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Dushi Korsou- Caribbean Aviation Thread 96  
User currently onlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15735 times:

Greetings once again to all A.net patrons!!!

Welcome to the 96th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread. As we move along the chain of ABC Islands in the Dutch Caribbean, no one can deny the beauty, adventure and entertainment that personifies the picturesque isle of Curacao . We are also honored to have a regular A.net forum contributor and photographer from this wonderful island; that being our very own A388 (Roger Cannegieter). In his own way, A388 has put CUR on the map with his artistic and consistently high quality aviation photography. Cheers to you A388! Continue the great work!




Curaçao is the largest and most populous of the three ABC islands (Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao) of the Lesser Antilles. It has a land area of 171 square miles. As of 1 January 2009, population stood at 141,766. The name "Curaçao" has become associated with a shade of blue, because of the deep-blue version of the liqueur named Curaçao. Today, locally, the island is known as "Dushi Korsou".

The original inhabitants of Curaçao were Arawak Amerindians. The first Europeans to see the island were members of a Spanish expedition under the leadership of Alonso de Ojeda in 1499. The Spaniards enslaved most of the indigenous population and forcibly relocated the survivors to other colonies where workers were needed. The island was occupied by the Dutch in 1634. The Dutch West India Company founded the capital of Willemstad on the banks of an inlet called the 'Schottegat'. During the 18th and 19th centuries, the island changed hands among the British, the French, and the Dutch several times. Stable Dutch rule returned in 1815, at the end of the Napoleonic wars, when the island was incorporated into the colony of Curaçao and Dependencies.



Curaçao is known for its coral reefs, used for scuba diving. The beaches on the south side contain many popular diving spots. An unusual feature of Curaçao diving is that the sea floor drops steeply within a few hundred feet of the shore, and the reef can easily be reached without a boat. This drop-off is known as the "blue edge." Strong currents and lack of beaches make the rocky northern coast dangerous for swimming and diving, but experienced divers sometimes dive there from boats when conditions permit. The southern coast is very different and offers remarkably calm waters. The coastline of Curaçao features many bays and inlets, many of them suitable for mooring.

Dutch Architecture at its best.





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*************News Feed***********
Caribbean Tourism sees 3.3 percent increase in 2011 (28.3 million visitors)
GND still wrestles with financial woes from Taiwan. Airport still operational.
CAL's 9Y-TTC and 9Y-TTC ATR72-600s near their delivery dates to POS.
EZjet reports healthy loads for Dec. and Jan.
Redjet suspends all operations as of midnight Mar.17th, 2012
CAL shed 150 Jamaican employees as airport customer service is outsourced.
UP plans to break even in the future despite recent $US24m loss for 2009/2010
AZ looks at GCM service
Suriname Airways to start nonstop GEO-MIA service 3x weekly from April 3rd, 2012.
New Canadian-made ILS system installed and fully operational at GEO
CAL shoots down Tobago's request for extra US flights citing low current load factors.
Air Caraibes promises 100 free tickets for poor to travel.
EZjet said to be bleeding excessive cash daily; leaves pax stranded with no aircraft to operate schedule.
EZjet to use SY B738 alongside B763 during summer to expand operations from POS to NA.
CAL breaks record for no. of pax carried during Carnival period.
CAL to start nonstop POS-LGW 4x weekly with ex LAN 763s on June 24th.
Jet One Express CV-340 freighter crashes into lagoon near SJU after pilots experienced difficulties

Happy Postings as Always!




It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15684 times:

Thanks BW424 once again for the wonderful forum

"The Barbados-based airline REDjet announced late Friday it was suspending all flights from Saturday after ten months in the air in a bid to “protect the long term interests of the business”, the company said.
“REDjet has no alternative but to suspend flights from 23.59 p.m. on 16 March until further notice,” said a message posted on the airline’s website and emailed to the media.
But the airline said a further update would be given on Monday and said “all tickets for future travel will remain valid”."
http://www.antiguaobserver.com/?p=72637

After reading their press release the management of RD seem to be delusional in thinking the Government of Barbados should invest money in a private venture. Judging from the blogs it seems that most people knew RD business model was unsustainable, well its hard for the employees but at the end of that day competition was good while it lasted.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15653 times:

Well they lasted longer than I thought the government of Barbados probably might give them a concession with landing fees if anything.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15622 times:

So red jet is done and BW has successfully defended itself.....this will hopefully give BW some more momentum.


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15573 times:

Sad to see Digicel's airline venture RedJet go bust.
Maybe someone else (with lots of aviation and local-ways knowledge) will attempt to start up an U2 like airline in the region one day.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15542 times:

my friend in TT just said that BW and LI are setin' fireworks at Piarco... So sad but we all could see that comin' guys... I just hope there'll be another Rd in the near future BUT WITH THE RIGHT PLANES and regional gov's willingness to help with authorizations etc...

User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 15491 times:

Someone posted this on their page

"1. You say you are performing extremely well and are willing to continue but cannot. This is a confusing assembly of words and I would like that further explained. Either you are so successful you want to continue or you’re so successful that you are not interested in spending time in this region any longer and would like to explore other profitable avenues.

2. You claim passenger numbers have continued to increase with the carrier because they like a clean aircraft and affordable ticket prices, yet immediately after you say REDjet has no alternative but to suspend flights. Not adding up again. Please explain.

3. The carrier claims it does not receive assistance of any kind from the State unlike other airlines (which we know is CAL), but hopes it “will be given a small part” of the help others receive. Are you cash strapped or are you successful? Why "suspend" the service if you are successful - which you claim? The communication is just not adding up REDjet. Giving you opportunity to clear the air.

4. What’s the real issue here? Be square with us."

There are complaints from customers that the airline's phones are off and cannot get an email for their refund. What is more entailing is the way they did this, they shut down the airline a mare 5hrs before midnight.

Here was an undercapitalized company starting a business in a region notorious for airline bust. Put that together with it going up against a airline subsidized by taxpayers and $100 oil and you have all the ingredients for a failure. No amount of Digicel business success would have turned RD into a success.

Operating in the Caribbean on multi-short-sector routes will always be an expensive exercise, no matter how you approach it. If you are anything less than very efficient, the expense is eye-watering!
here are inescapable costs to operating aircraft. The cost per mile of operating aircraft increases at an alarming rate once you get below about 300 miles. That is why LIAT is doomed to be "high cost" operators, because they operate almost all their flights as a series of (expensive) short hops. The occasional longer sector cannot offset the accumulation of short sector costs.
On a really long haul it is possible to get down to a cost of under US$0.07 per passenger mile, but sectors under 200 miles go up to US$0.25 t0 $0.35 per mile. Tobago at about 50 and CAL looses money flying that route.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 15478 times:

So have the aircraft been returned or are they all parked in BGI?

User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15388 times:

OK, moveing on..... some pics of my trip to Curaçao in 2009!  Dushi dushi dushi island! korsou pa me ta dushi!

or like the Makemba (local badword for dutch people) say ALTIJD GEZELLIG!








User currently offlinefpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15309 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
UP plans to break even in the future despite recent $US24m loss for 2009/2010

I would really love to see them do that. I've heard them say that every year, yet they receive annual budgeted subsidies from the taxpayers. Maybe they are "banking" on the Vision airlines Wetlease for the FPO flights and their new addition to fleet in the fall of 2012. Time will tell.


