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Video Of Bad Turbulence On B6 Flight  
User currently offlineillinoisman From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 161 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22528 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1lwciuKnI

That's probably the worst I've seen from a video that's been posted online, but I'm still waiting for one that shows stuff flying around through the cabin. Anyone have any experiences with really bad turbulence that they'd like to share?

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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2894 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22411 times:

This seems quite bumpy, and the pilot did a good job warning everyone, but the doesn't even come close to some of the heavier stuff I have been through. I think its funny...the customer that just kept on working on her laptop through the entire thing...gotta meet that deadline LOL!!!


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User currently offlinespinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22346 times:

Honestly it doesn't seem all that bad. I wasn't sure how much was turbulence and how much was shaky camera. I would have expected more screams of terror.

User currently onlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 22194 times:

Yeah it's a bit hard to tell how much of it is just a shaky camera, and how much of it is related to turbulence. It looks about like what I experienced flying PHX-SLC last April. That lasted for just a few seconds, and then not a single bump for the rest of the flight. I've had other flights that were fairly bumpy from the top of descent all the way to touchdown. I do disagree with the video's description of extreme turbulence. At worst it's severe, but more likely moderate-severe.


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User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 21993 times:

Didnt seem that bad.

Worst turbulence I have encounters is flying a Cessna 172 at 500ft AGL hitting a down draft loosing about 30ft in a split second. Lets just say we headed straight for the coastline to get over water ASAP It was a rough over land.


User currently offlinefanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1609 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21777 times:

Looks fairly rough, but I've been in turbulence where that laptop would have gone flying and bins were popping open. People were definitlely screaming and crying. Lasted for about 10 min.


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User currently offlineCentre From Canada, joined Mar 2010, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21687 times:

Haven't seen the drop in altitude nor the rolling of aircraft after the drop.
Thanks to the OP for labeling it as bad, and not scary  
Quoting illinoisman (Thread starter):
t shows stuff flying around through the cabin.

comes with the drop in altitude  

Still, the worst one I had was on AC E190 climbing out of Tampa in August weather. kudos to AC pilots   



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User currently offlineSplitterz From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21671 times:

I realllyy enjoy turbulence, its a rush haha. Is that weird. When I am not incontrol, then i'd probably die.

User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 836 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21582 times:

Not so bad. Moderate at worst. Clearly the guy taking the video is a nervous passenger, despite his claim of 200k miles. His expletives describing a few bumps say it all.

User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21545 times:

Looks like it could've been worse, but there were definitely a few good jolts in there. Just a week ago I was flying PHX-TUS on a US CR9 and it was pretty bad. The weather across southern Arizona that day was really crappy and due to the short duration of the flight we were forced to fly through it instead of climbing to a higher altitude.


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 21459 times:

Seemed worse than normal but nothing to write home about. The camera shaking really makes it hard to really tell, there was a lot of noise back there from the galley I asume?
Surprisingly I have not had that many rough flights, even with many Miami summer afternoon flights.
On ZRH-MIA right after takeoff from ZRH we hit some bad bumps, pilot came right on the PA and quickly and urgently told the FA's to sit down, bumps only lasted a few mins. Only other time I can think of was on a Chalks flight on a summer afternoon coming into Watson Island. Small plane, hot weather with storm clouds near by, we moved around a bit enough to make some passengers sick but again did not remember it being too bad.
If there are no screams its smooth  Of course that's a bit of an exaggeration but with "bad" turbulence I always expects a few "whooas, and hey there's" etc.. I guess there was a little bit of that in the video, but I could not tell if it was just the guy filming or not.

Quoting fanoftristars (Reply 5):
laptop would have gone flying and bins were popping open.


The laptop not moving much makes me think the camera made it look worse than it was.



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User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 21296 times:

At first I thought it was pretty average, but then if you notice the heads of the passengers moving back and forth, it's clear that it's pretty bumpy. Not severe, but definitely on the heavier side of things.

User currently offline5MillionMiler From Australia, joined Sep 2011, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 21201 times:

Listening to the noises, that was pretty heavy chop. Laptops move with the tables anyway so you would generally not see it move. Yeah the heads get jolted in unison a few times. Definitely a lot of camera shake, but the cabin creak indicates a rough ride.

I think the noise makes a rough ride a lot worse (even though it is loose objects in the plane/bins rattling) it sounds like the fuselage is breaking up!


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19894 times:

Laughing at how your man is still typing away on his laptop! LOL!


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User currently offlinedaviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18503 times:

Looks very uncomfortable, but I wouldn't call it severe.

After about 300 flights, the only two that I can recall being bad were an AA F-100 from ORD to SWF. The plane bounced around pretty much like the video above. It didn't stop. No cabin service, you couldn't even read a newspaper or magazine. I called it "The Tigger Flight" because we bounced the entire way home. It wasn't frightening, just annoying.

