( You can click on most of the pictures and get a bigger one. There are 5 pictures in the article )
Norwegian DY B787's will have 291 seats. 32 to of them at the front will be in a different section with bigger seats and legroom.
The first aircraft has a planned delivery in early 2013 and another one shortly after. The next ones will arrive in 2014 and 2015. The company has ordered a total of 6 B787's , 3 of wich are fuly owned and 3 that is leased.
Mortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18021 times:
I think the interior looks a bit pale, almost a bit sterile. Buy maybe the moodlighting and entertainment system will help ? I'm not sure the black leather interior of their B737 800 would have looked good for their upcomming B787's as it does for their B737 800*s
Either way, exciting times ahead for Norwegian aviation.
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 2842 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17451 times:
Quoting ju068 (Reply 6):
Will it have PTVs? Will the on board product be any different than their current one?
Well, looking at the pic of the section between the two cabins, one can see that on the far side, the seat (which will be in front of another seat), has no ptv. However, I think it is likely it has just been omitted as there hasn't been any announcement. I really hope they do get some good IFE.
IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2621 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15013 times:
Minimalist at best is about all you can say about this interior, but in a way thats all they need.
White seats will likely not look that good after a couple of years though with all the wear and tear.
One thing though is this shows just how things really have not changed with the 787. It still looks like any other plane on the inside, with larger windows the only innovative thing that can be seen. The more we progress the more we still seem stuck with the same overall product many years down the track.
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 2842 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12639 times:
It's hard to see the pitch from these photos. And we were all expecting a 3-3-3 config, especially when an airline like QR will use 3-3-3.
291 seats is quite a bit more than NH and JAL, but seeing as DY won't have business class, but rather something that looks like Y+, I'm not surprised at this number. And if DY can deliver on their promise of intercontinental returns for 2000KR, I don't think anyone has the right to complain!
Mortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12426 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 18): And if DY can deliver on their promise of intercontinental returns for 2000KR, I don't think anyone has the right to complain!
Don't get your hopes up too high There no doubt will be tickets for this price but I'm guessing that most of the 291 passengers will pay a higher price. That is'nt to say that it won't be lower than for instance SAS, but I doubt it will be as low as 2000 return for most people.
As long as there will be IFE onboard and possibility of buying food, I am not gonna complain. I am used to flying economy also over long distances, so I don't think this will be any worse than flying a regular economy seated flight.
ln-kgl From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 859 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11010 times:
Gentlemen, before we continue nagging about the confined space at Norwegian IC, let's first see what is offered out of the box today:
It's the A330 with 3+3+3 seating that offers the least seat width, and Air Asia X flies the A333 in this configuration.
On second place from the bottom comes the Boeing 777 with 3+4+3 seating. Well, who do you think flies with this type of seating? Here are seven examples: Air France, Air New Zealand, ANA, Austrian, Emirates, JAL and TAM. All these are more and less legacy carriers.
In other words, Norwegian IC hasn't gone for the highest density seating in their economy part of the 787 - but is way better than the worst in the business.
Now let's continue with Norwegian "business" cabin of the Norwegian IC 787, the seat and aisle width there is more and less identical to the SAS Economy+ seating (2+3+2) in their long haul fleet. With that, it's easy to says Norwegian IC will offer the front of the cabin to people that want extra space both sidewise and lengthwise.
Since the pictures are Autocad drawings and not photos, you can't see what seat manufaturer that will be use or the model they will use. Since Norwegian now is installing Recaro seats in their 738, it would be a safe guess to say it will be the same manufaturer for the Norwegian IC seats. I don't think I'm way off if I guess the CL 3620 for the brunt of the seats.
ditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 695 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10167 times:
Quoting ln-kgl (Reply 20): Well, who do you think flies with this type of seating? JAL
To be fair, JAL is only 3-4-3 on their domestic aircraft, where the seat comfort is the same as 737s which operate similar 1-2 hour flights throughout the world. I believe that your inclusion of JAL (and ANA come to think of it) is not in keeping with the (otherwise valid) point you made.