User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15305 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 4):
Sad to see Digicel's airline venture RedJet go bust.

I do hope they get a second chance.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 4):
Maybe someone else (with lots of aviation and local-ways knowledge) will attempt to start up an U2 like airline in the region one day.

There is no real incentive to do so. It was truly sad to see how the Governments treated REDJet. They were right to complain about incentives LI and BW received but also remember several foreign carriers get incentives also.

My main beef with everything is why the governments in the Caribbean always talk about local people investing locally and create jobs to benefit the region but do everything to knock them down when they step to the plate but when some foreigner comes in and sets up something which is 100% foreign owned and send more money outside the region they go all out to help that entity even bending or breaking to rules to get it done.


User currently offlinefpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15293 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 10):
My main beef with everything is why the governments in the Caribbean always talk about local people investing locally and create jobs to benefit the region but do everything to knock them down when they step to the plate but when some foreigner comes in and sets up something which is 100% foreign owned and send more money outside the region they go all out to help that entity even bending or breaking to rules to get it done.

So true, similiar thing happened to Trinity Air Bahamas I believe. The other regional airlines in the Bahamas that are local owned seem to be having competition with UP on some routes and feel the playing field is not equal.


User currently offlinedivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 15086 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
AZ looks at GCM service

Any links to where this news is coming from????? Being what I thought was "in the know" here for GCM traffic, this is really interesting news for our island!


Sad to see Red Jet go, I wish that sometimes Governments would not be allowed to interfere with airlines and their competition, as it would make for some more interesting flights/airlines around!

This isnt the first time thought that BW have made the TT government work for them (yes I know their state owned!). I heard that DL was interested in flying to POS from ATL, and BW said that if that route was to be allowed, they would stop flying! I mean if they flew to ATL I could understand but when they dont, its crazy!



My dream, is to fly, over the rainbow, so high!
User currently offlineBW985 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Nov 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14986 times:

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 12):
This isnt the first time thought that BW have made the TT government work for them (yes I know their state owned!). I heard that DL was interested in flying to POS from ATL, and BW said that if that route was to be allowed, they would stop flying! I mean if they flew to ATL I could understand but when they dont, its crazy!

I don't know where you heard that, but it is definitively not true!
DL did fly between ATL and POS and even flew once a week from ATL to TAB after receiving an incentive from the TT government. But DL decided themselves that even with the incentive it was not profitable, so they stopped flyting to POS and TAB. Surprisingly their JFK-POS services were suspended as well.

It is very sad that Redjet has had to suspend their services, especially for the staff and passengers who got stranded. While it lasted, Redjet was great for customers in the Caribbean as they had more choices and there was more competion.

I do not agree however with anyone blaming the Barbados or TT government for the Redjet collapse. Redjet is a private company, whose management should have forseen what obstacles they would face. They seemed surprised that their competitors BW and LI lowered their prices on routes that they served... What did they expect?

IMHO what happened is that a father/son duo, who do not have any aviation experience, thought they could start up an airline in the Caribbean. They thought that they could by cheap MD-82 aircraft, not realizing that older aircraft use more fuel, have higher maintenance costs and can not be operate cost effectively on short inter island hops.

They hired a management team of Europeans who did not realize that the islands in the Caribbean are independent countries and that they would need to apply for permits to serve the other countries. That is why they could not start up their new routes as quickly as they were hoping.
I know the conditions to receive an AOC vary from country to country, but isn't it usually a requirement that airlines must provide proof that they have sufficient funds to operate for one year? With Redjet already collapsing after 8 months it seems to me that awarding an AOC to Redjet was a rushed decision under political pressure, rather than a dragging process as they claim.

BW985


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 14923 times:

CAL UNDER STRESS
Fails to hand over US$5m pledged to Children's Life FundOwes NP $29m
By Asha Javeed asha.javeed@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Mar 17, 2012 at 10:51 PM ECT

Story Updated: Mar 18, 2012 at 1:07 AM ECT

National carrier Caribbean Airlines (CAL) has not paid its promised US$5 million (TT$30 million) to the Prime Minister's pet project, the Children's Life Fund.

On November 30, 2011, CAL chairman George Nicholas presented a replica cheque to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar at the official launch of the Fund at the Hilton Trinidad.

Persad-Bissessar donates ten per cent of her salary, while her Cabinet colleagues donate five per cent, to the fund.

Persad-Bissessar had explained that CAL had raised the US$5 million by donating US$5 paid on every passenger flight ticket to the Children's Fund.

However, the Sunday Express understands that up to last week the payment to the fund was still outstanding.

Chairman of the Children's Life Fund, Varun Maharaj told the Sunday Express yesterday that while they haven't received the sum, he understands that CAL was making arrangements to make the payments.

He said he had the commitment of the chairman as well as line Minister Devant Maharaj.

Maharaj said Nicholas was committed to the Life Fund and had even offered to facilitate the travel of certain cases through CAL.

Even as CAL is yet to hand over the US$5 million cheque to the Life Fund, it is also owing fuel provider National Petroleum tens of millions of dollars.

CAL owes NP approximately $29 million for aviation fuel.

The Sunday Express understands that CAL usually enjoys a seven-day credit facility for fuel from NP.

However, CAL has been unable to pay the full amount when invoiced.

Instead, the Sunday Express understands the company issues partial payments to sustain the account.

"It's a standard arrangement with all our suppliers but NP is given first priority as a supplier," was all Alicia Cabrera, CAL's senior marketing manager would say yesterday.

Chairman Nicholas could not be immediately reached for comment yesterday.

He announced that the airline had made a $200 million profit last year.

The sum, the Sunday Express was told, has built up over the last six weeks as no payments have been made to the account despite an attractive fuel subsidy which the airline has enjoyed since it began operations in January 2007.

NP has declined to disclose information because CAL is a customer.

"We pay them a little at a time but you will appreciate that our operations require fuel on a constant basis. It's like an account that keeps going up. We might pay $5 million this week but purchase $10 million. The point is we are supposed to settle it in seven days but it's never done," a source familiar with CAL's operations said.

Transport Minister Maharaj confirmed yesterday that CAL was undergoing financial stress.

Maharaj told the Sunday Express he was aware that CAL had not paid the US$5 million to the Children's Life Fund and that it owed a considerable amount to NP.

He said last week officials from his ministry met with CAL's executives "to go through in detail various aspects of its budget".

Maharaj said the ministry was looking at it in two parts: CAL's domestic operations and the Air Jamaica operations.

"We are critically reviewing all expenditure in an attempt to rationalize expenditure to make the airline as profitable as possible," he told the Sunday Express.

He pointed out that critical aspects were a reduction in staff in Jamaica and the removal of food from Air Jamaica's economy seating.

Further, CAL was even looking at the feasibility of maintaining two brands which he said was costly in terms of marketing.

Given the collapse of REDjet and continued troubles at Liat, Maharaj said, CAL was committed to the serving the region.

"The government agrees that CAL should be run efficiently. So we have to see what efficiencies can be achieved without traumatising employees in any fashion," he said.

