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United And LHR, Will It Ever Come Together?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2964 posts, RR: 13
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10752 times:
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I have my 4th United flight from the US to LHR tomorrow. What is the status of moving old CO and UA gates together? And if they do, will they keep the nice black check-in counter for First Class and Global Services? And it seems as if UA all together at Heathrow deserves the United International Club and United club and not lean on a blended Star Alliance lounge (which is new and nice looking but falls way short of the competition)

In fact, how many United flights are there into LHR from the USA?


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User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10107 times:

Its dragging isn't it. I wish CO(UA) could have moved to T1 by now but I guess its just a question of gate space and as such I don't think we will see consolidation until T2 is finished but someone please correct me if I am wrong.

There must be something in the region of 15 flights a day out of LHR to the states to EWR. ORD, IAD, ORD, IAH, SFO and LAX


User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10083 times:

Does CO need any star alliance feed at LHR? or is LHR the final destination/original origin for most CO pax?

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7679 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9974 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
In fact, how many United flights are there into LHR from the USA?

According to the LHR slot coordinator, Aiurport Coordination Ltd at

http://www.acl-uk.org/reportsStatistics.aspx?id=98&subjectId=33

UA have 238 weekly arrival and departure slots at LHR, eqivalent to 119 weekly or 17 daily rotations in and out of LHR Check out page 2 of the latest report (Summer 2012) at the above link.


User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1585 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 9779 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 3):
According to the LHR slot coordinator, Aiurport Coordination Ltd at

http://www.acl-uk.org/reportsStatistics.aspx?id=98&subjectId=33

UA have 238 weekly arrival and departure slots at LHR, eqivalent to 119 weekly or 17 daily rotations in and out of LHR Check out page 2 of the latest report (Summer 2012) at the above link.

Star Alliance website shows 210 weekly movements, so 105 departures a week, or 15 a day.

http://www.staralliance.com/en/servi...stination-information/airport/lhr/

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
And it seems as if UA all together at Heathrow deserves the United International Club and United club and not lean on a blended Star Alliance lounge (which is new and nice looking but falls way short of the competition)

I doubt there'll be any changes to existing lounges until the new T2 opens. I suspect there will be common use lounges there too, but that's just a guess.


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[Edited 2012-03-26 05:30:41]


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User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1791 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 9418 times:

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 4):
Star Alliance website shows 210 weekly movements, so 105 departures a week, or 15 a day.

He was saying SLOTs so UA does have room for 2 more daily flights is what I'm gathering from putting both of your info together.

There were 5,782 scheduled UCH departures from LHR in 2011, 15.84 AVG/Day.

Depending on the day of week, UA does either 14, 15, or 16 daily departures from LHR.


User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3201 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 9378 times:

"Will it ever come together?"

Yes.



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4056 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 8793 times:
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On the average are more UA flights having to use bus gates versus jetway @ LHR? PM CO flights in T4 same?

User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

Never mind additional slots, UA could just increase capacity, expecially to EWR by getting three class 763/777 on the route ( I appreciate that you need the metal to do this but with the 787 coming soon my fingers are crossed) . IAH I am sure could do with three class as well IMHO.

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 8550 times:

It's rare for United to bus however there is little prospect of getting the T4 operation into T1, however T2 opens in 2013 and all United ops will be under one roof there. It's not a major hassle and T4 is in better shape than T1.

User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4370 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 8258 times:

Did Skyteam recently renovate T4 for its member airlines , or am I thinking of another terminal at LHR?


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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 7815 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 10):
Did Skyteam recently renovate T4 for its member airlines , or am I thinking of another terminal at LHR?

Correct. T4 for Skyteam and T1 for Star Alliance. With of course some other non-alliance carriers joining them too.

What will T2 be when it opens? I think I read somewhere that it'll be mainly *A, but has this changed?



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 7632 times:

Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 11):
What will T2 be when it opens? I think I read somewhere that it'll be mainly *A, but has this changed?

T1 - tbc - possibly demolished
T2 - STAR ALLIANCE
T3 - Oneworld / BA
T4 - Skyteam and non aligned
T5 - BA and IB


User currently offlinetraindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 7050 times:

Connecting between T1 and T4 is very easy due to dedicated shuttle buses. I usually fly into T4 from IAH and then take the bus to T1. I have done it in reverse as well. UA/CO connect with BD and LH at LHR on code-shares.

User currently offlineboacboac From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

UA will have 17 flights per day from LHR during the summer schedule.

User currently onlinephunc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 6225 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12):
T3 - Oneworld / BA
T4 - Skyteam and non aligned

Are you sure?

Can't see VS being happy to loose it's club house (and all their products; drive through check in, fast track security etc...) in T3 because they have to move to T4.


User currently offlinewilld From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12):
T1 - tbc - possibly demolished
T2 - STAR ALLIANCE
T3 - Oneworld / BA
T4 - Skyteam and non aligned
T5 - BA and IB

Plus VS terminal within a terminal at T3 as the VS Spin machine describes it.


User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

Quoting ual777uk (Reply 8):
UA could just increase capacity, expecially to EWR by getting three class 763/777 on the route ( I appreciate that you need the metal to do this but with the 787 coming soon my fingers are crossed)

One of those 763's are spoken for. There is another thread about UA upgrading IAD-CDG to a 763.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Quoting phunc (Reply 15):
Can't see VS being happy to loose it's club house (and all their products; drive through check in, fast track security etc...) in T3 because they have to move to T4.

I have given you the general principle, but of course there are objections. Virgin are staying in T3 as you say because of the sustained and continuing investment they have put in. They do have their own dedicated and modern check in facility but continue to use the worst gates where arrivals and departures are seperated on the same level in Pier 7.

[Edited 2012-03-26 14:57:43]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25838 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 4660 times:

Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 11):
Quoting brilondon (Reply 10):
Did Skyteam recently renovate T4 for its member airlines , or am I thinking of another terminal at LHR?

Correct. T4 for Skyteam and T1 for Star Alliance. With of course some other non-alliance carriers joining them too.

Quite a few Star Alliance carriers are still at T3 including AC, CA, NH, MS, ET, SK, SQ, TG, TK.


User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

I am quite happy that UA's flights to EWR/IAH are flying out of T4 because then I can use the Skyteam Lounge which is tons of times better than the lousy Star Alliance Lounge at T1 !  


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User currently offlinejrfspa320 From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):
Quite a few Star Alliance carriers are still at T3 including AC, CA, NH, MS, ET, SK, SQ, TG, TK.

They should move over to the new T2 once its complete


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