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Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)  
User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2564 times:


Hi everybody,

I just discovered accidentally this piece of information on the EADS website: Exactly today the very first A318´s final assembly started at Hamburg. I thought one or two of you might be interested to hear that.

Daniel Smile

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User currently offlineVULINDLELA744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Cool!!!!! Can't wait to see the final product. It will be a great a/c for the long thin trans can routes.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Cool! Although, I thought I'd read somewhere that the A318 project was scrapped....I Think it was on the plane spec database on..well.. HERE!!

Chris



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Great news, cant wait to see it.

User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

"L'il Stubby"'s going to come out somewhat late to market though, even though essentially it's just a 319 "minus five (fuselage) frames". Let's see, certification maybe early 2003? (by which time the CRJ900 supposed to be in service, as well as maybe the ERJ170 and Dornier728JET)

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

I can't wait to see that little fat baby!

User currently offline456 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Are there already some pictures available on the net?

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2354 times:

Nice to hear that A318 entered the final assembly line.
And here comes a picture:


Regards,
NoUFO



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2348 times:

All pictures (incl. the first provided before) by Airbus.com






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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2330 times:

Mark_D: Let's see, certification maybe early 2003?

Wouldn´t they get there faster for a mere derivative?


User currently offlineJohn Walton From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Entry into service end 2002, so certification will be way before early 2003.

Airbus.com: "136 firm orders have already been placed for the A318. The first flight is scheduled for January 2002, with entry into service at the end of 2002. "

Plus, there already is a small A320 derivative, the A319. Arn't their regualtions on how many derivatives are allowed on one particular airframe without new certification?

Regards

JW


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Arn't their regualtions on how many derivatives are allowed on one particular airframe without new certification?

Mere regulations are never an issue when it comes to the JAA doing things for Airbus.


User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Which airline will get the first one?

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

B747-437B: Mere regulations are never an issue when it comes to the JAA doing things for Airbus.

Yawn...


User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Klaus. I really don't know, I'm just sorta surprised the CRJ900's gonna take so long to certify --3Q 2002, even though its first flight was this past February. Eighteen months, even though it's really very little more than a stretched 700, with some landing-gear and APU (and of course engine) upgrades.

So I'm just working from there, and not understanding how come it's gonna take that long. (on the other hand, both Embraer and Fairchild Dornier were announcing just really-speedy certifications, like several months or something, even though both of those are brand-new airframes. So I put it just down to marketing-team optimistic spin, since I don't know what's going on there, either, to make those procedures so short).


B747-437B, y'know it's not just Airbus, Boeing got mighty speedy certification for its 777s for instance, when they were announced (especially the derivatives).


User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

NoUFO, thanks for the pics! (even just those second and third ones, looks sorta Stubby already!  Smile)

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Mark_D: I really don't know, I'm just sorta surprised the CRJ900's gonna take so long to certify

Who knows... Might be interesting to have insight into the details of certification.
Maybe in that case they were having trouble meeting some specifics...

I just thought a derivative would get through faster especially if it only differs in a few aspects. I would expect they´d have to do most flight tests, though. Details, anyone?  Smile


User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

Klaus Well from some quarters anyway --B747-437B might be able to shed light on this--, apparently there are some politics involved at times? I don't know.

Couple weeks back though I did notice Bombardier's giviing a few details in their latest "Regional Update Magazine" pdf for June-july, something like 65 percent of the flight envelope been tested, and comments from the pilots about it flying 'just like a 700'. they got a few other details mentioned about hours logged, and what the modifications are as well, relative to the 70-seater.

I'll try to have a look at some of the procedural details involved, from FAA and JAA. Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.



User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Interesting stuff. Keep going...  Wink/being sarcastic

Mark_D: Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.

Hmmm. I think any manufacturer who thought they were being shorthanded would raise a big stink over this.
For the moment, my theory still is that somebody screwed up on either side. It´s usually the safest bet. Big grin


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