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Next Int'l Airline To ORD Will Be?  
User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 444 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8530 times:

a) none
b) EK, has to happen some day, one would think?
c) QR, if not EK, why not QR (involved in community and tied in with AA).
d) NZ. 787 would fit nice, has been talked about, but wtih IAH happening soon?
e) QF, announced, but stopped, now at DFW, seems like a long stretch.
f) LA, long rumored ORD-LIM-SCL, but will this happen?
g) AV, even longer shot, but with Star?
h) MS, ORD-CAI
i) LY, ORD-TLV (if given cat 1)
j) OS, third time the charm (now with LH)?
k) 748 comes to ORD
l) 380 comes to ORD

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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15715 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
Next Int'l Airline To ORD Will Be?  

I think it's mostly a matter if someone beats Emirates or if they are the next new carrier.



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2863 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8191 times:
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I heard from an FA, so take for what it's worth that TAM was considering Chicago. And if/when it leaves Star Alliance it would seem to make sense.

But there are so many "unserved routes" in the world that seem like a no brainer, but never come to be.



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User currently offlinekordcj From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7968 times:

Hello everyone! This is my first post here on a.net! I have been an avid reader/lurker of the forums for years, and actually am nervous about contributing to the conversations. Some of the guys here can be ruthless if you post in error. I've learned from reading the forum, never state a fact without a supporting link .

Hopefully the EK rumors are true as I have yet to see anything official from anyone. Also hoping we can see more Central/South American carriers enter the Chicago market. TAM or LAN would be great. Even better would be AV starting service to Bogota, Chicago's sister city.

NZ would be by number one choice since I'm moving there in 5 months, but has anyone successfully flown the Midwest or East Coast to Oceania non-stop profitably? I remember back in the mid/late 90s seeing the Qantas logo up on T5, but don't believe their metal actually ever served ORD.

Aside from EK though, I think we'll probably see the A380 or 748 from LH before any of the other carriers on the list. I think the new runway 10C-28C is still on schedule to open next year now that the cemetery fiasco has been laid to rest. no pun intended. I believe that runway was specifically built with those two craft in mind.



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User currently offlinevhtje From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7884 times:
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Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
b) EK, has to happen some day, one would think?
c) QR, if not EK, why not QR
Quoting kordcj (Reply 3):
Hopefully the EK rumors are true

I have wondered about Middle-Eastern carriers and the US market before. Who could the EK et al carry to the US? Their hubs are too far east for the European market (travelling with them would invovle too much back tracking) and they are in the wrong direction for SE Asia and Oceania passengers.

The far-eastern Asian cities would want fly to the US going east, not west.

That leaves, surely, only the subcontinent and Africa as potential markets. But they are not big enough, surely?

(Perhaps Russia? But how much market is their for Russian/US traffic anyway?)


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

Quoting vhtje (Reply 4):
I have wondered about Middle-Eastern carriers and the US market before. Who could the EK et al carry to the US? Their hubs are too far east for the European market (travelling with them would invovle too much back tracking) and they are in the wrong direction for SE Asia and Oceania passengers.

You say this as if EK doesn't already fly to North America. It flies to seven cities in North America, soon to be eight (and likely eleven by the end of 2013).

It carries traffic, obviously, to the Middle East. There is also the eastern African seaboard, the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, many former Soviet states and Indian ocean islands. Further, from East Coast destinations, it is absolutely in the right direction for Southeast Asia. Remeber, SQ flies to JFK and IAH via Europe, and MAS' former Newark flights were via Dubai itself.



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2948 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7833 times:

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
EK, has to happen some day, one would think?

IMO they will be the next... If not this year, then it will be early 2013.

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
NZ. 787 would fit nice, has been talked about, but wtih IAH happening soon?

If this happens, it won't be until 2015-16. that's still 4 years off. I don't think that UA's flight out of IAH will be an issue -- anybody in Australia/NZ would far rather fly NZ over UA.

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
QF, announced, but stopped, now at DFW, seems like a long stretch.

