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US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th  
User currently offlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 358 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10958 times:

US has loaded a few more DCA flights to schedule effective Jul 11. There is still no beyond perimeter flight added yet unfortunately. Flights added tonight are:

AGS 1xCRJ
MSP 2xE75 1xE70
VPS 1xCRJ (this makes 2x)
XNA 1xCRJ
YUL 3xCRJ


[Edited 2012-03-16 19:02:03]

[Edited 2012-03-16 19:02:33]

84 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7959 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10746 times:

looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?


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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 955 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10712 times:

Quoting boberito6589 (Thread starter):
AGS 1xCRJ

Not seeing this on the schedule, or thru flight searches. This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.


User currently offlineCRJ900LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10603 times:

I see none of these on the schedule either or on the ETS page.

User currently offlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10605 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
Not seeing this on the schedule, or thru flight searches. This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

It should be on usairways.com sometime tonight
It will be US 3599 AGS DCA 1835 2017
and US 3598 DCA AGS 1620 1807


User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10552 times:

Wow XNA. Good for them

User currently offlineCRJ900LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10541 times:

Oh great even better that Air Wisconsin is flying that AGS flight. Hope they (AGS) are planning for canceled and delayed flights already. PSA should be flying this, not Air Wisconsin.

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8766 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10500 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):

looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?

The MSP x3 on Ejet is practically mainline. That is pretty big news.


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4142 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10357 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?

Considering most of the new DCA flying is being funded by cuts at LGA - which was mainly express flying - a lot of DCA will be Express, within perimeter and especially to small markets like XNA and AGS. And as Flighty said the E170/E175 is practically a mainline plane.
I really like the MSP adds. The route needs some more competition.


User currently offlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10265 times:

In my OP I was trying to ask if anyone knows how many slots are still left not allocated to any flying? Or do these flights use up all the slots gained from DL?

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10137 times:

Quoting boberito6589 (Thread starter):
MSP 2xE75 1xE70

Excellent. Nice to see non-stop competition now on DCA-MSP. Was hoping for mainline, but that's a great start nonetheless.


User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10052 times:
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Hoping we'll eventually be seeing MKE-DCA with US.

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10049 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 8):
I really like the MSP adds. The route needs some more competition.

   Hahahahahahahaha! You really think US & DL "compete?"

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8766 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10024 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.

Yes, but DC can afford to go to Augusta.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
  Hahahahahahahaha! You really think US & DL "compete?"

Odd comment. At MSP, no. In Washington, sure. Was it a notable monopoly route, yes.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3455 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9492 times:

US is poised to make a true hub there at DCA, it will be a great connection and O/D market, they could fly just about anyplace, within perimeter, and take any flight out of perimeter they can get and make it all work, US is poised better in DCA than LGA, at least DCA is getting some exemptions to fly beyond the posted distance, while LGA is not.


AA AC AQ AS BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OO OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WC WN
User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9477 times:

Yeah i think US is in the process of a very profitable and successful hub in time. For the people that think US should have so much mainline right out of the gate remember that this is bascially a move from LGA which was mostly RJs and they want to build the market not fly a bunch of empty planes around. This is US trying to build into becoming the premier DCA hub airline. Destinations and plane types will certainly change many times over as they see how the market does. Some routes will be successes and others will fail miserably. Just like DL at LGA some flights will be total successes and others will fail miserably no ones knows yet these things take time and experimentation.

User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9229 times:

US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

I welcome their expanded service however! This is route I will definitely use.


User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9052 times:

I am really hoping that US opens up GRR as a station.

DCA-GRR 2x CRJ
PHL-GRR 3x CRJ
CLT-GRR 2x CRJ


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4142 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8886 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 16):
US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

US is growing a nice little presence at MSP. I was surprised at the number of flights out of here, on everything from E-jet on up to A321.

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 17):
I am really hoping that US opens up GRR as a station.

It would begin with a PHL flight, but I think as long as the UA codeshare is in place US will be looking in other directions.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8788 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 16):
US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

I welcome their expanded service however! This is route I will definitely use.

May use the old DL gate; the one currently being used by ZK. Outside of them and sometimes AA, it sits unused pretty much all day.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineflyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8418 times:

Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

User currently onlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4229 posts, RR: 37
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8258 times:

Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):
Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

Let me guess... RJ's?



