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Japan Airlines 777 At PHX?!  
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6944 posts, RR: 18
Posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11699 times:

This isn't the weirdest thing I've seen come through PHX recently, (see previous DL 744 thread)

But I was sitting outside by ASU and I saw a JL old livery T7 take off to the East and do an immediate U-turn....what's going on?

edit: found this: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAL8807

[Edited 2012-03-22 13:46:40]


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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11679 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAL8807

Flight # indicates it's a charter flight. On behalf of whom is beyond me. Maybe some sports team?



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11667 times:

Quoting something (Reply 1):
Maybe some sports team?

!!!!!!

I think one of the baseball teams flying to Japan for opening weekend, possibly!
I forgot who! I'll ask one of my Japanese friends later



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User currently offlineaztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11622 times:

Dang, I miss that one....

Was there any Japanese Baseball teams playing the pros during spring training?


User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11622 times:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-s...-to-japan-to-start-3-week-odyssey/

This?



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11570 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
I think one of the baseball teams flying to Japan for opening weekend, possibly!

Seattle and Oakland are starting their MLB seasons in Japan this year.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11539 times:

If you look at Seattle's schedule, they play in Japan starting on the 24th of March with the season openers on the 28th and 29th of March. So, this has got to be one of the team's charters, either Oakland's or Seattle's or they all took one airplane together to keep costs down.

http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/sche...id=sea#y=2012&m=3&calendar=DEFAULT



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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11525 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
So, this has got to be one of the team's charters

From the article I linked

Quote:
The Mariners, the first team to arrive at spring training Feb. 11 — a week before everyone else, nearly two weeks before some teams — will join the Oakland Athletics today as the first teams to depart Arizona.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11494 times:

wow, thanks for the info. I hope SOMEONE was at PHX today spotting. It took off to the east about 40 minutes ago and did an immediate U-turn. Pretty spectacular to watch.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11494 times:

Quoting something (Reply 7):

So, it may be a dual charter, both teams on that JL 777.



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User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11417 times:

I was at the airport when it ferried in from LAX this morning. Its on it's way back to NRT now. I couldn't be there for the departure however. It was JA736J B777-300ER.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6860284132_9151d83af5_b.jpg
JAL B777-300ER JA736J by KoryC757, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7247/6860284074_d28fdcef97_b.jpg
JAL B777-300ER JA736J by KoryC757, on Flickr

[Edited 2012-03-22 14:24:35]


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User currently offlineERJ From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 245 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11412 times:

JAL usually brings in a couple charters for Japanese baseball teams during spring training to play the MLB teams. It is a big event on the T4 Parking Garage roof every year with spotters and fans alike. I was there a few years ago when they brought in 2 744's simultaneously.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11394 times:

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 10):

Thank you so much! Those photos are amazing. (You always seem to catch lucky shots, see again the DL744)



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8092 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11334 times:
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on MLB.com there is an article about the Oakland A's going to Japan, since the A's spring train in Arizona they could be using the 777 to Japan.

User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11335 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12):
Thank you so much! Those photos are amazing. (You always seem to catch lucky shots, see again the DL744)

Thanks, I have a few connections for finding out about these special flights   Also of interest an Atlas Air B747-400 departed at 12PM MST today bound for NRT as well.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11335 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):

And so do the Mariners. They are both in the Cactus League and the Mariners are owned by a Japanese guy. I am betting that both teams are on this one 773.



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User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1644 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11314 times:
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Mariners are taking off right now on the JAL 777. Go M's!

User currently offlineSiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11260 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G...2/history/20120322/1900Z/KPHX/RJAA

Atlas Air had a 744 ferry in from IAH last night, saw it as I was driving into work at about 9:30pm. Departed to NRT shortly before the JAL this afternoon. No doubt these two are operating for the A's and Mariners.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11221 times:

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 14):
Also of interest an Atlas Air B747-400 departed at 12PM MST today bound for NRT as well.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G...2/history/20120322/1900Z/KPHX/RJAA
I see that!

Perhaps this is a sign that some Japanese carriers will start service to PHX   



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User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11030 times:

Dream on , IMHO US would start service ( highly unlikely ) before any japanese carrier would start

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10888 times:

Quoting SiouxATC (Reply 17):
No doubt these two are operating for the A's and Mariners.

Nope. The Mariner's Facebook page shows the JAL 773...

http://mlb.socialhub.awarenessnetwor...tnerId=aw-8730623369796520835-1076



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User currently offlineSiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10790 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Nope. The Mariner's Facebook page shows the JAL 773...