The only flight I can recall being afraid of was many years ago on an AA DC-10 from BUF to LGA. LGA actually closed down for a while because of weather. We just circled through it for an hour. Wind, thunderstorms, hail. It was horrible. I actually had to lay down in the back of my car after landing until I could compose myself well enough to drive.


User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4274 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 17924 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 10):
The laptop not moving much makes me think the camera made it look worse than it was.

I agree, either intentionally or unintentionally, the camera shake probably makes it seem worse. It's kind of hard to video bumps. There were a couple of ripples that seemed to make other passengers move but it seems fairly routine to me. I'm sure any seasoned traveller has been in worse, goodness knows I have. My own benchmark is to put a glass of water, half-filled, on the tray. Would the bumps have dislodged or spilled the water on this flight? Perhaps but there was not a 50 foot dipper or drop on this video.

This appears to be an E190. I recall this being a topic once but it is my belief that the E190 series, and maybe the E170/5 too, seems to be more susceptible to turbulence than some other aircraft. I've noticed that Boeing 757s don't seem to suffer from as much severe turbulence as, say, an A320 but it is all relative and hard to tell. Obviously physics and the size of the aircraft makes a difference too. A Cessna 152 is going to be very bumpy compared to a larger aircraft. And B747s seem to glide gently through all but the roughest of skies.



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User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 733 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 17463 times:

Quoting 5MillionMiler (Reply 12):
I think the noise makes a rough ride a lot worse (even though it is loose objects in the plane/bins rattling) it sounds like the fuselage is breaking up!

Agreed! I was on a US 737-400 flight a couple of weeks ago from CLT-BWI. We didn't fly through any storms, per se, but it was windy all along the East Coast and I think they said the jet stream was moving or something. Anyway, we shook back and forth for the entire hour-long flight. As we were climbing, boy was that plane creaking and moaning and squeaking! I'm usually okay with most lighter turbulence, but the squeaking and rattling on this flight was sending my nerves over the edge!

My mom says that in 37 years of flying, her worst experience was a couple of years ago on a 777 NRT-IAD. They hit about 15-20 minutes of turbulence over the Pacific that was bad enough to overturn a drink cart in the galley (they were in the middle of a meal service at the time). She said the noise the cart made when it fell over was terrible and made everybody in the back of economy scream.



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User currently offlineSouthernDC9 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17344 times:

It's funny because when you watch this video YouTube recommends a bunch of other videos that claim to depict EXTREME/SEVERE!!!! turbulence - none of which are that impressive. Sometimes when I'm bored though I'll watch YouTube takeoff/landing videos, those are pretty fun...


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17153 times:

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 17):

It's funny because when you watch this video YouTube recommends a bunch of other videos that claim to depict EXTREME/SEVERE!!!! turbulence - none of which are that impressive. Sometimes when I'm bored though I'll watch YouTube takeoff/landing videos, those are pretty fun...

I know, those get me going too. But in all fairness, these people who post "extreme/severe" turbulence probably don't fly much and that the one trip they took, they thought what they experienced was terrifying, when to those seasoned travellers, it was nothing more than a nuisance.

Personally, having seen the aircraft cabin twice from being plastered to the ceiling, being thrown to the floor and having to grab the seat frame to hold on and, finally, finding myself under an overturned beverage cart, what the OP went through was nothing.

It is all in your personal experiences.



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User currently offlinetockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17039 times:

meh, moderate at best. this happens more often than you think. i had a landing at BWI a couple of years ago where we were pitching, rolling, moving violently all over the place. i looked at it this way: people pay huge money for roller coasters. getting zero g seat time as a passenger is like a free bonus.

it was fun to watch passenger reactions. some dug their nails into their arm rests. others tried to continue to read their books. others smiled and cheered.

to me, videos of the strength of airplane wings that i've seen on this site over the year have taught me that planes can take a huge amount of abuse. so i have religious-like faith in our engineers and figure we'll be down soon enough -- all in one piece.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 16689 times:

Here is a vid of some severe turb aftermath:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvgwyAERsyQ

[Edited 2012-03-29 08:14:09]

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16175 times:

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 20):

Here is a vid of some severe turb aftermath:

Yep, have had to clean that up. Part of the glamour of the job. Yet another reason why you wear your seatbelt (another thread all together).



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 15415 times:

Typical of New York,...they say they fill the "Pot Holes", but they never really do.