No way will QF ever go to ORD. It makes no sense to add the extra cost of getting to ORD over DFW, when DFW offers every benefit of ORD, and there is a very small local market.

So basically I see EK as the next airline at ORD... SQ could also be a candidate to open a one-stop flight (wasn't this rumoured via Southern Europe?)


User currently onlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 721 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7765 times:

Quoting vhtje (Reply 4):
I have wondered about Middle-Eastern carriers and the US market before. Who could the EK et al carry to the US? Their hubs are too far east for the European market (travelling with them would invovle too much back tracking) and they are in the wrong direction for SE Asia and Oceania passengers.

There are quite a few more from that region (Middle East, Asia Minor) actually:

EK .... JFK, LAX, IAH, SFO, SEA, DFW, IAD (soon)
TK .... JFK, LAX, ORD, IAD .... more coming soon
QR .... JFK, IAH, IAD .... they'll add too, for sure
EY .... JFK, ORD, IAD (announced for 2013)
RJ .... JFK, ORD, DTW
LY .... JFK, EWR, LAX
KU .... JFK
SV .... JFK

So, seems like there is a LOT of traffic to be carried. As MAH4546 pointed out ... Middle East, East Africa, and the Indian Subcontinent primarily. And then some connect to Central Asia and to the Far East, I'm sure, if given the right fare. I may have missed some airlines or flights too ... please add.

[Edited 2012-03-26 02:35:30]

User currently onlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 7406 times:

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
c) QR, if not EK, why not QR (involved in community and tied in with AA).

QR is actually partnered with UA not AA...but I think they would be a great fit for ORD since I don't see UA flying to the Middle East from ORD, only from IAD and EWR.

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
d) NZ. 787 would fit nice, has been talked about, but wtih IAH happening soon?



I can't see this ever happening... IAH makes a lot of sense, most of the US and Mexico is connected with IAH...ORD wouldn't add much. NZ is not a large market...

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
f) LA, long rumored ORD-LIM-SCL, but will this happen?

My prediction is that someone will be starting ORD-LIM in the next 1-2 years...my ranking of likelyhood is TA, LA, UA, AA...

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
g) AV, even longer shot, but with Star?

I don't think this is too much of a long shot...ORD-LIM and/or ORD-BOG will be coming

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
j) OS, third time the charm (now with LH)?

Not sure why this hasn't done well with a 763...

Quoting VC10er (Reply 2):
I heard from an FA, so take for what it's worth that TAM was considering Chicago. And if/when it leaves Star Alliance it would seem to make sense.

I think TAM's long haul network is still pretty thin, I would think there are a lot of other destinations that TAM needs to serve before ORD. I don't see AA doing ORD-Brazil... UA has this covered pretty well right now...and I believe they continued to serve it in the time between Varig and TAM being partners with UA...


User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 7344 times:

EI could possibly restart ORD in a few years from SNN.

But like all of the above, EK is first in my opinion.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2159 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 7222 times:

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
d) NZ. 787 would fit nice, has been talked about, but wtih IAH happening soon?

In addition to IAH, NZ flies to LAX and SFO. While both of these are smaller *A hubs than ORD, IAH fills the void quite well to provide the necessary connections to capture US-NZ traffic originating east of California.

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
e) QF, announced, but stopped, now at DFW, seems like a long stretch.

Same situation as above, and more urgently, QF's international network is a giant mess right now. A high-risk, ULH flight to ORD with increasing oil prices (and lack of available ac?) would render this a giant disaster, especially with the dwindling AA hub in Chicago.

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
f) LA, long rumored ORD-LIM-SCL, but will this happen?
Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
g) AV, even longer shot, but with Star?

LAN would be a welcome addition to Chicago, but LAN tends to be very conservative with its network planning. As is, ORD-South America traffic has options via TA, AM, CM, AA, DL, etc. Not underserved by any means for a market that tends to be "thinner" for deep South America.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 6):
So basically I see EK as the next airline at ORD... SQ could also be a candidate to open a one-stop flight (wasn't this rumoured via Southern Europe?)

