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Norwegian DY B787 Interior ( First Illustrations )  
User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 20569 times:

Norwegian DY B787 interior ( First illustrations )

In this Norwegian article you can see some the first images of what the interior of the B787 interior for Norwegian DY will look like:

http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/03/23/t...norwegian/fly/dreamliner/20784500/

( You can click on most of the pictures and get a bigger one. There are 5 pictures in the article )


Norwegian DY B787's will have 291 seats. 32 to of them at the front will be in a different section with bigger seats and legroom.


The first aircraft has a planned delivery in early 2013 and another one shortly after. The next ones will arrive in 2014 and 2015. The company has ordered a total of 6 B787's , 3 of wich are fuly owned and 3 that is leased.

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User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 20559 times:

Looks rather dull. And with no business class I guess they go after the tourists

User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 20498 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Looks rather dull. And with no business class I guess they go after the tourists

Businessclass ? :

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
. 32 to of them at the front will be in a different section with bigger seats and legroom.


User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 20407 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 2):


Businessclass ? :



Nope 2-3-2 with recliners in a 787 is more like premium economy


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1932 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 20391 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 3):
Nope 2-3-2 with recliners in a 787 is more like premium economy

   Better seats doesn't necessarily constitute Business Class. Sounds like level of service will remain unchanged, so I'd say this is definitely a Y+.



Flying refined.
User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19801 times:

I think the interior looks a bit pale, almost a bit sterile. Buy maybe the moodlighting and entertainment system will help ? I'm not sure the black leather interior of their B737 800 would have looked good for their upcomming B787's as it does for their B737 800*s

Either way, exciting times ahead for Norwegian aviation.


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2773 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19685 times:
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Will it have PTVs? Will the on board product be any different than their current one?

User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19634 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 5):

I think the look of the LEDS will accent the gray/white seatbacks very nicely during flight. That being said, the black covers are definitely more appealing stand-alone.



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User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19539 times:

Y looks boring and uncomfortable with its 3-3-3. I will opt for the 2-3-2 seats, which are still boring, but at least have only one horrific middle seat (actually in Y+/J it is probably OK)

User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19233 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 6):

Will it have PTVs? Will the on board product be any different than their current one?

Well, looking at the pic of the section between the two cabins, one can see that on the far side, the seat (which will be in front of another seat), has no ptv. However, I think it is likely it has just been omitted as there hasn't been any announcement. I really hope they do get some good IFE.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 18992 times:

I can't imagine that there won't be IFE onboard. It would be stupid of DY to omit such a system, especially on their longhaul product.

User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17159 times:

291 seats, is that a record? ANA and JAL have under 200 seats   As cramped as the 332s that some fly from Sweden to asia..

User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16957 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 11):
291 seats, is that a record? ANA and JAL have under 200 seats

You cannot compare full service carriers offering a topclass product like JL and NH to a new DY longhaul product. DY is a LCC, and is after a different public.

291 a new record? Hmm,... for the 787-8 probably it is the most dense seating for the moment. I wonder which cabins ArkeFly from the Netherlands will get now after seeing the DY layout.

The greyish colours are the same boring setting what we see on the new AY cabin... I really miss some colour.



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User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16924 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 11):
As cramped as the 332s that some fly from Sweden to asia..

The 787 8 is the same size as an A330 200  


User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16853 times:

Novair stuffs 299 seats on a A332   I flew a cheap ticket to Thailand once, but my knees got really sore after that flight. My first and only LCC long flight..

User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 3028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16793 times:

Minimalist at best is about all you can say about this interior, but in a way thats all they need.

White seats will likely not look that good after a couple of years though with all the wear and tear.

One thing though is this shows just how things really have not changed with the 787. It still looks like any other plane on the inside, with larger windows the only innovative thing that can be seen. The more we progress the more we still seem stuck with the same overall product many years down the track.


User currently offlineDahlgardo From Denmark, joined Sep 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16694 times:

Looks minimalistic and, hmmmm, dense   

But hey, Norwegian is a LCC and their product reflects that, so I guess that's fair enough.