Meaning these two charters are operating on behalf of the teams. A's using GTI and Mariners using JAL.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10493 times:

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 19):

Actually US has expressed its intent to serve PHX-NRT when it takes delivery of the A350. I think it's a stupid idea and that they would be better off serving FRA. ANA could probably pull the route off with a 787, but I'm not sure why they'd bother.



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User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10306 times:

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 22):

I agree about FRA. I feel stronger about any US Phx Europe connection than a Phx anywhere Asia connection. The feed might be there for US but I stand firm that any asain carrier starting service is a pipe dream.... Lax is close and too convienent

Nice to see a triple 7 in phx however, remind me of the days of BA sending one here ( prior to the 747 swap)


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10057 times:

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 23):
I agree about FRA. I feel stronger about any US Phx Europe connection than a Phx anywhere Asia connection. The feed might be there for US but I stand firm that any asain carrier starting service is a pipe dream.... Lax is close and too convienent

I agree about Asia -- I was just saying what US "plans" to do, just like they planned on getting A340s and planned to start flights to PEK from PHL. I think it's completely idiotic that they haven't added a single long haul route from PHX since the merger. I'm not trying to say PHX could be any kind of major int'l hub (as you say, proximity to LAX and even LAS doesn't help), but I think it could eventually support a half-dozen long haul routes, in particular FRA. I guess they can't figure out their contracts to make that happen though. Honestly, I think PHX is more likely to see LH return than an Asian carrier start service despite the 787 coming on-line. Emirates expressed interest a few years ago, but that would be stupid and I don't think they'll ever bother with it. I'm not even sure if KL/AF could make PHX work. It really is a strange city in that it has a population of over 5 million and one of the busiest airports in the world, yet can't support much int'l service...which is why people here get excited to see a 77W or really anything that isn't American, Canadian, Mexican, or British.



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25 Post contains images AeroSafari : The heavies in PHX are always such a treat. Lovely shots. Its a shame JL didn't take delivery of the 787 already then have the team charter on that Ru
26 Post contains links AirframeAS : Here is another picture inside of that JL 773 charter flight, supplied by the Seattle Mariners. http://mlb.socialhub.awarenessnetwor...tnerId=aw-69439
27 PHX787 : I've heard that once more of the A330s are delivered to US that they'll start the route. I know from somewhere that they actually do have the slot, i
28 atcsundevil : One could hope.. It seems almost laughable that they train their pilots here but don't actually fly them here. Yeah they ran FRA-PHX for a few years
29 Post contains images warden145 : Based on pics in the database, it looks like they ran A340's...I'm seeing some -200's, but mostly -300's. Again, based on the pics, it looks like the
30 kgrb : As others have mentioned, LH flew here between 2001 and 2004. If you're ever at B23, look closely... There are still 'A340' markings on the ground. Th
31 ha763 : US is not holding a slot at NRT. At NRT, you need to use it or it goes back to the airport. Now, US could be holding an old route authority, but that
32 93Sierra : What about ether another UK flight or South American?
33 aztrainer : Thanks for the pictures. I thought that they pulled out due to low yield. I agree about Asia as it seems most of that traffic will go to SFO or LAX.
34 Post contains links PHX787 : Just saw yet another one take off from PHX about 5 minutes ago http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAL8007[Edited 2012-03-30 12:20:41]
35 AirframeAS : The Mariners are back from Japan, this could be JL's repositioning flight back to Tokyo.
36 treebeard787 : It flew in as JL8808 from NRT this morning, it landed at 10AM. It was B777-200ER JA705J.
37 PHX787 : Did you get any photos again, Treebeard?
38 RWA380 : What if NH did a tag from their already announced SJC service to PHX? I miss the HP 747's they used to HNL & NGO, I still have a full paged ad fr
39 93Sierra : The killer of the HP 747s was the fact that they were running those beasts ( they were in piss poor condition and went Mx delayed way too often ) on P
40 Post contains images treebeard787 : I remember reading about one of their PHX-HNL-NGO flights going out with only two passengers on board, Two on a B747! It's no wonder it failed. HP's
41 PHX787 : IMO HP should've used a smaller aircraft (but I don't think the 330 was around at that time?) for this flight, as well as possibly having some sort o
42 RWA380 : The flights between LAS & PHX were just positioning for the Hawaii flights, they ran at less than optimal times, late or early so I think the wea
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