'l traffic and provide more connections to places to AUS and DAL and OKC via WN causing both airports to flourish.

I haven't decided yet



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19741 times:

If it doesn't happen at HOU, it will go to a different city and I'm sure the airport system and city don't want that...

BTW... New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, the Bay Area, and S Florida all have more than one "international" airport.

[Edited 2012-03-16 16:02:57]


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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 5036 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19613 times:

I expected maybe some Caribbean service and maybe Cancun from Southwest, but not South America.
The airport system which must approve adding customs to HOU seems happy with the idea. Now the question is who is going to pay for the International Terminal.
And why do they need an international terminal, wouldn't a handful of segregated gates do just fine in the current terminal?



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 19486 times:

HOU was at some point in the near future going to get FIS (possibly EFD too) so this is just a natural extension. I see Mr. Bethune's heart is still in Houston, not Honolulu.


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User currently offlinehhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 19421 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 4):
And why do they need an international terminal, wouldn't a handful of segregated gates do just fine in the current terminal?

They probably want to ensure the ability for future expansion. Plus, most of the flights would probably arrive around the same time, so a handful of gates may not be enough for their initial strategy.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 18505 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 4):

I expected maybe some Caribbean service and maybe Cancun from Southwest, but not South America.

Are you kidding...this will not be a token effort....you need to look only to IAH and UA and (at the range of the 73G/8s) and see which markets WN would go after...remember WN has a lot of possible feed at IAH

MEX, CUN, MTY, GDL, GUA, SAL, SAP, BZE, TGU, PTY, SJO, MGA, POS, BOG, MDE, POS, KIN, MBJ etc etc...
Houston makes an ideal connecting hub.......centrally located



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 18467 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 3):
If it doesn't happen at HOU, it will go to a different city and I'm sure the airport system and city don't want that...

BTW... New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, the Bay Area, and S Florida all have more than one "international" airport.

If they don't go with HOU, then I suppose they could make a run at something out of FLL or MCO...

I imagine WN would use 738s to fly Caribbean and S. American routes from either local... I know AA flies to some northern S. American destinations wit the 738, or at least I think they do (unless I'm wrong and that they're 757s). Wait, I know CO flies IAH-South America with 738s...



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 18422 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):
If they don't go with HOU, then I suppose they could make a run at something out of FLL or MCO...

They are not interested in FLL for intl as of right now...ditto for MCO



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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 787 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18033 times:
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A lot of "ifs" for HOU and would people really pony up the money for a new international teminal when they have IAH?

While SA seems like a natural growth place for WN as it's US market has matured, but HOU seems like the ideal place for SW to launch South American Service. However, this still seems like years in the making if it's going to happen at HOU so I'll believe it when I see it.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17930 times:

Well, remember the master plan at HOU calls for an east concourse. Its supposed to go in the place of the old A concourse.


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User currently offlineaer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17830 times:

If HOU doesn't go, would SAT or MSY?


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User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17703 times:

I guess my first question would be where would they build this "international terminal"? I could see it as a concourse where the old A concourse used to be. Those continuing on to domestic flights could then end up going through security at the main security area.

While it would affect IAH & UA, I think it would take passengers away from carriers like Vivaaerobus and possibly AM and TA. Also while not as cheap, they can definitely poach some of Spirit's customers .

If this all happens, it might actually make me want to take a visit out to HOU a few years from now!



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User currently offlineVarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17587 times:

Quoting type-rated (Thread starter):
Southwest said they intended to start flights to the Caribbean and South America

Where would they fly from Houston to South America, using a 737?


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6764 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17453 times:

Quoting type-rated (Thread starter):
The story hasn't made it to the news website yet, I'll post the link when it does.

If anyone is interested, the Channel 13 story is here: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8584407

Quoting type-rated (Reply 4):
And why do they need an international terminal, wouldn't a handful of segregated gates do just fine in the current terminal?