EK is the most probable bet.

I've wondered if ORD could support an additional Asian carrier (CI, BR, CA) to PEK or TPE. I'd add TPE as a wild card but then again I know nothing about whether there is a large local market between China and Taiwan.



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User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 946 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 6782 times:

I think it may be AB from BBI, especially now that they have joined OneWorld.

User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2577 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 6757 times:
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It boggles my mind that EK fly to SEA but not ORD given their extravagant brand image and show-off style of operations. I would think by now they would have started the route just so they can boast that they fly there, loads be damned. Who the hell flies to Seattle from Dubai???

User currently offlineORDJOE From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 12):
Who the hell flies to Seattle from Dubai??

All the microsoft and scores of other tech firms wanting to get to Mumbai and the other silicone valleys of India, EK got in on an underserved market.


I could see EK coming, there is still demand for mid east and asia from ORD.

Would be nice to see LA start LIM or something, ORD has minimal south America coverage (not counting central america) that UA flight to GRU does amazingly well to my understanding, I am surprised AA has not tried more ORD-south america.
NZ and QF, I highly doubt especially with fuel as it is. MS no chance I see. I could see LY starting if they get the that clearance back. There is a substantial Jewish population around here, plus other business and leisure travel, does anyone know why they left ORD back in the 90's

748, could see LH sending it here
A380 I would think KE would be the best shot, possibly BA but isnt there an issue that the A380's wing span is too wide that they have to close off traffic when it is taxiing, or did I read that wrong somewhere

Quoting cipango (Reply 9):
EI could possibly restart ORD in a few years from SNN.

Do people actually go to Shannon enough to justify WB service, I thought the whole deal with that was some govt mandate to try to drum up business and tourism. I have read a few trip reports long haul to SNN and all of them are on empty planes.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5734 times:

Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 13):
Do people actually go to Shannon enough to justify WB service, I thought the whole deal with that was some govt mandate to try to drum up business and tourism. I have read a few trip reports long haul to SNN and all of them are on empty planes.

Yes. While not the ideal-sized aircraft for the SNN market, widebody service from here to JFK, BOS and YYZ has proven justifiable in the summer season as shown by Aer Lingus and Air Transat over the past number of years. The "Shannon Stopover" rule you mention was abolished in 2007 so airlines are no longer tied down to operate into SNN; they choose to. The EI chairman was quoted as saying the SNN-ORD nonstops performed better than DUB-IAD before both routes (and DUB-SFO) were axed in 2009 and that SNN-ORD and DUB-US West Coast will return, it's just a matter of when. I believe SNN-ORD did particularly well on cargo.

But before EI adds service to ORD, I think Emirates and Qatar Airways are the likely next contenders.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2159 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 5469 times:

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 12):
It boggles my mind that EK fly to SEA but not ORD given their extravagant brand image and show-off style of operations. I would think by now they would have started the route just so they can boast that they fly there, loads be damned. Who the hell flies to Seattle from Dubai???

You're making it sound as though EK announced a flight to San Antonio over Chicago. While EK certainly markets itself with more flair than other carriers, they usually have a compelling business case to back up their decisions. How do we know this? Because they are consistently profitable. Don't confuse them with IT   

There is a high volume of tourism and business travel between the Pacific Northwest and Southeast Asia, not to mention a significant level of cargo demand, to warrant the nonstop SEADXB link.

While load factors have been less than stellar, I attribute that moreso to the state of the economy rather than lack of potential on this route. Give it time, and it shall improve.

Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 13):
Would be nice to see LA start LIM or something, ORD has minimal south America coverage (not counting central america) that UA flight to GRU does amazingly well to my understanding, I am surprised AA has not tried more ORD-south america.

GRU does well because of the very nature that it is GRU. Outside of Sao Paulo, however, ORD-South America routes are non-contenders.

EZE iwould be the next logical destination to be served from ORD, but both UA and AA have tried ORD-EZE and failed, miserably. Remember, deep South America flights require two aircraft, with low utilization rates, and tend to be long, thin and highly seasonal.

