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User currently offlineAlee From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

Why can't plane take off on a very hot day..Let's say 100 and above...

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User currently offlineB757-223 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Some airplanes can take-off in 100 and above. Take Las Vegas for example.

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Somebody correct me, if i'm wrong, but I think, this has to do with the fact, that hot air has less oxygene than cold air (basic physics). Is that right?

Gerardo



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User currently offlineDC8-63 From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

i think it's because density of air is not so high and there's less oxygen so the engines don't work as efficient as they do at low temperatures.
I've often heard of "hot and high" conditions, oxygen and density asre lower the higher one gets.


User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Hot air lacks the same density as colder air. Thus, less air travels past the wings. If less air travels past the wings, then there is a lack of lift. To compensate for this deficiency, aircraft need to move faster to achieve the same lift. That's the short version of the story...

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

lift is the major factor. Oxygen deprivation of the engines might occur at really extreme temps, but is unlikely to have much of an effect (though the somewhat lower thrust may be a factor in borderline situations).


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User currently offlineAlaskaMVP From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

I was in Vegas in early July, and it was very hot (106). The flight from PHX to LVS was very fun (not) as the America West pilots kept the stewardesses strapped in due to the turbulence from the air layers and some thunderheads (I really, really needed a triple vodka tonic on that flight).

While I was in vegas the next day, a cab driver told me the temperature hit 120 at the airport, and they were forced to close it for few hours. This seemed strange to me (since we had been taking off and landing at close to 110). I can understand this at a high altitude airport (Denver) at hot temperatures, but LVS is pretty low altitude. I think the Cab driver was wrong, but does anyone know if it ever gets so hot at LVS that they would close to all flights?


User currently offlineBeefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1562 times:

A few years ago, I believe, here in PHX they closed down the airport for the afternoon bucause it was 120+. Its been a pretty cool summer here so far. Its usually only about 110 or so during the afternoon.

Michael Hawkins


User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

that affects the lift (wing) and thrust (engine). The compressor needs to compress the air into the combustion chamber to burn the fuel.
If the air density is too low, the engines won't be as powerful as in cool weather.

r panda


User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

Living in Phoenix I have to add my share. PHX is probably one of the hottest places in the US that an airplane could serve. We get well over 100 degrees, up to 120 rarely. Commercial jetliners are only certified to take off in under 120 degree conditions due to the thickness of the air. In winter since the air is colder it is more dense than hot air, so if we hit 120+ our airport gets shut down as a safety regulation. Since the air is so thin in hot weather, the airplanes have trouble climbing and could stall if the conditions are right. A few years ago we did have to shut down the airport, and being the busiest 2 runway airport in the US at that time you can imagine what a mess that caused!

-Notar520AC



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