I wouldn't take the phrasing "international terminal" in a news story any more literally than one would take "runway" or "tarmac." IIRC the master plan for the airport includes another concourse on or near the footprint of the now-demolished Concourse A; that new concourse would likely incorporate international gates.

Quoting type-rated (Thread starter):
However, Gordon Bethune thinks adding an international terminal to HOU would fracture the city and break the air travel economic boon the city is now enjoying.

I don't exactly understand how international service from HOU "fracture[s]" the city any more than the multiple business districts like Downtown, the West Loop/Galleria, or Woodlands Town Center. It would, however, force CO to compete for international traffic (to Mexico/Central America/near South America/Caribbean) from Houston, which is the real issue.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 4):
The airport system which must approve adding customs to HOU seems happy with the idea. Now the question is who is going to pay for the International Terminal.

IMO if WN wants an international facility at HOU, they should be the ones paying for it (along with any other carriers which might want to use it).

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
WN just doesn't want to use IAH because it is more expensive.

WN doesn't want to use IAH for international service because they have no presence at IAH; they'd have to fill flights entirely with O&D traffic. At HOU, they have over 130 daily flights to help feed any potential international service.


User currently offlineATL From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17407 times:

So that would be the first time Southwest flies out of the US? Mhm... Why was not doing so up until now beneficial for them? And why isn't it anymore?

User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3956 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17379 times:

Quoting Varigb707 (Reply 14):

Where would they fly from Houston to South America, using a 737?

Likely some of the same places that CO........er....UA flies 737s to S.AM from IAH.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 17182 times:

Quoting Varigb707 (Reply 14):
Where would they fly from Houston to South America, using a 737?

probably could get as far as LIM.

There are some huge markets in LatAm from HOU......i bet they are looking at UAs MSY-IAH-SAP loads and just salivating....



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3355 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16950 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):
If they don't go with HOU, then I suppose they could make a run at something out of FLL or MCO...


Quoting yellowtail (Reply 9):
They are not interested in FLL for intl as of right now...ditto for MCO

Even if they were interested in FLL, the only terminal with international gates is on the opposite side of Southwest's terminal, and it's already being used to capacity by Spirit and other airlines' international flights. In terms of arrivals, it's a madhouse between 6 and 7 PM, when every international gate is occupied.


User currently offlinedfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16797 times:

Quoting ATL (Reply 16):
So that would be the first time Southwest flies out of the US? Mhm... Why was not doing so up until now beneficial for them? And why isn't it anymore?

Because adding international capabilities increases their overhead costs. To date, WN has stayed focused on the U.S. market because they have had enough growth opportunities that there has been no reason to go international.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 15):
IMO if WN wants an international facility at HOU, they should be the ones paying for it (along with any other carriers which might want to use it).

I wouldn't put it past WN if the airport starts dragging its heels. WN planned to finance the construction of the BFI terminal they proposed around 2005.


User currently offlineDariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16688 times:

Quoting aer (Reply 12):
If HOU doesn't go, would SAT or MSY?

That would be my guess. Both of them are already deemed an international airport with Customs. However, DAL may also be an option for WN, once 2014 comes around with the end of the Wright Amendment.



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16161 times:

Quoting DariusBieber (Reply 21):
However, DAL may also be an option for WN, once 2014 comes around with the end of the Wright Amendment.

Per the Wright phase-out, DAL is restricted to domestic flights. All international passenger traffic in/out of the Metroplex must use DFW.



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User currently offlineATLgaUSA From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16136 times:

Quoting DariusBieber (Reply 21):
That would be my guess. Both of them are already deemed an international airport with Customs. However, DAL may also be an option for WN, once 2014 comes around with the end of the Wright Amendment.

Neither New Orleans nor San Antonio have the corporate base necessary to sustain international operations to multiple cities. Southwest will use a city with substantial O&D to many South American cities as its South American jumping off point. It'll be some combination of LAX, PHX, HOU, MCO, and/or FLL. I would also expect a number of MDW-Mexico flights. New Orleans and San Antonio may get a one-off flight to Cancun or, in the case of New Orleans, San Pedro Sula, but neither city will see multiple international departures per day.


