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Qantas A380 VH-OQA Nancy Bird QF arriving SYD 22/04  
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 28985 times:

Hello All,

Just delighted to inform everyone the return to service of Qantas' 1st A380 'Nancy Bird' VH-OQA scheduled to operate QF127 on the 28th of April...

Looking forward to seeing this bird being welcomed back into the family...

Considering how long this aircraft was grounded I believe it deserved its own thread...

EK413  


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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 28917 times:

Great to see her flying again after so long.

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 28905 times:

Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
Considering how long this aircraft was grounded I believe it deserved its own thread...

So for how long has it been grounded?



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 28850 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):

Since November 2010...

EK413



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2880 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 28736 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 3):
Since November 2010

Yikes, as badly as QF needed this aircraft in service, that's quite a long hit for QF. Who pays for lost revenue with the 380 while it's been down, insurance or did QF eat the costs?



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User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 28657 times:

Great news! Will be good to see some photos of her back in the air  


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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 28624 times:

Good news! Will be interesting to see if this deadline actually materialises (I hope it does! But I'll believe it when I see it!)

Any word on her arrival back in SYD? Might be worth a quick trip past the airport 
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 4):
Yikes, as badly as QF needed this aircraft in service, that's quite a long hit for QF. Who pays for lost revenue with the 380 while it's been down, insurance or did QF eat the costs?

QF received a compensation settlement from Rolls Royce, which was included in the FY10-11 reports. The total amount was never disclosed (IIRC), but it was said to be $80-100million.

As for repair costs -- I imagine that they will be initially settled by QF's insurance company, who will likely go after Rolls Royce for reimbursement...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 28482 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 6):

Unfortunately we only able to retrieve a return to schedule service date... I would imagine the aircraft to be ferried to Sydney a week prior to entry into service...

EK413



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2880 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 28415 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 6):
QF received a compensation settlement from Rolls Royce, which was included in the FY10-11 reports. The total amount was never disclosed (IIRC), but it was said to be $80-100million

Would this really be enough to properly compensate QF for the loss of revenue and service?



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 28391 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):

I believe the final amount of compensation was a higher figure and to answer your question its definitely not enough considering the revenue losses...

EK413



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 28376 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):
Would this really be enough to properly compensate QF for the loss of revenue and service?

QF, RR and all the various lawyers seem to think so... I was also apprehensive about this figure at first, but you have to remember that a lot of the cost would probably have stemmed from QF's fleet-wide grounding, for which responsibility lies with QF.

The extra 150-odd seats in the A380 could probably only have generated an extra $50-70million or so in additional revenue (max) over 18 months, plus the compensation would account for the additional fuel burn/depreciation of retaining a 744.

Doesn't seem too far off IMO, for covering the cost of the single aircraft out of service for around 18 months. They might well get more yet (seeing as the repair time has stretched out considerably since the settlement date 12 months ago)...


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28159 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 7):
I would imagine the aircraft to be ferried to Sydney a week prior to entry into service...

Any information whether it will go to TLS first off, for a thorough check by Airbus as we previously discussed ?



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28109 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 11):
Any information whether it will go to TLS first off, for a thorough check by Airbus as we previously discussed ?

Will post any updates... The re-entry to service is the only information at the moment...

EK413



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User currently offlinevhtje From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28077 times:
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Quoting qf002 (Reply 6):
QF received a compensation settlement from Rolls Royce, which was included in the FY10-11 reports. The total amount was never disclosed (IIRC), but it was said to be $80-100million

I hate adding a "friend said"-type post, but I do actually know someone high up at RR. He openly told me when I asked that the figure was £52 million (whatever that translates to AUD).


User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28020 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
The extra 150-odd seats in the A380 could probably only have generated an extra $50-70million or so in additional revenue (max) over 18 months

Do you happen to know on which basis this figure is calculated? The difference between 150 seats on one long haul per calender day at full fares, and what they would have really earned [number of seats x actual fares] should be vast.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 27943 times:

Quoting vhtje (Reply 13):
He openly told me when I asked that the figure was £52 million (whatever that translates to AUD).

Calculates to the sum of AUD$79,951,975.35...

EK413



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User currently offlineMilesDependent From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 27650 times:

Am guessing they won't advise pax they are the the first flight back in service for this aircraft !!

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27560 times:

Here's latest picture taken on February 24, 2012 in Singapore Changi Airport http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxunterwegs/6823753056/

EK413



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27267 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 11):
Any information whether it will go to TLS first off, for a thorough check by Airbus as we previously discussed ?
This article was raised on another thread a few weeks ago:

"Mr Milne said the aircraft would undergo a series of flight tests in the city-state before being brought back into service."