In some way it's more honest than "full service" carriers with their cramped un-attractive Y10 seating on 77W.

Best of luck to Norwegian and their longhaul operations.



Nothing to say
User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15138 times:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 15):
White seats

Looks like they are light grey   But I agree , they will proabably notice the expence of the drycleaning after a while ...


Please remember that this is just an ilustration. I am pretty sure that the cabin will have both IFE and WIFI onboard. For all passengers or those who want to pay extra for it.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14419 times:

It's hard to see the pitch from these photos. And we were all expecting a 3-3-3 config, especially when an airline like QR will use 3-3-3.

291 seats is quite a bit more than NH and JAL, but seeing as DY won't have business class, but rather something that looks like Y+, I'm not surprised at this number. And if DY can deliver on their promise of intercontinental returns for 2000KR, I don't think anyone has the right to complain!

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14206 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 18):
And if DY can deliver on their promise of intercontinental returns for 2000KR, I don't think anyone has the right to complain!

Don't get your hopes up too high   There no doubt will be tickets for this price but I'm guessing that most of the 291 passengers will pay a higher price. That is'nt to say that it won't be lower than for instance SAS, but I doubt it will be as low as 2000 return for most people.

As long as there will be IFE onboard and possibility of buying food, I am not gonna complain. I am used to flying economy also over long distances, so I don't think this will be any worse than flying a regular economy seated flight.

Time will tell  


User currently offlineln-kgl From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1083 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12790 times:

Gentlemen, before we continue nagging about the confined space at Norwegian IC, let's first see what is offered out of the box today:



It's the A330 with 3+3+3 seating that offers the least seat width, and Air Asia X flies the A333 in this configuration.

On second place from the bottom comes the Boeing 777 with 3+4+3 seating. Well, who do you think flies with this type of seating? Here are seven examples: Air France, Air New Zealand, ANA, Austrian, Emirates, JAL and TAM. All these are more and less legacy carriers.

In other words, Norwegian IC hasn't gone for the highest density seating in their economy part of the 787 - but is way better than the worst in the business.

Now let's continue with Norwegian "business" cabin of the Norwegian IC 787, the seat and aisle width there is more and less identical to the SAS Economy+ seating (2+3+2) in their long haul fleet. With that, it's easy to says Norwegian IC will offer the front of the cabin to people that want extra space both sidewise and lengthwise.

Since the pictures are Autocad drawings and not photos, you can't see what seat manufaturer that will be use or the model they will use. Since Norwegian now is installing Recaro seats in their 738, it would be a safe guess to say it will be the same manufaturer for the Norwegian IC seats. I don't think I'm way off if I guess the CL 3620 for the brunt of the seats.


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12685 times:

It looks like a 777 interior. Never mind let's wave our flag anyway.

Is any airline hoping to use their 787 for more than just a passenger bus? Where's the luxury?


User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12183 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 21):
Where's the luxury

Luxury is really a niche market today and not something to base an airline on.


User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11947 times:

Quoting ln-kgl (Reply 20):
Well, who do you think flies with this type of seating? JAL

To be fair, JAL is only 3-4-3 on their domestic aircraft, where the seat comfort is the same as 737s which operate similar 1-2 hour flights throughout the world. I believe that your inclusion of JAL (and ANA come to think of it) is not in keeping with the (otherwise valid) point you made.

JAL International Configuration
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/777.html

http://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/777er.html

JAL Domestic Configuration
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/773.html

http://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/772.html

ANA also only use 3-4-3 on their domestic aircraft.

[Edited 2012-03-24 15:51:24]

User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1083 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11822 times:

Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 23):
To be fair, JAL is only 3-4-3 on their domestic aircraft, where the seat comfort is the same as 737s which operate similar 1-2 hour flights throughout the world. I believe that your inclusion of JAL (and ANA come to think of it) is not in keeping with the (otherwise valid) point you made.