Up to May 2010, CAL paid a fixed price for fuel with the government picking up the slack if oil prices fluctuated. Post 2010, the government agreed to change the price of US$1.75 a gallon to US$1.50 a gallon. The subsidy was maintained by the government and was also extended to Air Jamaica after it was acquired in June 2011.

CAL's subsidised fuel cost the government $56.9 million up to August 2011.

Within the last year, CAL has consistently added new flights and introduced new routes to the region having the fuel advantage benefit compared to its regional competitors.

The high fuel prices caused the Barbados-based low fares airline REDjet to halt operations from Friday night.

CAL's mounting debt also comes at a time when the airline has been unable to pay for it's third and fourth turboprop aircraft which it commissioned from France's Aviones de Transport Regional (ATR).

In November, CAL received the first of nine ATRs, which are expected to replace the airline's aging Dash 8s.

CAL's intention with its ATR aircraft are to operate Air Jamaica to Havana, Montego Bay/Kingston shuttle service, Nassau to Grand Cayman and its current Dash-8 operations—the airbridge, Caracas, Barbados and Grenada.

The company was expected to take receipt of one ATR a month until it had acquired all nine and had trained pilots for the transition from the Dash8's to the newer aircraft.

CAL, the Sunday Express understands, had paid for the first ATR from its 2011 profits.

Each ATR cost approximately US$18.9 million and that financial responsibility is now with the Ministry of Finance.

But CAL hasn't been able to meet payments and as a result, was unable to take receipt of the two finished aircraft.

"There is a disconnect with how the company is spending money and how they should be spending money," said the source.

"Other less important expenses have been given priority."

In a condensed financial reports, which spanned 2008-October 2011, submitted to Minister Maharaj on October 5, CAL chief operating officer Robert Corbie had said CAL's 2011-2012 financial outlook depended on the current fuel facility being maintained, that approved financing will be received from the government for the financing of the ATR acquisition and aircraft acquisition approvals for implementation of new routes will be received as they were essential for the company.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/CAL_UNDER__STRESS-143075106.html



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14844 times:

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 12):
http://www.compasscayman.com/caycomp...talian-tourism-targeted-by-Cayman/

I posted this link on the last thread. It seems AZ wants to use KX as their connection to the Cayman Islands. Any news on new a/c for KX??

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14667 times:

Redjet were supposed to resume tomorrow (Monday) provided they got the funds from the Government of Barbados.
Does anyone know what the situation is?
I doubt they got the funds so their guilt ploy failed.
Will they announce closure of all operations soon or will they continue to hang on to hope that the GoB will give them what they want.?

My girlfriend is mean't to fly them at the end of the month to Barbados...at the moment she's unable to access a refund and has no information whether they'll be back in the air by then. I suspect that's money down the toilet.

AA1818



“The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it.” J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan)
User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14644 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 16):

Don't know if this guy writing this letter is accurate but for what it's worth published in Stabroek News:


REDjet’s problems are grounded in its business model

By Stabroek staff | 3 Comments | Letters | Sunday, March 18, 2012


Dear Editor,

REDjet’s suspension of flights is unfortunate and perhaps disheartening given the history of airline failure to which Guyanese have been subject.

The problem, as often has been the case, lies in the government’s vulnerability to investment lures. Its naivety. Its credulity. Of course we would like REDjet to resume and to succeed, but the problems it has thrown on the screen as its reasons for suspension, are predictably grounded in the business model of its principal shareholders.

First, we need to make it clear that, according to “Travel Weekly”, the American industry newspaper, REDjet, owned 25% by Robbie and Ian Burns, up to filing in May 2010, really belonged to Allegiant Air, formerly WestJet and varied investors. Allegiant Air has a history of entering markets and pulling out within a year if the returns do not meet their expectations in spite of the high load factors that “low cost” ensures.

It suffices to read a media source like Wikipedia about Allegiant and the rubric “criticism of the business model.” The examples were given of three markets that Allegiant entered then exited within the year, in one case, despite subsidies or government support.

The Allegiant model is to attract customers with low fare advertising and then make the money as “ancillary” revenue (sale of food, beverage, excess baggage, preferred seating etc). As CEO Maurice Gallagher is quoted as saying, they still get US$110 from you for a trip for which the ticket is sold as US$75.

The Allegiant model starts with the MD 80 series aircraft we saw REDjet introduce in the Caribbean. It is likely that the company is still a major shareholder in REDjet. The suspension statement by REDjet says they are hopeful they would get the “state assistance” that some Caribbean national airlines enjoy. In short the taxpayer would be subsidising the low fares, while REDjet gets an edge on the competition by advertising its fifty cent flights.

There have been comments and even court cases involving low fare carriers in Europe. The low cost model works in most situations and SouthWest in the USA is a good example. But it usually translates into hidden revenue streams as often either the cities or governments or even airports grant some type of subsidy for the service and the costs passengers end up paying average out to a level that makes low fares in reality less “low” than appears at first sight. If the pull out of the market is followed by filing for bankruptcy, then a lot of the reservation money would be kept by the “failed” carrier and the shareholders end up much less hurt than one imagines.

One understands that the government wanted to take care of the travel needs of the Guyanese public and gave REDjet a chance. Perhaps the government decision makers lacked the industry knowledge to be able to see the hook in the lure. In any case, it is really doubtful that REDjet would resurrect.

As for EZjet, it is another model and as a charter company the risks are different. This is not an airline operation but a travel agency/tour operator operation. One Trinidad based tour operator bankrupted Primaris Airlines and failed its clients when costs outstripped advertised fares a few years ago. Universal was an airline that had other problems. To my mind the best solution to the Guyana airlift problem is the re-creation of the Guyana Airways structure with, private sector involvement, modern management and a better marketing plan than that which existed.

Yours faithfully,
Abu Bakr


GUYAIR707


User currently offlinedivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14634 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 15):

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 12):
http://www.compasscayman.com/caycomp...talian-tourism-targeted-by-Cayman/

I posted this link on the last thread. It seems AZ wants to use KX as their connection to the Cayman Islands. Any news on new a/c for KX??

Ah thanks for the link,

What i read from this is actually KX maybe trying to feed Italians from MIA down on KX from the Alitalia flight there.


In reference to new aircraft, next year is an election year here, and rumours on the "marl road" are 737-700s are on the cards!

I dont see tho how the airline can afford them, a mechanic and pilot were telling me that if they do get them, they would need to be certified for RNAV and that would cost the airline something ridiculous (i think he said some figure like 125,000 per aircraft per year!).

However, the sooner the better IMO.... the 300s are beginning to shot their age and have been going tech recently with some issues which causes delays, and its long delays!



My dream, is to fly, over the rainbow, so high!
User currently offlinespeedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14616 times:

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 18):

I've jump seated a lot on those birds and also been around for a few techs. Gonna miss em but all the same a few 73Gs would do wonders what with the increase in fuel efficiency, payload and range....unfortunately also a noticeable increase in payments as well. I know for sure the guys up front would absolutely love to get their hands on some modern equipment.

-2263



Straight'n Up 'N Fly Right Son ;)
User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14602 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 14):

I really hope that there is change in the current political system in POS very soon, the economy and people cannot take much more of the antics of the people in charge.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):

Interesting article, If we are to believe in it then we were correct from the beginning that their business model was unsustainable from the start.
Looking at their facebook page, some people believe that RD showed that a low cost airline can make it in the region lol.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 16):

Well man sorry to here that one, but when RD pulled down 50% of their schedule I made sure to tell everyone that I know thinking of flying them to be very careful. Airlines make schedule adjustments all the time, its normal to revenue manage, however when they pulled down that many flights you know they were in trouble.