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User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1082 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8223 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.

US is taking a page from the pre-bankruptcy AA playbook and connecting several strong military communities in secondary markets (AGS, OAJ, FAY, VPS, etc.) to DCA.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8185 times:

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 22):
US is taking a page from the pre-bankruptcy AA playbook and connecting several strong military communities in secondary markets (AGS, OAJ, FAY, VPS, etc.) to DCA.

      Those booking on DTS will likely take the non-stop vs a connection on the GSA even if its more expensive



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7621 times:

Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 21):
Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):
Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

Let me guess... RJ's?

You are right, it was in my OP but also got edited out...It is DCA-YYZ 4x CRJ


25 Noise : Any press release? Any official source whatsoever for these additions?
26 boberito6589 : You can find these flights on usairways.com?
27 D L X : Could the reason behind using all RJs on these new flights be in part because of gate space at DCA? For the time being, there is simply not much space
28 FlyPNS1 : Most of these routes don't justify mainline and US's mainline fleet is stretched pretty thin with minimal growth on the horizon. US has plenty of RJ'
29 D L X : Write your congressman. My understanding is that under federal law, DCA is only allowed to have 44 gates. Therefore, it has exactly 44. If US were al
30 SANFan : I'm confused. Are there more slots available for more flights that could use additional gates? I didn't think so. I thought the airport was pretty mu
31 D L X : The new slots must be shoehorned into the existing gates. THat's not much of a problem for every airline except US, which has clearly exceeded the ma
32 frntman : This is long overdue! Looking forward to flying this frequently!
33 PA727 : Wow, didn't see XNA coming. Thought PHX or PHL would have come long before DCA. Would love to see PHX come online since geographically logical West Co
34 WesternA318 : Only slightly off topic, but PHL-SLC has been axed...grrr....
35 boberito6589 : A casualty of increased fuel prices
36 SouthernDC9 : I'm happy to see DCA-XNA from a convenience standpoint (I wasn't flying the route when AA covered it for a bit) but hate the idea of 2+ hours on a CR
37 Post contains images PHX787 : Wouldn't they have to get FAA permission to fly to PHX since it (I believe) is out of the radius? Or have they already gotten that slot already, and
38 usflyer msp : He is talking about XNA-PHX not DCA - PHX (which US already flies 3x daily)
39 PHX787 : Oh my mistake, sorry. Yeah XNA-PHX might be iffy. How's the traffic out of Fayetteville?
40 gigneil : Such a building could easily have 1 gate number, as many express ops around the country do. But I'm uncertain where to put it. I'm also uncertain why
41 usflyer msp : Terminal A is a historic landmark and as such is difficult to alter in any significant way.
42 kgaiflyer : Even AC flies E75s on the route. So no problem.
43 kgaiflyer : He means the 'A' terminal banjo rather than the historic, old terminal building which houses a museum. Myself -- I've been boarding planes in the ban
44 Noise : Flew out of there two weeks ago with AC to YUL. You're totally right, the Banjo is noting to write home about at all. Why can't they renovate it to m
45 knope2001 : Here are the 30 businest local city pairs from DCA in Q3 of 2011, including if US/US Express serves them. The markets noted as USUA are served by FF p
46 D L X : Don't you think calling it all the same gate, while still actually having a whole lot of gates, would violate the law that says you can only have 44
47 southwest737500 : I fly to XNA every 4-6 weeks out of CLT. the flight usually packs from 43-50 passengers. I would imagine they could support a flight. But the flight
48 southwest737500 : I'm hoping for 2x CLT-TUL CRJ
49 southwest737500 : It's not as bad as you think.
50 Post contains images PA727 : Loads and yields seem strong given the corporate travel. Seem to be growing slowly at 1.1/1.2 million pax/yr. AA and UA dominate w/DL and US three an
51 Post contains images SANFan : Hmmmmm. Thank you so much for the list knope'. I find it very interesting in my own way (which is probably quite different than the points you are tr
52 Post contains images PHX787 : Please do so It makes sense, to a degree.