I didn't say anything about what share or what type of operation these 777s were used for, just that JAL flew a number of 777 with 3+4+3 seating. If you compare the seat width of the 777s with 3+4+3 seating with a 737 with 3+3 seating, they are identical. Air New Zealand too fly with a mix of 3+4+3 and 3+3+3 and the highest density you'll find on their newest 777-300ER.


25 Mortyman : Not really sure we can call Norwegian a lowcost carrier. It's not like it's Ryanair ...
26 windshear : Great stuff! This plane is perfect for offering a variety of long haul flights at low cost! I think Norwegian is the most progressive airline in North
27 Plane Holland : What's the difference then? I mean, Norwegian is also not KLM, Biman or Emirates. Biman is not KLM or Emirates but falls in the same category..
28 LN-KGL : One major difference between Ryanair and Norwegian is that Norwegian offers transfer tickets while Ryanair don't. In other words Norwegian has hubs an
29 CXfirst : Norwegian is an LCC, Ryanair would be an ULCC. Norwegian does not operate like a traditional legacy carrier. It has some perks over FR, but it is sti
30 LN-KGL : There aren't large difference between SAS and Norwegian on domestic flights in Norway. Many companies have been cost-conscious for years now, and the
31 CXfirst : I agree, but LCC isn't necessarily just low air fares, but it is low operating costs. DY has quite a bit lower, be this salaries of pilots and cabin
32 LN-KGL : I'm certain that Norwegian IC will follow the Norwegian Air Shuttle model with BOB, pay for the baggage you want to bring with you and pay to reservat
33 OA260 : Quite like the interior , Im sure it will look even better in real .
34 Harmonium : Looks dense? Yes indeed. You're talking about an LCC here. Don't expect to be overwhelmed. Expect it to be rather cheap. About the colors, if that bir
35 Mortyman : We all know that it will only be a certain limited amount of seats with this price If you look a few post up, you will see that many legacy carriers
36 Post contains images Harmonium : I saw It still looks dense to me. Not overly, extremely dense - but dense. I didn't mean that in a negative way at all, it's really just a fact that
37 qf002 : JQ has said they intend to fly '300 seat' 787's, with what will be a very similar product... QF domestic will have the same configuration as well (cu
38 Post contains images joost : It looks like most carriers, except for JL and NH, will be using 3-3-3 on the 787s. AI and UA for example, will be using a 3-3-3 set-up in Y. So bett
39 Post contains images Mortyman : It has never been said that you would be able to fly business for 2000 NOK return
40 tdscanuck : If they fit IFE at all, it will have PTV's. There are only two IFE systems on offer on the 787 (Panasonic and Thales) and they're both PTV systems. S
41 qf002 : What about a wireless delivery system, which passengers can pay to access on their own devices (or hire one)? This is a LCC we're talking about here,
42 Post contains links joost : And LOT will also configure it's Y-section in a 3-3-3 set-up, as can be seen on this pictures. Interesting enough, the 2-3-2 Y+ section in the LOT ai
43 na : I am not a big friend of greys. Its the colour of the ones too afraid to decide.[Edited 2012-03-27 02:37:29]
44 LN-KGL : They are identical - except for the colours and materials. Since we are talking about the colours - the light grey colour to the seats will be like a
45 tdscanuck : That's certainly an option (and probably more consistent with an LCC) but it's something Norwegian would have to work out directly with a different I
46 ferpe : Norwegian have WiFi on their new 737-800 and will reintroduce it on all their 737 during 2012. I would hardly believe they would not have it on their
47 Post contains links and images Mortyman : THe Norwegian DY official presentation of their upcomming B787's stats states that they will have entertainmentsystem. There will be AVOD in every sea
48 ferpe : Norwegian uses Row44 broadband solution for it's oneboard Wifi. Row44 in turn is based on a Hughes satellite network for the broadband service. Row44
49 time2lyme : I must say the seats do look incredibly uncomfortable. The photo at the front of Y looks straight off an old style bus - flat bench seats, and the one
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