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 18):
Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 19):

Why not EJets? They may be better suited for KX, I know of potential baggage problems but with the EJets they can revenue manage much better, and cheaper to operate.



All ah we is one family
User currently onlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14577 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 14):

This is only a manifestation of the political turmoil that has hit CAL ever since this new GORTT entered office. The sad part is, many Trinis ignorant of the facts believe that this was CAL from since its inception. Until Trinidad and Tobago can collectively vote with its head rather than with its emotions, these failures will continue. It also sets a bad precedent when people are critical for no valid reason, of a BOD and top management that had a sound strategic direction for the the airline. When you politicize national interest, politics will always trump good sound business practices.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 16):
Redjet were supposed to resume tomorrow (Monday) provided they got the funds from the Government of Barbados.

I doubt that RD is going to get the funds from the GOB. They always championed their "no-government funding" attribute.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlinedivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14460 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 20):
Why not EJets? They may be better suited for KX, I know of potential baggage problems but with the EJets they can revenue manage much better, and cheaper to operate.

E-Jets IMO are the way to go.

Fuel efficiency, smaller, more reliable.......

There is probably 3-4 months a year where the KX jets go out near 90% capacity. for the rest of the year, I think they company could do with operating smaller aircraft to have more seats sold during the year. It would help out them out with hopefully breaking even more on the flights. I think baggage will just have to be monitored more rigourously and not allow people to travel with 3+ bags! I know they have now started charging for 3rd bags.... so maybe that will help!

However with that possible savings, there will be a huge expense into converting everything over to E-jets.... .and again I dont think there is any money for that!


Interestingly the Airports Authority in Cayman have decided to upgrade the airport in Cayman Brac to allow international travel.
http://www.compasscayman.com/caycomp...national-flights-planned-for-Brac/

From my understanding, no schedule flights happen due to the security not being up to par for TSA to allow commercial flights to come from Cayman Brac direct to the USA.
I dont see many airlines serving this, but maybe one flight a week would be possible for the island. I see this more for KX again to do stops here onwards, eg. GCM-CBC-MIA/TPA, and then return the same way.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14418 times:

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 22):
There is probably 3-4 months a year where the KX jets go out near 90% capacity. for the rest of the year, I think they company could do with operating smaller aircraft to have more seats sold during the year. It would help out them out with hopefully breaking even more on the flights. I think baggage will just have to be monitored more rigourously and not allow people to travel with 3+ bags! I know they have now started charging for 3rd bags.... so maybe that will help!

one problem with this is that KX's core markets all require bag heavy...divers and VFR



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14400 times:

So far I have not heard any press updates about RD so we will have see if they any further developments today. If RD was trying to get money out of the GOB their timing could not have been worst. Not only does the GOB not have the money to spend on RD, but politically such a move would be very unwise give what has been happening recently.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 21):

This really is not a political forum but I think one has to remember that voters all over the world tend to have short memories. The fact is that the current administration did a good job of tapping into the mood of the electorate during the last election. As has been shown in Jamaica and St Lucia and what will most likely be the case in Grenada and even Barbados... if after being the keys to government and you cannot perform you will be voted out. It is democracy at work and for that I think we have to be thankful.

Also one must remember that the PNM handling of the restructuring of BW was a novel approach when it comes to state owned airlines in the Caribbean. What is currently happening with BW now unfortunately is usually the norm.