That being said, my only inclination is that for an ORD-South America flight to succeed, it would need to be to a city in a more northern region, and LIM seems like an obvious choice. Perhaps the advent of the 787 may allow for better market economics for such a route to succeed. Even still, I am skeptical given the vast connections over IAH, ATL, MIA and to a lesser extent, DFW, that render such a route unnecessary.

Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 13):
I could see LY starting if they get the that clearance back. There is a substantial Jewish population around here, plus other business and leisure travel, does anyone know why they left ORD back in the 90's

The "large Jewish population" factor never is a justifiable reason alone to launch nonstop XXX-TLV routes. If that were the case, then there would be a nonstop MIA-TLV, DFW-TLV, IAD-TLV, ORD-TLV, even EZE-TLV flights.

What DOES support a flight to TLV is a large Israeli population in a given city, which provide ties between Israeli businesses and commerce, in addition to the Jewish population. The latter contingency is often far lower yielding and travels less frequently to Israel (i.e. birthright, etc) which will obviously not sustain a year-round flight.

Now, in Chicago's defense, those Israeli commercial ties do exist in the city, but enough data points seem to indicate that despite such presence, LY has never placed a high value on their ORD flights. Like PK, they come and go even with decent load factors. While LY has never publicly stated (at least to my knowledge) that the ORD flights were unprofitable, they also never confirmed that they were indeed profitable, either. I'm inclined to believe they were so-so, especially since they were operating a tag-on to ORD from YYZ/EWR.

Given that LY is not a strong competitor like EK, EY, or TK, I don't think the odds are good that they can return to Chicago proftiably in the future. Particularly with plenty of nonstop options via the East Coast on DL, US and UA, plus a huge spread of European carriers, which currently fly ORD-TLV 1-stop.



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User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

Would AB ever consider service, or is LH+UA too strong there to compete?

User currently offlineORDJOE From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

Quoting jreuschl (Reply 16):
Would AB ever consider service, or is LH+UA too strong there to compete

Seeing as AB still seems to be somewhat leisure minded of a carier, it is possible a seasonal flight, I suppose with AA feed could be possible, but I would not hold my breath on them

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 15):
especially since they were operating a tag-on to ORD from YYZ/EWR.

Interesting I did not know that it was a tag on. I am surprised though that ORD can not sustain a flight to TLV, I suppose more money could be made sending the plane elsewhere, but with Chicago being the second most important business city in the US I would think there would be a good mix of leisure and business PAX. I will though agree with EY and possibly EK coming El Al would have to target O+D.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4229 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5195 times:
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Quoting ASA (Reply 7):
SV .... JFK

JFK and IAD


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

Quoting kordcj (Reply 3):
Hello everyone! This is my first post here on a.net! I have been an avid reader/lurker of the forums for years, and actually am nervous about contributing to the conversations. Some of the guys here can be ruthless if you post in error. I've learned from reading the forum, never state a fact without a supporting link

Welcome to A.net, I remember my first postings, thanks for joining in, I always love to hear new ideas and thoughts here.
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User currently offlineB735 From Denmark, joined Oct 2010, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

I am surprised that no one mentioned Icelandair yet.

FI seem to have the right size aircraft to make it profitable for them.

Just my two cents

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User currently offlineORDJOE From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

Quoting B735 (Reply 20):

Did not think of them, their 757s do have the legs to do it, plus they have some amazing fare sales, would not mind seeing them .


User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3333 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4616 times:
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Quoting B735 (Reply 20):
I am surprised that no one mentioned Icelandair yet.

FI seem to have the right size aircraft to make it profitable for them.

Just my two cents

B735

I thought we had the other Icelandic airline, I think Iceland Express service us to Iceland?

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User currently offlineericaasen From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Technically, the next international airline at ORD is WestJet. Unless we're talking about the next one after WestJet, in which case it'll be EK.