LN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 859 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10042 times:
Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 23): To be fair, JAL is only 3-4-3 on their domestic aircraft, where the seat comfort is the same as 737s which operate similar 1-2 hour flights throughout the world. I believe that your inclusion of JAL (and ANA come to think of it) is not in keeping with the (otherwise valid) point you made.
I didn't say anything about what share or what type of operation these 777s were used for, just that JAL flew a number of 777 with 3+4+3 seating. If you compare the seat width of the 777s with 3+4+3 seating with a 737 with 3+3 seating, they are identical. Air New Zealand too fly with a mix of 3+4+3 and 3+3+3 and the highest density you'll find on their newest 777-300ER.
25 Mortyman: Not really sure we can call Norwegian a lowcost carrier. It's not like it's Ryanair ...
26 windshear: Great stuff! This plane is perfect for offering a variety of long haul flights at low cost! I think Norwegian is the most progressive airline in North
27 Plane Holland: What's the difference then? I mean, Norwegian is also not KLM, Biman or Emirates. Biman is not KLM or Emirates but falls in the same category..
28 LN-KGL: One major difference between Ryanair and Norwegian is that Norwegian offers transfer tickets while Ryanair don't. In other words Norwegian has hubs an
29 CXfirst: Norwegian is an LCC, Ryanair would be an ULCC. Norwegian does not operate like a traditional legacy carrier. It has some perks over FR, but it is sti
30 LN-KGL: There aren't large difference between SAS and Norwegian on domestic flights in Norway. Many companies have been cost-conscious for years now, and the
31 CXfirst: I agree, but LCC isn't necessarily just low air fares, but it is low operating costs. DY has quite a bit lower, be this salaries of pilots and cabin
32 LN-KGL: I'm certain that Norwegian IC will follow the Norwegian Air Shuttle model with BOB, pay for the baggage you want to bring with you and pay to reservat
33 OA260: Quite like the interior , Im sure it will look even better in real .
34 Harmonium: Looks dense? Yes indeed. You're talking about an LCC here. Don't expect to be overwhelmed. Expect it to be rather cheap. About the colors, if that bir
35 Mortyman: We all know that it will only be a certain limited amount of seats with this price If you look a few post up, you will see that many legacy carriers
36 Harmonium: I saw It still looks dense to me. Not overly, extremely dense - but dense. I didn't mean that in a negative way at all, it's really just a fact that
37 qf002: JQ has said they intend to fly '300 seat' 787's, with what will be a very similar product... QF domestic will have the same configuration as well (cu
38 joost: It looks like most carriers, except for JL and NH, will be using 3-3-3 on the 787s. AI and UA for example, will be using a 3-3-3 set-up in Y. So bett
39 Mortyman: It has never been said that you would be able to fly business for 2000 NOK return
40 tdscanuck: If they fit IFE at all, it will have PTV's. There are only two IFE systems on offer on the 787 (Panasonic and Thales) and they're both PTV systems. S
41 qf002: What about a wireless delivery system, which passengers can pay to access on their own devices (or hire one)? This is a LCC we're talking about here,
42 joost: And LOT will also configure it's Y-section in a 3-3-3 set-up, as can be seen on this pictures. Interesting enough, the 2-3-2 Y+ section in the LOT ai
43 na: I am not a big friend of greys. Its the colour of the ones too afraid to decide.[Edited 2012-03-27 02:37:29]
44 LN-KGL: They are identical - except for the colours and materials. Since we are talking about the colours - the light grey colour to the seats will be like a
45 tdscanuck: That's certainly an option (and probably more consistent with an LCC) but it's something Norwegian would have to work out directly with a different I
46 ferpe: Norwegian have WiFi on their new 737-800 and will reintroduce it on all their 737 during 2012. I would hardly believe they would not have it on their
47 Mortyman: THe Norwegian DY official presentation of their upcomming B787's stats states that they will have entertainmentsystem. There will be AVOD in every sea
48 ferpe: Norwegian uses Row44 broadband solution for it's oneboard Wifi. Row44 in turn is based on a Hughes satellite network for the broadband service. Row44
49 time2lyme: I must say the seats do look incredibly uncomfortable. The photo at the front of Y looks straight off an old style bus - flat bench seats, and the one