Regards
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25 A388 : Nice topic on the thread starter BW424!!! Thank you for your kind words on my photography as well!!! I'm doing my best. Just an update on the two new
26 guyanam : As I mentioned before CAL does NOT have too much time to make its Jamaican operations work. Now we see that they are under review. This confirms what
27 BW424 : I understand that this epidemic of short-term political memory exists everywhere. The same is somewhat happening at Thai. I'm not questioning the pos
28 Post contains images kasimir : Great topic guys! Thanks for the heads up ... Was about to ask if you could post some pics of the two new loading bridges, but will try to check it ou
29 caribbean484 : They had a press release stating that they are still looking for the GOB to step in to give them a subsidy, I don't know what kind of subsidy they wa
30 817Dreamliiner : Honestly I fail to understand why RD feel that they are entitled to a subsidy, if they were state owned or homegrown(started by bajans) then maybe I
31 Post contains images A388 : Thanks BW424, it is my pleasure too as you also say... I don't know much more other than that the new loading bridges are being installed so I don't
32 guyanam : Ian Burns just refuses to take responsibility for a failed business model and wants to blame his woes on subsidized airlines. He acquired planes befo
33 Post contains images kasimir : Thanks mate ... I will try to find out about the AB loads when I'm on the flight
34 baje427 : The papers give a skewed view on crime the police statistics indicate crime as a whole is down I do agree unemployment is high but the losses have st
35 andrefranca : Deep inside, I think Ian's real goal was to turn RD into an "Air Jamaica replacement" but he: 1- Failed to have it based in JM 2- Thinking that one d
36 Post contains links CO777DAL : Here yall go from my last trip to T&T POS HD Copa Airlines 737-700 Take-Off First Class Clase Ejecutiva Port of Spain Trinidad Boeing http://youtu
37 caribbean484 : CAL has increased capacity for the Easter Periods BW15/14 will be an Omni 757 BW526/527 will be 6w for 2wks BW500/501 is operating but an Omni 763 3w
38 Post contains links divemaster08 : Cayman Airways to launch services to PTY. From the Department of Tourism (why they get the deciding view on where they fly is annoying!) Regular servi
39 Post contains links caribbean484 : Regional News Sandals proposes Bahamasair change "SANDALS has been in discussions with Bahamasair over the airline adjusting its flight schedule into
40 yellowtail : He forgot the basic rule of making a million in the airline business....start with 100 million.
41 A388 : REDJet would never be able to get permission to fly to the U.S. because Barbados now is a FAA Category 2 country meaning that no locally registered a
42 andrefranca : I'm skeptical, cause for brazilians the Caymans somehow are a "sister" to the bahamas, and needless to say we KNOW both are expensive, so they wouldn
43 guyanam : Just last year Ian burns boasted that stodgy CAL and LIAT would be put in their place by Redjet as they are high cost carriers. The supports they rec
44 GUYAIR707 : Yeah the traffic is increasing and arrivals are on the up. What they don't mention is that the contractor, China Harbour Engineering Company, has bee
45 Post contains images andrefranca : hehehe thanks man, well I love the caribbean and the warmth of its people, The caribbean was my first international destination when I was 6! and I'v
46 guyanam : Others will confirm or correct this, but it appears as if they dont have the $$ to fully purchase all the ATRs so might focus on routes with the best
47 BE77 : A couple of things from my travels yesterday: BW483 MIA>POS>GEO was the first flight (non tag on type) I have been on in ages that had loads of
48 baje427 : Is there any word on RD? It would be funny if they managed to acquire CAL retired Q300's
49 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : RedJet troubles, CAL's future LAST WEEKEND's decision by Low Fare Airline (LFA) REDjet, to suspend all flights until further notice, has to serve as a
50 BE77 : I thought it was odd last week when I was told the CAL liveried ATR was returning to Europe after the trip to YYC to show it to WS, but I guess if BW
51 Avianca : hope they have not to return the other 2.. would be shame to loose the CCS link!
52 BWIA 772 : Question, Can any of you guys give me a break down of BW regional route re configuration specifically relating to the breaking up of the milk run. Wer
53 Post contains links BW424 : "Caribbean Airlines VP of Operations demoted" "Vice president of Operations at Caribbean Airlines (CAL), Thomas Lawrence, has been demoted and chief p
54 baje427 : Sad to say but if CAL continues like this I can see another shutdown
55 Post contains images A388 : It is sad to see Caribbean Airlines going through this as they were one of the few airlines in our region that was well managed until it started to go
56 guyanam : And part of the turn around will quite likely lead to the sharp curtailment, or complete discontinuation of the Jamaica ops. CAL does not have the lu
57 A388 : Well, let's wait and see, I hope everything works out well for everybody. Based on what I've read on the forum so far about the Jamaican aviation, it
58 guyanam : Well put it this way. Others might have the deep pockets to weather a period of being ignored by Jamaicans, but neither BW, nor the GORTT are in this
59 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jet...-a-new-home-in-san-juan-2012-03-14 I was reading this article about a week ago and thinking, is this going to b
60 beeweel15 : Think you are wrong on this. If EK or even VS were to buy JM Jamaicans would have welcomed them and would be more open and willing to work with them
61 A388 : So let's completely forget about the current situation. You're saying if Caribbean Airlines or the GORTT would have deep pockets there wouldn't be th
62 baje427 : Hi guys I am looking for some insight into AC ops into BGI I have the following questions if you guys can help would be appreciated. 1) Does the fligh
63 guyanam : I am saying that CAL does not have time to see if Jcans will begin to accept them or not, and neither does the GORTT. If the Jcan routres are big mon
64 A388 : So you're contradicting yourselves with these two statements. First you say that airlines with deep pockets can resist losing money, in other words t
65 BE77 : AFAIK the crew does RON, as I have seen then in the customs line...might not always be the case, but the flight is prettty long (2700 miles or so) to
66 LimaFoxTango : The flight crew overnights, the cabin crew turns around. I think AC is milking that route. Clearly, they have the lion share of the market. I don't t
67 windian425 : Only flight deck crew overnight in BGI. No catering for Y Class, not sure about F Class Sometimes the A319's are restricted but not very often. They
68 baje427 : Thanks for the response I checked GOL website those fares to BGI are pretty high about 900 USD anyone have info on these loads?
69 SJOtoLIR : Air Europa will be offering the seasonal service on Barcelona - Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic route: UX 059.......BCN 16;30.........SDQ 19:50.....
70 yellowtail : THis flight is for O&D. The day CM starts it...is the day KX thinks about dropping it. BTW, I am hearing rumors from this neck of the woods that
71 BW424 : So it is being rumored that UP will be replacing their B732s with B735s. Anyone with extra info on this?
72 windian425 : Load Factors are below 50% for the most part. During peak season they can reach 75-80% though.
73 baje427 : Wow that's pretty low but I guess at those prices they might still be making money hopefully they can make it work.
74 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : There is a thread running, as I am sure you have seen: Bahamasair To Replace 737-200s With -500s? (by SXDFC Mar 20 2012 in Civil Aviation)#menu27 See
75 westindian425 : Where would they get 717's from? Southwest/Air Tran? Also, the 737-700s (the sports cars of this model) are VERY hard to come by!
76 guyanam : I made myself pefectly clear. BW has financial problems so can NOT sustain losses waiting for Jcans to gradually begin to accept them. If they were a
77 A388 : So your below reply is not true...? Jamaicans will warm up to Caribbean Airlines if Caribbean Airlines/GORTT had enough money to sustain the losses.
78 GUYAIR707 : Right, I was not so sure, I said that as they do seem more efficient than the 735, but more expensive. I don't know about Airtran 717's as I am not s
79 guyanam : Figure out how long it will be before GORTT owned entities, like the fuel company and the Airport Authority, demand payment by CAL. Tell me whether t
80 caribbean484 : I did not want to get into this but something has to be said to stop this nonsense: !) NO STATE company in T&T can demand nor take to court anoth
81 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : A little news from inside LI. V2-LGA left the LI fleet last week. It was re-registered VH-QQP and was painted all white before it left. Not sure where