User currently offlinetotesen From Mexico, joined Dec 2008, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16020 times:

Quoting DariusBieber (Reply 21):
If HOU doesn't go, would SAT or MSY?

Well SAT, is already begining international expansion on behalf of Southwest,Air Tran is opening Mexico City and Cancun, this year from San Antonio.



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25 mayor : Actually, they don't......they don't fly out of IAH but HOU......unless that was a typo
26 LipeGIG : CCS and BOG as oil markets (the first more consolidated) But they can't reach GIG.
27 SXDFC : Would be interesting if they were looking at giving Rio some LUV.. Kinda curious to know if a decent amount of folks in Brazil, and in other parts of
28 QANTAS747-438 : Huh? How?
29 Concordski : I could see west-origin traffic funneling through HOU and east-origin traffic funneling through ATL for caribbean, central america, and south america.
30 LipeGIG : Some know, but more business people. Southwest history (specially the profits history) is very interesting. About going to deep South America, only i
31 slcdeltarumd11 : Southwest will not move to IAH if they cant get this they will simply fly out of another city. They want to have connections so there are other option
32 par13del : The authorities would have to define their turf and priorities, be it the airport, airlines or regional authorities. A shitf in traffic is a shift in
33 LAXdude1023 : I think its an excellent idea, but lets keep this in perspective. The notion that WN is going to somehow duplicate UA's network at IAH is absurd. I al
34 STT757 : This is an interesting dilemma for the Houston folks, on one hand they are lucky to have such opportunities for two international airports, on the oth
35 aer : Yes and no, because flights would be operated by FL for now, since they're the ones with the international certificate (or something)
36 BigGSFO : This is a radical deviation from their proven business model. International bilaterals, unless it's an open skies country, won't allow them to operate
37 YULWinterSkies : Well, then it's time that it becomes so. WN annoys UA, so UA is trying whatever they can against them. Having WN operating domestic at HOU and intl a
38 Post contains links and images point2point : It seems that it's official that the battle now begins...... http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...ional-flights-triggers-3414923.php and it also is
39 huxrules : Houston is certinaly large enough to have international traffic out of both Iah and hou. Wn would have to rebuild all their connections to Iah and tha
40 usflyguy : Empty threat from United as they aren't going to abandon their largest hub that is the best geographical location for a Latin and South American hub.
41 AAIL86 : Agreed. WN would likely generate new traffic to Mexico and central America - for example- perhaps family X flew home once every two years to visit re
42 rwy04lga : Any possibility of TPA? Any pros or cons?
43 bjorn14 : UA or WN aren't going anyplace!
44 cjpark : And here it starts again. Make another exception we are Southwest.
45 dadoftyler : There is no reason Houston can't support two FIS airports. What's your point? (As if I don't know) DoT
46 LOWS : Where would WN go if they were to move operations to IAH?
47 FWAERJ : Different story. I read once that Glenn Tilton made two conditions for UA/CO merger negotiations: that United was the surviving brand name and that t
48 mayor : I think you might find that those pax that fly international expect more than WN's normal standards of "service". Is WN willing to change that much o
49 IAHworldflyer : First of all, neither the KTRK report, nor the Houston Chronicle's report have WN saying anything about flying to South America from HOU. Both reports
50 cjpark : No tyler the point is there is no reason why Houston should have to support to FIS airports. Like I said here it starts all over again. Make another
51 usflyguy : Southwest is paying for it, the city is not. If it isn't built there, the flights and passengers will be going through a different city which means H
52 Cubsrule : This seems to be a common sentiment among Houstonians, and based on my experience in Chicago with the MDW expansion, I don't understand why. HOU will
53 PPVRA : If someone else wants to launch international flights out of HOU, they can have a meeting with WN and the airport managers to figure out how to split