User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 948 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 15419 times:

All you guys are funny that are like "meh, not bad", or "I have been in worse back in 1994" First of all very few, if any of you are actual airline pilots that deal with this stuff every single day so your opinions are not very valid.
Either way its tough to tell exactly what type of turbulence or chop it is because of obvious camera movement. Based on the noise and how much peoples heads were moving I would feel safe in saying that is easily continuous moderate chop and turbulence. At the beginning of the video when the pilot is speaking, I would say that would be continuous light, then obviously moves into the moderate. Looks like they were all gettin thrown around pretty good at that point  


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 15384 times:

Quoting TrnsWrld (Reply 23):
actual airline pilots that deal with this stuff

or how about the crew actually dealing with it in the back  



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25 asteriskceo : I was flying PHX-LAX last week and it was so smooth, and then while we were descending through approx 8k ft, there was this huge thud. It felt like we
26 TrnsWrld : Well yes them to absolutely, but I was using the pilots as an example since they are the ones that would be classifying it as a specific type of turb
27 EWRCabincrew : I was busting your chops....lol...don't take me too seriously. Yes they are the ones who classify it, but tend to tone it down for the passengers as
28 Tradewinds : Looks like decent enough turbulence... the person on the computer is ace, though. I basically give up trying to work as soon as anything more than lig
29 LY777 : This video reminds me of a terrible LAX-CDG flight last November. The F/A told us that they saw this kind of turbulence every 10 years. At one point,
30 zippyjet : Hope passengers and crew are alright. Poor B6 it seems it's like Born Under a Bad Sign! The blue is overdue for some good luck. Hang in there to our f
31 contrails15 : I was working that day at JFK on the ramp. Some of the heaviest winds sustained we've had in sometime. My buddy flew in from TPA into JFK and said the
32 TheRedBaron : We will never see a severe turbulence video because you are scared, you are shitting your pants, screaming or covering yourself for all the things thr
33 DocLightning : Actually, she had to grab it to keep it from falling off the tray table. I was on a Skywest Brazilia on finals into SFO when we suddenly made a leftw
34 richierich : Not to be pedantic, but this video was apparently shot a year ago so it is hardly "news". Bad turbulence happens on not just some airlines but EVERY
35 CairnterriAIR : I remember back in the late 80's flying aboard a UsAir 737-200 from DCA to BDL. The plane was rocking and rolling all the way up to Hartford. But what
36 alitalia744 : what day was this? Flew LAX-CDG in late November and the flight from about Nebraska to the Ocean was nonstop, moderate to severe turbulence I would s
37 zippyjet : I feel B6 is perfectly safe and I'd nonrev on them in a N.Y. minute. And it seems when something goes viral or the media get their paws on it seems t
38 Post contains images airportugal310 : Um...ok. Guess you know everything there is to know then about everything...being a pilot and all
39 spacecadet : The problem is there are usually these things hanging off the wings called engines, and occasionally (ok, very rarely) poor maintenance can cause the
40 SouthernDC9 : One time flying ATL-MEM we had to sit on the runway for a while as a pretty solid t-storm passed over. I started talking to the lady across the aisle
41 shufflemoomin : How do pilots feel about moderate or severe turbulence? Does it ever worry them? Even when the aircraft is barely controllable?
42 LY777 : It was on Nov 13th. We hit very bad turbulence above the Rockies
43 RWA380 : My 2 were both NW, first was a DC-10 HNL-SFO, flight attendants were strapped in for about half the way to SFO, then it was an increase in altitude th
44 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Not anything that would scare me. I like turbulence and I have seen much worse. The thing though, it seems to me that turbulence always seems worse in
45 CRJ900 : The E190 is long and thin with large wings - just like the B737-800 I work on, and turbulence always feels more unruly on long thin aircraft, especial
46 shufflemoomin : I thought the best place to be for turbulence was the closest to the centre of gravity as possible. I thought that was just basic physics. I don't see
47 SANMAN66 : I can't even imagine what would happen if someone was in a lavatory when severe turbulence suddenly hits!
48 zippyjet : She may have been writing touchy feeley stuff she was too embarrassed to share with her loved onces, romantic squeezes and BFF's. Maybe she was givin
49 Post contains images Tradewinds : Put a doll in a cardboard box and shake it really hard. That's basically what would happen. (I was actually in the lav when we hit some moderate-size
50 CoachClass : The bottom drops out. About 15 years ago, UA 763 take off from MXP hit severe turbulence about 5 minutes into the climb. The plane went in every dire
51 SuperCaravelle : It really depends. Usually the area around MXP itself is not windy at all, being protected by the Alps, but I've had very smooth descents and very bu
52 SANMAN66 : Stuck in a lav during severe turbulence will make you fly solo! I guess it would be even worse for someone, if after getting tossed around in the lav
53 Viscount724 : Report dated 2 or 3 days ago from the Transport Canada daily occurrence database. YVR-YYC flights are often quite turbulent as they descend over the
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