82 GUYAIR707 : Thanks for that info, I hope it can be sorted out quickly, for CAL's sake. Politics and business really don't mix. Look at Bookers or Demba in Guyana
83 baje427 : I thought LI did their own maintenance without pax how far can the 300 fly? On another note its sad to see whats happening to CAL I just think with t
84 LimaFoxTango : LI does do all maintenance in-house. This is just one of those rare occasions where this aircraft was due and no hangar space available. With full ta
85 A388 : I understand all what you said but again, I'm talking about the most ideal situation in which Caribbean Airlines or the GORTT does have the money to
86 Post contains images time2lyme : [quote=caribbean484,reply=80] Thanks caribbean484 nice and sharp and to the point.
87 guyanam : Then you better hope that the T&T taxpayers give them more time. Are they prepared to accept BWIA II, a bottom less pit of subsidies in a country
88 Post contains images caribbean484 : We were talking about Bahamasair taking on 735 well here is a pic I got from a friend online twitter
89 A388 : Guyanam, you always fail to come with facts to back up your claims and statements. Let's start with showing us some facts about the poor financial st
90 N312RM : KX would most certainly look for AZ to feed traffic through MIA. A second fleet type is just not feasible. FYI, the current fleet of B733's are RNAV
91 N312RM :
92 baje427 : I thought KX was looking into installing winglets to its 737's 737 ng sound good but they could probably get 300 and 500's with low cycles for a good
93 A388 : Member LAXintl posted lease rates for several aircraft types some time ago. I'm sure he can help us find out the most recent lease rates. I guess the
94 N312RM : They did consider installing winglets but abandoned the idea, performed an analysis a couple of years ago and concluded that the payback period was t
95 guyanam : FACT Lalor the Jcan rep to the CAL board stating his concern that Jcans are snubbing them. FACT T&T Minister responsible for transportation stati
96 GUYAIR707 : Maybe that will change with the delivery of the ATR to BW or is the market particular to the jet, as you said the JM's Q did not do too well? GUYAIR7
97 SJOtoLIR : Speaking about KX GCM-PTY 2x weekly with 733, it isn't scheduled on a year-round basis. The last flight will happen on September 03rd. We'd rather spe
98 817Dreamliiner : Why are we still talking about this? I honestly thought we ended this discussion in the last thread. And guyanam I really wish that you would post nu
99 A388 : Again, this is just your opinion which you are entitled to but there is no fact anywhere. As long as start using "if-scenarios" there is no fact but
100 N312RM : This is correct, flights will resume in November/December through August of 2013. I understand it will be the same for DFW. KX typically drops a numb
101 Post contains links caribbean484 : Air Caraïbes inaugurates Santo Domingo-Paris flight "Air Caraïbes airlines unveiled its Air Bus A 330-300 aircraft in a gala at Las Americas Interna
102 A388 : That is bad news for Air Caraïbes but 5 million euros in debts over one year with their small fleet does sound a bit excessive or can it be? Maybe t
103 Post contains links guyanam : Mr Lalor says th ere is a problem. Trinidad aviation minister says there is a problem. Maybe you wish to express your disagreement with what these tw
104 Post contains links caribbean484 : Caribbean Airlines Exploring Availability of Flights from Ogle to Brazil " Minister of Tourism, Industry and Commerce, Manniram Prashad is very optimi
105 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : You know, I really find it interesting that you quoted something I didnt say, but I guess thats another story Now replying to your post: Tell me wher
106 A388 : Okay thanks guyanam. Things we both do agree with is the success of the new entrant FlyJamaica and maybe even EZJet. As you have stated as well, I ha
107 guyanam : It is implied that you must disagree with Mr Maharaj and Mr Lalor. One says that Jcans are snubbing CAL. The other says that CAL is under financial s
108 817Dreamliiner : You know I really fail to see how you can determine that im disagreeing with them. How are my comments implying that I disagreed with them? Is it bec
109 GUYAIR707 : This was a while ago, since then as you probably know since then the President has changed and the power in the Parliament has shifted to the opposit
110 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : EZjet seems to be expanding: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...269.243411279013296&type=1&theater Also according to their facebook page t
111 GUYAIR707 : Sorry they plan on flying GEO-YYZ within the next 2 months, they are just awaiting authorization. GUYAIR707
112 beeweel15 : With the JM brand as it is now "NO" EZjet is getting second aircraft and training has started here at JFK for its arrival. Also heard that the same f
113 GUYAIR707 : Yeah they are using Sun Country to do JFK-POS in April and they are hinting on Facebook they will be starting GEO-
114 GUYAIR707 : Keeps cutting me off when I edit. To finish that, they will be starting GEO-YYZ within the next 2 months. They have a competition on Facebook to desi
115 beeweel15 : Have note heard about their Caribbean ops. Right now Lan has moved their ops from T4 to T8 heard TAM will shortly follow. I hope that AA or Port Auth
116 guyanam : The current stats are seen by Maharaj and Lalor. They both state that the Jcan operations have problems. There is no need for me to pour over stats t
117 817Dreamliiner : You know im starting to wonder if you read my post properly as I said before ill say again, I said that the article supported what you said, but only
118 GUYAIR707 : Suriname Airways says it will start GEO-YYZ before 12/2012. They say it is at the request of the GOG, apparently as a charter first then scheduled car
119 baje427 : They would need different aircraft I dont think the 733 can do GEO-YYZ or am I wrong
120 guyanam : So you are then claiming that you cannot trust Mr Lalor, who is on the baord of CAL, and Mr Maharaj who, as the minsiter responsible for aviation, ov
121 GUYAIR707 : I get the impression that their intention is to get additional a/c as I am sure the 733 won't work, unless they will divert the A343, but that will b
122 Post contains links caribbean484 : REDjet loses its licence "The Trinidad and Tobago Civil Aviation Authority (TTCAA) yesterday revoked the licence of budget carrier REDJet. TTCAA direc
123 817Dreamliiner : Somehow I think your missing my point, I never said that I disagreed with them and I never said I didnt trust them. This is what you always imply tha
124 trintocan : The A340 is likely to be weight-restricted out of GEO so it would still have to stop elsewhere on the way to YYZ. TAB airfares are much lower than th
125 baje427 : Well I guess its official now that RD is over any idea when the aircraft will be returning I know a friend who is scheduled to fly a charter on RD BGI
126 GUYAIR707 : Thanks for clearing that up for me, I was working on conspiracy theories (lol). I guess if GoG subsidizes the flight, which I am sure they won't, the
127 LimaFoxTango : I think RD owns the airframes, so the next place they go to is probably the desert unless someone else buy's them. Perhaps Insel Air could pick them
128 beeweel15 : I would but i question whether it is good to invest back home to make certain things bigger and better.
129 Post contains links BWIA 772 : RD is a private entity.. the GOB has no obligation to a thing for Redjet. One of the backers of RD has said that it is impossible for the airline to
130 Post contains links beeweel15 : Well there has been talk of the UK Airport Departure Taxes well it looks like POS will go up by 100%. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...ke_in_dep
131 Post contains links and images A388 : Dutch Antilles Express has finally painted their new ATR42 in the airline's new livery. See my photo in below link: View Large View MediumPhoto © Rog
132 Post contains links bloodyrascal : Bahamasair has obtained its first 735 jet and is schedule to operate its first flight tomorrow on the morning NAS-FLL flight. Here is a video on their
133 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Great photo A388! Cant wait to see more of your amazing shots Great to see them getting newer aircraft, will they be replacing the dash's anytime soo
134 Post contains links BW424 : Nice pic as usual. Echoing what Dreamliner said, it's very nice to see them getting new aircraft. Any update on the turboprop replacement? I remember
135 A388 : Thanks guys, hopefully in the coming weeks more photos will be added. A388
136 2travel2know2 : Best for that charter organisers is to contact Air Panama and check the availability of their F70. I'm pretty sure everybody here remembers that Air
137 baje427 : Its April are there atleast any pics of the 767 in CAL colours would assume the will need to do some proving flights shortly.
138 817Dreamliiner : Hopefully soon, I just hope they have it in full livery and not a boring hybrid livery. Speaking of hybrid liveries, anyone know if 9Y-SXM and 9Y-MBJ