54 boilerla : The threats didn't involve abandoning the hub, which would indeed be near impossible. It did hint that UA would reconsider deploying the 787 out of I
55 cjpark : Why should the tax payers in this country have to pay for two separate Customs and Immigration offices at the airports in Houston when the one at IAH
56 Cubsrule : Well, taxpayers have funded 2 commercial FIS facilities in metro New York, 3 commercial FIS facilities in metro Los Angeles, 3 commercial FIS facilit
57 Post contains images LoneStarMike : The article in the Chronicle mentioned around 25 international flights per day using 5 gates at HOU. LoneStarMike
58 sccutler : Deja vu all over again. --- You have a marvelous point. Fact is, all we really need is, maybe, one customs facility on each coast... Or maybe just on
59 ScottB : The FL certificate is gone; the issue for now is the WN reservations system. But it's likely by the time that an international facility could be cons
60 N1120A : I'm guessing that "South America" includes Central America to the person reporting.
61 BCEaglesCO757 : If WN is going to fly into CUN,MEX,MTY,GDL, and ESPECIALLY SAP,SAL,GUA,PTY,POS,TGU,MGA,and SJO I suggest they be quick about getting those 73-800's. I
62 BCEaglesCO757 : No Houston is no longer the homewtown, but the Hub is the largest in the entire United system. There's still some captial in that itself IMO. Home to
63 SJOtoLIR : UA flies the IAH-LIM sector with 763. I'm not sure about the suitable range for the 737 in such route. Regards.
64 BCEaglesCO757 : The 800 possibly. But have they even got their first one yet ? When we had it on the 57' 200 LIM-IAH was bursting at the seams. Back of the plane was
65 COflyerBOS : Interesting. Tonight's 3rd story on the local NBC news station was about Mayor Annise Parker and her frustrations with United. Seems as if the mayor,
66 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Here's the link to that report & video United frustrates Houston Mayor LoneStarMike
67 Post contains links boilerla : You mean besides they all have higher O&D compared to Houston? Apparently, people in Houston just don't like to travel, according to this thread
68 COflyerBOS : In fairness, part of the reason the O&D is low in the Houston market is because of airfares. They are astronomical here. I know of lots of folks w
69 usflyguy : I think they should close the FIS at IAH and move it to HOU... that would be fair. Why? Because United has no competition to those destinations. IAH
70 cjpark : SC were you buzzed when you sent that reply? Tell us all why should we have to pay for the DHS to have to duplicate services in Houston just to suit
71 ouboy79 : Well let's be honest. What you are suggesting is for WN to split its hub ops in Houston between two airports, right? Or do you honestly think that IA
72 dfwrevolution : Cjpark is not a UA homer, but he is critical of WN for seeking to use alternate facilities. He lives in the North Dallas area and was also vocal agai
73 SJOtoLIR : Agreed. The 738 version flies the PTY-EZE sector which is farther than HOU-LIM. Regards.
74 dadoftyler : No need to insult him...and his post--which I totally understand was tongue-in-cheek--was no more ridiculous than yours. I get it. You don't like Sou
75 msp747 : I think it's funny that a person from a state that prides itself on being "pro-business" and is willing to hand out big tax breaks to lure new busine
76 2travel2know2 : While building a separated international concourse with F.I.S. @ HOU seems far fetched right-now, it's quite possible that HOU could before years end
77 PPVRA : Paying for another FIS = tax increases. That's not business friendly. But, I am not against HOU accepting international services, as long as they wor
78 Cubsrule : How do you know?
79 freakyrat : Hobby already has US Customs for private aircraft they just have to put an FIS in the terminal extension which would likely be built where the old "A"
80 Post contains images Varigb707 : Oh yeah,,,
81 FlyingSicilian : As others have posted, HOU is already an "international" airport with CBP. Also re: the tax increases, don't forgot the pax pay for part of the facili
82 drerx7 : It isn't far fetched, the original reconstruction of HOU included the east concourse, there is already space for it and construction could begin tomo
