Some of the goods expected to be carried include seafood, fresh fruits and vegetables, medical equipment, software, technology and telecommunications equipment, computer and electronic products, non-electrical machinery, chemicals and fabricated metal products. Additionally there would be aircraft parts and aircraft engines to service the growing fleet and the Emirates Engineering facilities which carries out maintenance under contract to other airlines.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4443 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20262 times:
I think EK put a lot of thought into the decision to operate a daily service to SEA, they did it in a traditionally slow period of the year for travel. It's way too soon to debate if this route will make it long term, but I'd expect passengers are not the largest motivating factor for EK on this route.
This flight is not just for Seattle, but the entire Northwest, in addition to the goods that can transport via EK cargo, would be products made here in Oregon from Intel, as well as business travel for Nike, Adidas, Freightliner and more. I think SEA is a season -sentric market, and if airlines want to go year round, you have to ebb and flow with the season. BA has at some point been less than daily to London during the off season, or a tag via YVR, to a twice daily operation during the summer.
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boeing773W From South Africa, joined Mar 2012, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 18706 times:
Quoting rotating14 (Reply 1): How long ago did they change from the 300-er to the smaller LR?? Makes sense to me though. I always thought it (777-300er) would be too much plane for that route.
They only operated the 77W for the first 2-3 days or so following the launch, and then switched to the 77L.
Quoting aerohottie (Reply 6): Perhaps carrying Boeing parts for their aircraft back to Dubai MX lol, maybe cheaper to haul it themselves rather than pay for others
Cargo is definitely a large part of it but it can't only be cargo, otherwise they would have just launched a freight service with Emirates SkyCargo to SEA. There's probably quite a bit of passenger traffic otherwise they wouldn't have launched the route. As the poster further up noted, the traffic is not just SEA bound, but the entire northwestern United States.
Also, let's not forget that Vancouver is pretty close and I have no doubt that there would be people from there who would fly EK from SEA. They've been facing fierce opposition from the Canadians with launching service to new cities there (even increasing YYZ service).
santos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 760 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17665 times:
I think people sometimes forget that load factor has nothing to do with how profitable the route is.
First Class/Business Class and Cargo are the main 'bread & butter' for any route.
Load factor can be low, but what it matter is the yields.
HiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1390 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17288 times:
I think another question is how badly are they hurting BA SEA-LHR, DL SEA-AMS and AF SEA-CDG, LH SEA-FRA? I'm sure they've all taken a wee hit from losing many of those with connections to the Middle East, India and Africa.
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5387 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17263 times:
Quoting something (Reply 10): The 77L was put on the route because the 77W is needed elsewhere as A380 substitution while that fleet is undergoing wing-crack repairs. The 77W should be back on the DXB-SEA-DXB run around May.
Maybe...I felt they needed the capacity down here in Houston after we lost the 2nd daily to DFW and the single daily 77L was not enough capacity whereas 2 daily was too much capacity. I never saw SEA warranting the 77W capacity - maybe after a few seasons.