139 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : In today's Stabroek News: Barbados working on REDjet plan Government is working on a plan to get low-cost carrier REDjet back in the skies. Minister o
140 caribbean484 : I know and agree with you 100% but the problem is this: Why all this nonsense, IMO RD will have a very hard time returning, as the shareholder mentio
141 time2lyme : Does anyone know how the forward bookings for LGW are doing?
142 guyanam : The article is credible because it quotes some one, the Minister responsible for transportation, and we havent seen any denials or negative responses
143 baje427 : RD got several subsidies from the GOB several tax breaks up to fifteen years of tax exemptions in some cases.
144 caribbean484 : We know all this, but the question begs what else do they want? Fuel subsidy? more tax breaks? an investment from the BGI government to take shares i
145 817Dreamliiner : Ok, would they still have to get this done elsewhere? I remember reading somewhere, probably here if I remember correctly, that they cant apply decal
146 caribbean484 : Word now is that delivery is pushed back until 1st week of May.
147 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : If you check today's Kaieteur News page 2 on their online epaper you will see the preliminary design (plan view) for the new terminal at GEO. http://
148 time2lyme : Someone asked a while ago about there being two different types of engines. Is this true?
149 A388 : LAN only has GE-powered 767's so I assume this two different engine types story isn't true. A388
150 caribbean484 : Well LAN does have 2 767 with PW engines from the ILFC, I am not sure if they will be converted to GE at the end of their engine life. I doubt CAL wi
151 baje427 : Is there any update about CAL ATR's? lets hope they would not take aircraft with different engine types but stranger things have happened
152 Post contains links and images point2point : Although just a handful of flights at this time, it looks like it's official that F9 will be "invading" PUJ starting this June. As most probably know,
153 A388 : Okay thanks Caribbean484, I wasn't aware of those two 767's. Even so, conversion to another engine type to my knowledge isn't possible as this is one
154 Post contains links and images A388 : Here's another photo of mine that has been accepted to the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography A
155 817Dreamliiner : Another great shot! I like that you caught the 767 on approach in the background as well. You know I actually wish we had more photographers on here
156 A388 : Thanks 817Dreamliiner. I can see what you mean but SJU also has a lot of photos and probably the most spotters too so you're overlooking the largest
157 GUYAIR707 : Lovely shot. I have been looking at your pics over the years, nice to see how the quality has improved. I remember when I started taking shots I had
158 817Dreamliiner : Yes your right, I completely forgot about SJU, especially since ive been there not too long ago, I agree that they do probably have the largest amoun
159 Post contains links and images A388 : Hey GUYAIR707, I see you have been following my photos for a long time as I had to think a little bit harder which TU154 photo you meant. It can only
160 GUYAIR707 : Yep that is it. As you know the only jet a/c Guyana Airways ever owned was a TU-154M, so I always kind of check those pics out. I have seen this pic
161 A388 : Great thanks GUYAIR707, I will. And yes, SXM never ceases to amaze!!! Spotters living there are among on of the luckiest around the world. Cheers, A3
162 Post contains links caribbean484 : Caribbean Airlines faces substantial challenges in achieving success on long-haul flights to London "It is not clear how extensively Caribbean has stu
163 guyanam : Will be interested in hearing comments on this article. Points to note; 1. Claims that KIN LGW seems to be on hold/abandoned, even though the departu
164 JM02 : BA appear to be having a sale on Club World tickets to KIN because I was able to get a return in Jun for around US$900 less than you would normally pa
165 A388 : Has it been confirmed that KIN-LGW is on hold or is being abandoned? If so, do you have any reliable sources on this? In any case, it can go both way
166 817Dreamliiner : Well so far I havent heard anything regarding KIN-LGW, so not really sure if its on hold or being abandoned, I agree with you that we have to wait an
167 caribbean484 : According to CAL, and we know plans change in a wind, they plan to start KIN in late fall in time for Christmas, we have 8 more months to see how tha
168 Post contains links caribbean484 : News abound is that George Nicolas has resigned from Caribbean Airlines. Three regional airlines banned by EU in new blacklist updat "Conviasa, an air
169 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL Chairman resigns....again PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad, April 4, CMC – Chairman of the state-owned national airlines, Caribbean Airlines (CAL), Georg
170 westindian425 : I wonder why they chose the Navajo. For a resort chain to select an old piston aircraft to transport their valued guests, that's a strange move. Perh
171 GUYAIR707 : Seems very juvenile do these guys realize they are running a multimillion dollar entity that is owned by taxpayers and provides a valuable service to
172 BW424 : No, they don't.
173 817Dreamliiner : Interesting, dont think ive ever heard of Rollins Air or blue wing. Conviasa should probably get their act together and address the safety issues. Di
174 aa1818 : Excellent news! Let's hope he's really gone. We were teased last year when he pulled this stunt. CAL desperately needs a few aviation experts. If thi
175 sunking737 : Anyone know who Sun Country is flying sub service for between JFK-POS-JFK?? Is this short term or for the summer??
176 GUYAIR707 : It's EZjet charter. GUYAIR707
177 817Dreamliiner : GUYAIR707 answered before me, I thought it might have been a Caribbean Airlines Sub, didnt know ezjet did that route[Edited 2012-04-05 05:27:28]
178 sunking737 : I thought EZjet was using a 767 from Dynamic Airlines ???
179 GUYAIR707 : They're doing it for a few weeks in April. The 767 is on the JFK-GEO route. It's on their Facebook page. GUYAIR707
180 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...269.243411279013296&type=3&theater Here is the ad. GUYAIR707
181 817Dreamliiner : Interesting, thanks for posting it
182 GUYAIR707 : Anytime, dissemination of information is what keeps us informed. GUYAIR707
183 guyanam : I am asking the question about KIN LGW. LGW POS is loaded in. LGW BGI POS is also even though the BGI sector mightnt be bookable. Article states KIN
184 A388 : Okay, I began to understand the complete picture when Caribbean484 mentioned Caribbean Airlines wanting to start KIN-LGW in December. Thanks. This is
185 guyanam : Well lets hope that BGI works to promote CAL hard in the UK marketplace. After all they always gripe about lack of airlift and one wouldt hink that t
186 A388 : Are you refering to London flights going via BGI? I would have thought of Mo, We, Fri, Su. A388
187 baje427 : Don't see why BGI should support CAL when we have BA and VS already BW abandoned BGI international ops because they were unprofitable in conditions w
188 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Well we have seen this before but hopefully this is for good. Kudos to the BW management and staff who have kept the airline operationally sound duri
189 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : New chairman for CAL PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad – Former Central Bank director Rabindra Moonan has been appointed chairman of the state-owned Caribbean
190 Post contains links caribbean484 : Well guys he is gone for good from CAL, this nonsense had to stop at some point an I am glad. He has single handily brought CAL into this position by
191 BW424 : As much as I don't like Nicholas, this is very insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The remainder of that diabolical BoD remains; the same Bo
192 Post contains images BE77 : I can think of a couple million reasons for them choosing a Navajo over a King Air. The sad part is, a PC12 or Caravan would be a better 'middle grou
193 westindian425 : LOL!!! Obviously! Where exactly are these hotels located? Which islands? As for the new BW CEO appointment... a banker?! Really? How did they come to
194 aa1818 : Who said anything about a CEO? Hopefully this Chairman will embrace his role more appropriately than Nicholas did. AA1818
195 Post contains links and images A388 : Hey guys, One of my latest photos to the database has reached the frontpage again. See the photo here: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegiete
196 baje427 : Nice pic too bad we don't have spotters in BGI like you
197 GUYAIR707 : Well let us hope this Chairman is successful. Great pic, congratulations getting into the top 5. GUYAIR707
198 BW424 : One thing that he did say.....he plans on being a "backroom chairman". But honestly, I see little to no improvement in CAL's holistic health because
199 westindian425 : Who is on the board of BW? What are their qualifications?