83 hohd : WN should start international service and start giving UA some competition. Their fares are creeping higher and higher. WN can also expect the multipl
84 drerx7 : Well, this I agree with and eventhough I am bitter about that and I support WN international efforts at HOU; I still will fly UA. The thing that is i
85 GSPSPOT : More choice is always better, IMHO. Build it and let the market dictate!
86 sccutler : It really is an interesting situation; assuming Southwest is willing to pay the cost of creating the additional required facilities at HOU, it is hard
87 GSPSPOT : All of which begs the question.... Why doesn't WN just move their HQ down I-45 a bit to a larger, less-restricted airport?
88 LAXdude1023 : Spend billions for the sake of having your HQ next to a slightly larger operation?
89 boilerla : And that's what UA is threatening Houston with. The 788 and the A350s can go to ORD, SFO, and LAX is basically the stick they're wielding. Not a very
90 Be77 : Please let WN expand into the Caribbean from Houston. It will almost guarentee that at least one regular traveler will be added to the list of people
91 ScottB : Whether or not a 787 or A350 brings in higher landing fees than a 738 is immaterial to the Houston Airport System, as the city can't take that revenu
92 drerx7 : True, but come April we have a large influx of 752 flying in exchange for some 738.
93 BCEaglesCO757 : Favors aren't owed to UA. But again......... The city still holds the status of having the largest hub in the entire system of the worlds largest airl
94 Post contains images point2point : You know, this is more than likely the thinking here, and probably (just my guess) it will let WN build what it wants at HOU, and then find a way for
95 drerx7 : My sentiments exactly and probably the best for Houston.
96 Schweigend : 25 daily int'l flights for WN at HOU would seem to represent at least eight new cities served, using a rough average of 3 daily flights per destinait
97 cjpark : Airlines are not like other business that buy property and build either their own plants or office complexes. Outside of the headquarters of the airl
98 yellowtail : Simply not true. There are many cases where airlines build their own terminals. a few cases where they actualyl own the airport No, but they will use
99 drerx7 : The international terminal expansion they are talking about is the new Terminal B...all other international airlines use D - which if/when its expand
100 cjpark : OK, where are these airline owned airports in the US? The airlines may agree to help finance the construction of the terminals but again in the US th
101 2travel2know2 : Out of WN current figures @ HOU, how much % is HOU O/D and how much % is connecting traffic? WN doesn't seem to be a hub-style airline like UA(CO) is.
102 IAHworldflyer : A quick look at UA fares out of IAH for 6 weeks out with Thurs. departure and Sunday return shows that they will graciously take you to BZE for a nice
103 LAXdude1023 : I doubt that as well. Not nearly enough demand. I could see them using FLL.
104 ScottB : Cities could take money out of their airport facilities by forgoing subsidies from the federal government for those facilities. However, we have publ
105 aer : For some reason I think that STL should jump in and bid for a few WN international cities, they're as well connected to the network as HOU. Back to to
106 aznmadsci : Terminal B will be equipped with FIS facilities to handle RJ flights from Mexico and probably some 737 international flights to provide better gate u
107 drerx7 : Not WN, Houston has the O&D and is a larger operation than Bergstrom. WN would not go through the trouble of stirring up the wasp nest is they di
108 aer : Thanks both for the clarification.
109 jonathanxxxx : I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't for the congestion WN would be all over FLL international right now. Same with JetBlue.
110 LAXdude1023 : I should clarify that I could see them using FLL before AUS, not necesarily before HOU because FLL already has lots of service to the Caribbean and L
111 jonathanxxxx : Right along with HOU although I don't think it has to be debated that most large cities in the WN system (STL, MDW, BWI, PHX, LAS) that don't already
112 drerx7 : Not exactly. Hobby doesn't at all. If you are referring to Houston as a market including IAH (which I assume you are), it still doesn't. UA is the on
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