53 FlyPNS1 : I've heard of this 44 gate rule, but never seen any documentation that supports it. Has anyone seen any documentation about this?
54 LOWS : I think CLT-OKC would be a better choice, and one I would use when going to visit my mom, but it seems unlikely to happen. Which is unfortunate, beca
55 saab2000 : Is this even remotely likely? They closed GRR a few years back. I'd love to see it (I live in GRR) but I'll believe it when I see it. They do everyth
56 southwest737500 : They should add them together. TUL is not that small I know OKC is the biggest in the state but I know they can support 100 seats a day con a CRJ. I
57 usflyer msp : When US originally announced the slot swap, MSN and GRR were listed as destinations to be added from DCA. Now that F9 is flying both of these routes,
58 LOWS : Looking at the PDEW report, only about 15 pax in each direction OKC-CLT and TUL-CLT, so maybe it's understandable that US doesn't open up the route.
59 Post contains links knope2001 : No problem! Here's the source I use.... http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-5...le_files/consumerairfarereport.htm The stats have (unhappily) been inc
60 ouboy79 : Always got to be careful using that report. A lot of times if there isn't nonstop service, you aren't seeing the true O&D market on a particular
61 SANFan : Thank you mucho! I thought I'd checked all the other tables but obviously not carefully enough. bb
62 yyz717 : and things come full circle. USExpress operated 3x daily YYZ-DCA CRJ a few years ago.
63 pvd757 : Looks like they also loaded a 3rd DCA-BUF flight.
64 yegbey01 : I am quite thrilled with US adding YYZ. Long overdue indeed. Finally, the DC-Toronto market is getting good dose of competition - with AC and US on th
65 usflyer msp : BUF-DCA has historically been 3x daily.
66 TOMMY767 : they should opt for DCA-EWR. Only UA commuter jets and props are flying the route.
67 apodino : I don't know if PSA has a domicile in DCA or not, but if they don't that is a better reason why Air Wisconsin makes sense on this flight. I think USA
68 erj170 : IMHO, ZW needs to be pushing to either get some E70/E75/CR9s or some Q400/ATR42/ATR72 to diversify their fleet. I think every major airline has state
69 Post contains images WesternA318 : Yeah, I know, I was seriously hoping to use it this summer on my annual trip to Greece, but, I'm toting a 10 year old, my finacee and my parents who
70 pvd757 : I see that there are only 2 DCA-BUF flights during April, May and June and saw a 3rd for July. I was actually surprised that it is only at 2/3 flight
71 southwest737500 : Is that based on connecting traffic or just from clt I would collapse if that is connecting traffic. It has to be just fromCLT
72 LOWS : That was the number of passengers going to CLT from OKC and TUL and return. Origin and destination only. If you look at the report, it indicates that
73 gigneil : On such a short stage, I fully support UA choice. I wish it were all Q400. Anything else, imho, is super irresponsible - both fiscally and environmen
74 TOMMY767 : Uh.....no
75 gigneil : Uh. Yes. Flying a big jet on a 150nm stage unless you're carrying 150+ pax per flight is irresponsible, and they aren't doing it and US can't. Hourly
76 yyz717 : I agree with you on several levels: customer choice of flights, smoothing passenger flows thru airports thru the day, greater revenue opportunities.
77 Post contains images gigneil : An almost extreme example don't you think. Hourly 773s is still pretty outstanding customer choice. Quarter hourly routes wouldn't be superior in term
78 Post contains images yyz717 : Yes fellow Neil, an extreme example perhaps. But everytime I fly out of EWR, and I'm stuck in a line of 25 Q400's and E145's, I think wouldn't it be n
79 HPRamper : You can't have a comprehensive hub without serving smaller communities with regional-type aircraft. Now, if we were to say that flights between these
80 southwest737500 : The route would do fine because of the connecting traffic
81 usairways85 : Also flts within the Northeast routinely have horrible on-time percentages, for every airline. Because when the likes of LGA/JFK/EWR/PHL/DCA/IAD have
82 TOMMY767 : Well if BOS can get a mixture of 757, A320, 738, and 739, from EWR why can't DCA? Why does DCA get a more 'environmentally friendly' Q400? EDIT: but
83 apodino : It's pretty simple. UA connects a ton of pax on BOS-EWR as the location of the EWR makes it ideal for BOS passengers to connect to just about anywher
84 Post contains links knope2001 : Today's official release describes this as the "final phase" in US Airways' plan. So while they can always make changes, it sounds like this is "it" f
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