200 baje427 : Does anyone know if CAL will refit the 767 to have a CAL interior or will they keep the LAN interiors from what I have seen from the J trip reports on
201 baje427 : Hey A388 are do you think Insel or DAE will ever attempt an English speaking route I think to Fokker 50 can make CUR-POS as the Dash 8 can.
202 BW424 : The interiors from LAN will be kept since they are extremely modern and its a relatively short dry-lease (5yrs). The J cabin will have flat-bed seats
203 LimaFoxTango : Is there such a thing as a "CAL interior"? I think on one of the past threats it was noted that CAL's aircraft had many different interior colours an
204 baje427 : CAL does not need PTV on its 738 why invest in that product when they have a virtual monopoly on most of their routes.
205 flybyguy : I'm not sure why this is even a contentious issue regarding IFE or long-haul product on CAL. Just about all the Caribbean based airlines have some of
206 LimaFoxTango : It's that kind of mentality why airlines like REDjet or any foreign carrier for that matter, can come into the Caribbean and grab passengers from the
207 817Dreamliiner : Even if they have a Monopoly on most of their routes, thats really no excuse to not at least maintain the interiors that they have on their aircrafts
208 Post contains images A388 : Thanks guys, it is always nice to be on the frontpage I don't know baje427. My feeling says that the POS route is too crowded now but LIAT still does
209 Post contains links and images A388 : Also, one of my other DAE ATR42 photos has been accepted to the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photogra
210 turk223 : What CAL interior? Some of the aircraft have a "standard" interior, but mostly it is just a mish-mash of the former operators' interiors... I've alwa
211 817Dreamliiner : Great pic A388, I assume the "Curacao" near the tail is a tourism marketing logo like the one for Aruba?
212 guyanam : Note comments made by Bajans here concerning LGW BGI. No room for CAL. CAL does NOT know how to promote to the leisure market (it failed on the JFK AN
213 baje427 : Hey A388 how is Insel Air interior and service?
214 westindian425 : You must not know how AA rolls when it comes to customer service in the region. I agree with this! We agree on something!! We should celebrate! lol
215 Post contains images BE77 : Here's my 2 cents on them Flown with them maybe 4 or 5 times. Service is good to excellent...treated me properly when we were delayed out of CLT and
216 yellowtail : Sounds like the beginning of a joke...
217 A388 : Yes, but the Curacao logo comes from Curacao while the Aruba logo was an initiative from Aruba. So the idea might seem similar but they are not relat
218 baje427 : You find AA's service to be abysmal? I guess its how you look at it I have missed connections on AA through MIA and I was accommodated at a hotel and
219 A388 : I have no idea on that, unfortunately. A388
220 baje427 : Does anyone know how to access the DOT traffic stats I know on this thread we use to have the stats posted to Caribbean destinations is someone willin
221 BWIA 772 : Last time I checked immigration to the UK by bajans has not stopped or fallen off dramatically over the last 15 years. So this hypothesis of yours re
222 andrefranca : I'm ONLY 172 cm, and I felt not really well inside Insel's EMB 110, though the service for me was much better and professional than DAE, the MD's had
223 guyanam : It would be funny if they were not responsible for a major Caribbean corporation. Why not compare contemporary migration of Bajans to the UK with tha
224 time2lyme : I'm not so sure about this. I come across a lot of caribbeans in the UK, from St Lucia, St Vincent, Grenada and mostly Trinidad, and they are all fie
225 Post contains links A388 : I found this nice photo edit of a Caribbean Airlines 767-300: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00014947 It gives you a
226 817Dreamliiner : Interesting, not bad but I prefer to see the real thing first before making a solid judgement, thanks for sharing the pic A388. Hopefully we'll be se
227 Post contains images A388 : Two of my photos taken of the open day in Curacao have been accepted: Hope you enjoy them!!! Cheers, A388
228 817Dreamliiner : Great Photos again A388, lol interesting that a KC-135 is parked up at the gate! Also regarding the coastguard Dash 8, I remember seeing one flying a
229 N312RM : Rollins Air is a small regional airline serving mostly domestic routes in Honduras. They used to fly into GCM several years ago but were forced to ce
230 A388 : Conviasa has flown to MAD. You can search the database for photos. A388
231 GUYAIR707 : On board BW421 JFK-GND. Checkin was very smooth, met a very friendly agent. GUYAIR707
232 guyanam : Note you didnt mention British people with Bajan parents. I suspect they can' t be relied upon to be necessarily loyal to a TRINIDADIAN product. I am
233 guyanam : What are the passengers loads into GND?
234 GUYAIR707 : 9Y-ANU is filled to capacity first and coach. GUYAIR707
235 trintocan : I'm pretty certain that Blue Wing had been listed previously on the blacklist. It has had several accidents over the years which have contributed to
236 Post contains images A388 : Thanks trintocan. The airport overview photo is now on the frontpage!!! A388
237 guyanam : Good. I assume that virtually all got off in GND.
238 LimaFoxTango : Not a bad edit indeed, but if this is anything near to what the real thing will look like, I think it looks ghastly. I'm surprised a photo of the rea
239 baje427 : Will you be doing a TR we dont have enough Caribbean reports on the site I think BW will definitely have a challenge in LGW-BGI for the following rea
240 inbound : Word on the inside is the flights to LGW are already heavily booked from "Summer" all the way to Christmas. They picked this period to start ops as it
241 aa1818 : I was hoping to see a 9Y-LGW and perhaps a 9Y-JFK. Or maybe something not in keeping with the current trend like 9Y-BIG or 9Y-TRI/ TNT/ JAM/ BIM. Som
242 817Dreamliiner : Thanks for the update Inbound, appropriate regs I would say. CFM is a joint venture between SNECMA and GE Aviation, pretty much 50-50 from what I rem
243 Post contains images BWIA 772 : To be honest keeping some sequential codes such 9Y-CAL and 9Y-CAN or even 9Y-TKA would have been ok. If anything I think the jets should be named for
244 Post contains images time2lyme : You mean like 9Y-PAN, or 9Y-HUM. Can you have 4 letters? If so, then how about 9Y-ROTI
245 aa1818 : Exactly! I really like that! Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Yeah- besides the registration, I hope they also give them creative names! AA1818
246 A388 : There we have our answer. I was wondering the same but apparently the aircraft is still not painted yet. I wish them success as well. Having two 767'
247 Post contains images time2lyme : ...and for aircraft stationed in jamaica 9Y-POT
248 817Dreamliiner : lol, I can see the funny side of that!
249 Post contains images A388 : I think I haven't posted these photos but here they are: Better late than never... A388
250 Post contains links LIA310 : This articles features a much better edit of a BW B763. SVZM Spotters
251 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Great pics again A388! Well the 787 is coming to MAN on the 23rd, im sure to be there when it arrives might take some pics as well wish I had a bette
252 Post contains images A388 : Thanks for posting that LIA310. According to that article Caribbean Airlines will receive the first 76W on April 10th but if memory serves me well th
253 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Well what the camera im using is from my blackberry so thats what I meant, im looking at different spotting sites, I think the one your thinking abou
254 aa1818 : See Inbound's earlier post re: Delivery Date. AA1818
255 Post contains images yellowtail : For any of you all who are interested here is Tropic Air's route map....182 flights a day. Note the "future routes"
256 A388 : Silly me, I knew I read about a delay somewhere, there it is. A388
257 andrefranca : @yellowtail , man do you know when tropic air will start CUN service? which acft they'll use on these routes? their caravans?
258 bigbird : With the demise of both of Jet One Express aircraft who is currently operating the Holsum Bread contract to the islands including SXM?
259 yellowtail : Yes, I have sent you a message.....
260 Post contains links and images yellowtail : You guys want to support WN expansion into the Caribbean....do your part http://www.freehobbyairport.com/ Houston, we have a solution! Love it!
261 GUYAIR707 : 90% got off in GND, the Immigration was very polite and the green line at customs was a breeze although we had lots of luggage. Difficult this trip b
262 Post contains links inbound : I retract my statement about the aircraft not being painted.... On a different note, I'm not sure if you saw this on another thread in the forum, but
263 Post contains links BW424 : Please get a picture. New forum up Festivity Always- Caribbean Aviation Thread 97 (by BW424 Apr 12 2012 in Civil Aviation) Good to hear. I heard the
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