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Plane Slices Woman In Half On Runway  
User currently offlineJasondn From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 202 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31667 times:

Disturbing story in the local news this morning.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...s-woman-in-half-on-runway-20120328

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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3963 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31540 times:

How would you not see, let alone hear a plane coming in to land? Very strange incident.

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31494 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 1):
Very strange incident.

Its africa. Having lived in africa 30 years, I can assure you ive seen lots of weird stuff on airfields. Wildlife is hard to keep out. Climbing people even more so.



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User currently offlineEGSUcrew From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31440 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 1):

I fly out if EGSQ airfield which has a footpath running across the middle of the runway, pedestrians have the right of way. The amount of people who are completly oblivious to an aircraft on final is shocking.

If you add some of the conditions I see at African airfields on tv, I can see how this could happen.

All that aside, a sad accident.


User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31332 times:

In many parts of the world, the video below represents a typical airport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdN13gnDqyw


User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 30566 times:

I operated into a strip in Zambia that had people forever crossing it. This was to the point that if you waited for the strip to be clear, you would be waiting all day. We would takeoff and land and people would still be running across. I never got close to collecting one but with the locals the way the often are, I can totally see how it happens.

User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 30389 times:

That is particularly gruesome. The pilot must be feeling quite traumatised by that..


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 30254 times:

This sounds horrible!
I wonder if they think the aircraft are slower than what they're actually travelling at.

Quoting EGSUcrew (Reply 3):
pedestrians have the right of way.

That's crazy. The airplane can't just stop.

This reminds me of this old thread.

Giraffe Collides With Aircraft (by ENU Jun 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)#1



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User currently offlineEGSUcrew From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 30095 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
That's crazy. The airplane can't just stop.

Nope! But the pilot just has to be aware and ready to go around at any moment.

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...EG_AD_2_EGSQ_2-1_en_2009-09-24.pdf


User currently offlineGingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 892 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 28290 times:

Quoting EGSUcrew (Reply 8):
Nope! But the pilot just has to be aware and ready to go around at any moment.

That is something that should be looked at in some depth. In this country of all places obsessed with health and safety, that just seems like a death/accident waiting to happen.



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User currently offlinelvhgel From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 28011 times:

It's a tragedy though in the video posted by

Quoting BlueJuice (Reply 4):

that aircraft is landing on the town's principal street, and we all know that if someone crosses at that moment, there is no way to stop a plane just after touch down (BTW talk about bush pilots) there seem to be not even enough space to make a go after the touch. Dangerous for the pedestrians, for the crew and the craft.


User currently offlineMountainFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 27582 times:

Quoting EGSUcrew (Reply 8):
Nope! But the pilot just has to be aware and ready to go around at any moment.

Without knowing the exact details it's hard to know, but it is quite possible he was already on the ground with a clear runway and she wasn't looking and ran across. In that case, it may have been impossible for him to go around.



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 27340 times:

Look both ways before you cross the runway I guess..what were these people doing on a runway to begin with?


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User currently offlineGrid From Kazakhstan, joined Apr 2010, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25819 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 1):
How would you not see, let alone hear a plane coming in to land? Very strange incident.

Blind and deaf?



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User currently offlineMountainFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25628 times:

Quoting Thrust (Reply 12):
what were these people doing on a runway to begin with?

In many countries around the world, it is quite normal for people to be on the runway at the smaller, more rural airports. That's if the "airport" is even an airport at all and not just a good section of road or an empty field near a school or a house or what have you. I've seen pictures of some "runways" that double as a kids soccer field. If a pilot wants to land, he makes a low pass first, which the locals know means to clear the way because he wants to land.

If you look at the chart EGSUcrew posted in reply 8, there is actually a published pedestrian path across this runway at the particular airport in question.



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User currently onlineEltomzo From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 21475 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 2):
Its africa. Having lived in africa 30 years, I can assure you ive seen lots of weird stuff on airfields. Wildlife is hard to keep out. Climbing people even more so.

TIA, as they say in Blood Diamond.



