Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1532 times:
I just discovered accidentally this piece of information on the EADS website: Exactly today the very first A318´s final assembly started at Hamburg. I thought one or two of you might be interested to hear that.
Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1380 times:
"L'il Stubby"'s going to come out somewhat late to market though, even though essentially it's just a 319 "minus five (fuselage) frames". Let's see, certification maybe early 2003? (by which time the CRJ900 supposed to be in service, as well as maybe the ERJ170 and Dornier728JET)
Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
Klaus. I really don't know, I'm just sorta surprised the CRJ900's gonna take so long to certify --3Q 2002, even though its first flight was this past February. Eighteen months, even though it's really very little more than a stretched 700, with some landing-gear and APU (and of course engine) upgrades.
So I'm just working from there, and not understanding how come it's gonna take that long. (on the other hand, both Embraer and Fairchild Dornier were announcing just really-speedy certifications, like several months or something, even though both of those are brand-new airframes. So I put it just down to marketing-team optimistic spin, since I don't know what's going on there, either, to make those procedures so short).
B747-437B, y'know it's not just Airbus, Boeing got mighty speedy certification for its 777s for instance, when they were announced (especially the derivatives).
Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
Klaus Well from some quarters anyway --B747-437B might be able to shed light on this--, apparently there are some politics involved at times? I don't know.
Couple weeks back though I did notice Bombardier's giviing a few details in their latest "Regional Update Magazine" pdf for June-july, something like 65 percent of the flight envelope been tested, and comments from the pilots about it flying 'just like a 700'. they got a few other details mentioned about hours logged, and what the modifications are as well, relative to the 70-seater.
I'll try to have a look at some of the procedural details involved, from FAA and JAA. Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20845 posts, RR: 55 Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1183 times:
Interesting stuff. Keep going...
Mark_D: Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.
Hmmm. I think any manufacturer who thought they were being shorthanded would raise a big stink over this.
For the moment, my theory still is that somebody screwed up on either side. It´s usually the safest bet.