User currently offlinekordcj From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4348 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 19):

Thanks for the welcome. It'll be nice to contribute to these conversations with people I've come to know over the years but have never actually spoken with.

Quoting LFutia (Reply 22):

Aren't they extremely seasonal with service to ORD? I think like June thru August seasonal. I would've preferred to see Icelandair, but that was only so I could see their 757-300 taxiing around the field. Now that the UA/CO merger is about done, I got my wish  .



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25 ORDJOE : I completely forgot about this. I suppose I will take them none the less, but they are seasonal and only once a week, as often as I am around ORD I h
26 yeogeo : Iceland Express restructured last Fall after Astraeus collapsed (the 757's used for ORD were Astraeus') and dropped many routes, including ORD. Now t
27 Post contains links and images yeogeo : I’m a little surprised that no one has brought up the Chinese (and to a lesser extent, the Taiwanese). I think there’s a possibility in the medium
28 IrishAyes : I mentioned it in reply 10. See below:
29 Cubsrule : On what do you base the assertion that UA "failed miserably?" I believe they are on the record as saying it was cut because it was a single route tha
30 yeogeo : So you did, I missed it. Apologies! I agree with you; especially the Chinese should be expanding their horizons in North America, but I don't feel BR
31 Boeing747_600 : Doesn't EI still operate DUB-ORD? Considering the fact that as prolific a carrier as AF considers ORD worth serving only on a seasonal basis, I would
32 Post contains images yeogeo : The DL partnership in ST has more bearing on AF's pulling out seasonally than any loss of interest in Chicago as a destination by foreign carriers, I
33 Boeing747_600 : I'll definitely wager on no new carriers outside of North America (everything north of and including Panama)
34 LAXdude1023 : Well, for whatever reason, it isnt here any more. I dont have any knowledge on how bad United failed. I do know that AA failed really miserably on OR
35 Post contains images yeogeo : You're on! -even with the beyond North America stipulation. You can IM me on 29 March 2013 if no new carriers announce, you win and I'll IM you befor
36 Cubsrule : No question there. But no one seems to be able to prove that it was nearly as bad for UA as for AA.
38 IrishAyes : ORD-EZE has been started, stopped, started, stopped, started and stopped, and not resumed since 2008. Twice (or was it 3 times?) on UA, once on AA. I
39 Cubsrule : Are you suggesting that a publicly-held company like UA can just lie to the public? If so, you need to review the securities laws (I imagine they als
40 cipango : Yes EI does serve DUB-ORD daily. I just meant EI might restart a second route to ORD from SNN.
41 IrishAyes : Look, there's no need to get overly tactical here. I will admit I am unfamiliar with the laws, but my point was that there were likely several additi
42 Cubsrule : Yields weren't bad given that UA didn't have the right airplane for the job density-wise. The ability to funnel pax to MVD, which is tiny but pretty
43 yyzala : SU is a possibility, as early as summer 2013. They have served ORD before and so had AA, so there should definitely be a market.
44 LAXdude1023 : Thats another route that AA failed miserably at. I dont know how lucrative the market is. I actually flew it. There were 3 people in J on my flight.
45 MAH4546 : How is there definitely a market? AA failed, SU failed and it's been pretty much with zero service for the past decade sans the AA stint. That right
46 yyzala : AA tried to make USA (+ORD)-DME work. Unfortunately, trying to take customers away from DL and SU is not a very smart idea. What's making DL and SU su
47 Boeing747_600 : They may be hurting when it comes to the bottom line, but they are still prolific in terms of a route network compared to most international carriers
48 nomorerjs : EK has to happen some day. ORD-EZE was a 744 on UA during the holidays. UA can make this work with Asian connections, but the economy in Argentina mak
49 DavidByrne : As noted by others, NZ is a candidate. The carrier has signalled strong interest in serving ORD once its 789s are delivered . . . whenever that might
50 Post contains links and images yeogeo : I sure hope you're right! It would give me a thrill to see a 789 version of one of these tooling around O'Hare... View Large View MediumPhoto © Mehd
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