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User currently offlineJasondn From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20921 times:

It appears the runway is a divide between the workers of the quarry and the settlement. This obviously happens everyday judging by the path made.

Check these co-ordinates on Google Earth

26°29'42.83"S
29°58'47.70"E

Very sad, as the area around the runway seems to be secure, clear and open.


User currently offlineoksman From Brazil, joined Apr 2011, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 20161 times:

This is very sad indeed.

I was also impressed by this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6iLHhq_V5c&feature=related

During take off roll, aircraft needs to make a left turn to follow the runway, as it is just a regular road


User currently offlineEGSUcrew From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19951 times:

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 11):
Without knowing the exact details it's hard to know, but it is quite possible he was already on the ground with a clear runway and she wasn't looking and ran across. In that case, it may have been impossible for him to go around.

Yeah I wasn't making any accusations towards the pilot, I was just saying that's the drill at Clacton.

Quoting Gingersnap (Reply 9):
That is something that should be looked at in some depth. In this country of all places obsessed with health and safety, that just seems like a death/accident waiting to happen.

Well it's only a small airfield and all visiting pilots are required to PPR and have a brief, I think everyone (pedestrians included) have become used to the situation. It just doesn't always stop them standing on the path taking pictures whilst you're on a half mile final...


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 670 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 17463 times:
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Very sad.

Down in Guyana sometimes the pilots flying to the interior have to "buzz" the runway to clear the animals on it before landing.

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User currently offline757gb From Uruguay, joined Feb 2009, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 16574 times:

To be hit by a car... not likely but possible.
To be hit by a bus... less likely, still possible
To be hit by a train... very unlikely unless you are looking for it
To be hit by a landing plane... that's what I call having a really bad day

BTW, I certainly mean no disrespect and I'm not trying to make it sound funny in any way... it is horrible. It just boggles my mind when I think of it that way.



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User currently offlinefrmrCapCadet From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 14086 times:

We unfortunately have frequent RR pedestrian incidents in our US town and state. Sometimes MP-3 players are involved, but not always. It is surprisingly difficult for a person in a noisy environment to notice and intuit what direction the noise is coming from.


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User currently offlineyvphx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12947 times:

I think the most interesting part of this story is at the end of the article. It says:

- Were you there? Send us your eyewitness accounts and photos.

I say, pictures or it didn't happen.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12060 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12849 times:

Quoting EGSUcrew (Reply 3):
I fly out if EGSQ airfield which has a footpath running across the middle of the runway, pedestrians have the right of way. The amount of people who are completly oblivious to an aircraft on final is shocking.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
That's crazy. The airplane can't just stop.
Quoting EGSUcrew (Reply 8):
Nope! But the pilot just has to be aware and ready to go around at any moment.

There comes a point during landing where on the runway you don't have enough airspeed to go around, yet still to much speed to be able to stop. It is simple physics. So giving pedestrians, vehicles, livestock, etc. right of way over the airplane is just stupid.


User currently offlineChazPilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8055 times:

Quoting yvphx (Reply 22):

yvphx, you beat me to the punch on that one! Seriously - eyewitness photos? I think this is disturbingly clear enough without pics, IMHO.


25 Post contains images ATCtower : While I will say 'sad', this seems like a great candidate for the Darwin award... Africa or not, the common sense/intelligence required to not stand i
26 Glom : That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Aside from the obvious safety issue, it is a recipe for needless pollution. When a conflict arises, a
27 HPRamper : While amusing, I think that's a stock statement, on every story that the publication writes up. Not specific to this story.
28 EGSUcrew : Let me clear a few things up! At Clacton, if a pedestrian had entered the airfield, the aircraft MUST go around/hold short (but then this is no differ
29 Flaps : A Mooney approaching touchdown makes very little noise aside from the chirp of the tires on landing. What little sound it does make is primarily behin
30 DTWPurserBoy : We had a ground agent a few years ago at EWR who became distracted and accidentally walked into a running engine on a SAAB340. Passengers, pilots and
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