I very much doubt a trip to TLS is in order...

Quoting something (Reply 14):
Do you happen to know on which basis this figure is calculated? The difference between 150 seats on one long haul per calender day at full fares, and what they would have really earned [number of seats x actual fares] should be vast.

That was a very bad and rough figure that I just hastily calculated on my phone... I based this on the assumption that 90% of the additional seats would have been filled on average (generous figure IMO), and that the aircraft would have flown around 250 flights a year (given that LHR and LAX rotations are notoriously poor for QF's utilisation, and factoring in maintenance and all that usual stuff).

Given that the vast majority of that seat increase is in Y (F seat count is the same across both, and W is very similar. The J increase would have been 6-20 seats), I then took a rough estimation at around $1300 revenue per seat (assuming an average Y fare of $1000 and an average J fare of $5000) and did the basic calculation... These are all extremely generous figures (once you consider the taxes that get taken out of the quoted cost). It helps that QF tends to charge pretty similar fares to both LHR and LAX.

It's dodgy, I know. But this is pretty much the best case scenario that QF could have argued for in negotiations -- this is why I used the word max...


User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 26999 times:

Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
Just delighted to inform everyone the return to service of Qantas' 1st A380 'Nancy Bird' VH-OQA scheduled to operate QF127 on the 28th of April...

For one second I've been dreaming you'd announce the re-enter into service of a 747... There I'd be delighted!  



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User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 26305 times:

That incident, embarrassing for RR as it was, was also a great example of the strength and ability of the A380 airframe.

It will be great to have it back in service after all this time and I'm sure a great relief to passengers on long haul routes which were served by this aircraft.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24055 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 18):

The aircraft is only scheduled for the one rotation SYD-HKG-SYD... Take it QF is taking a safe approach to the re-entry to service...

Nevertheless, great to see her back!

EK413



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User currently offlineQFVHOQA From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23636 times:

I'm glad Nancy is almost ready to be back in service. I hope to fly on her for my SYD-HKG flight in June.

I wonder if she will be mainly flying the HKG route to start with? Ease her back into service?


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23553 times:

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 22):
I wonder if she will be mainly flying the HKG route to start with? Ease her back into service?

In previous threads it's been mention she would probably be restricted to the HKG route but I highly doubt this would be the case... QF is more than likely taking the safe approach easing her in on the one route...

EK413



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 23121 times:

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 22):

QFA0127/28APR126    SYD  - HKG
QFA0128/28APR126    HKG  - SYD
QFA0011/29APR127    SYD  - LAX
QFA0094/30APR127    LAX  - MEL
QFA0009/01MAY122    MEL  - SIN
                                    SIN  - LHR
QFA0010/02MAY123    LHR  - SIN
                                    SIN  - MEL
QFA0093/03MAY125    MEL  - LAX
QFA0012/05MAY125    LAX  - SYD

Scheduling update, appears she's making up for lost time in the air...

EK413



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User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21839 times:

This is all dependent on nothing untoward being picked up on the rejected take off planned for 14 April, and flight tests planned for 15/16 and 18/19 April.

pAnmAn


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 21499 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 24):
Scheduling update, appears she's making up for lost time in the air...

Thanks for the update... She's obviously being made to prove herself   No doubt all these flights will be important in gauging the real-world performance of the repairs.

Quoting Panman (Reply 25):
rejected take off planned for 14 April, and flight tests planned for 15/16 and 18/19 April.

Thanks for those dates   Looking forward to seeing the photos here!!


User currently offline4tet From Spain, joined Sep 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 21987 times:

A compensation of 'clean' $80M - $100M ( without risk, without any management fees, maintenance or whatever ) for the 1.5 years of lost revenue just doesn't make sense to me, at all.

Considering that the price of a new aircraft is around $350M, it would mean that in 4-something years they would have their investment 100% back ( In a fast way of calculating things, obviously ) that's a ROI of 20% - 25% aprox. which it is simply incredible for a 'industrial' business...

That means QANTAS should be making lots of profits every year, and not just $250M (as per wiki)...

R.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21945 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 26):

The scheduling certainly proves the aircraft wont be restricted to HKG and the repairs haven't effected the aircrafts efficiency...

EK413



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User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21811 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):
Would this really be enough to properly compensate QF for the loss of revenue and service?

I don't see why not. The frame itself is only worth around $200mil-$400mil. I can't imagine it pays for itself every 4 years. QF can relatively easily provide the lift with the remaining fleet.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 21852 times:

Quoting 4tet (Reply 27):
A compensation of 'clean' $80M - $100M ( without risk, without any management fees, maintenance or whatever ) for the 1.5 years of lost revenue just doesn't make sense to me, at all.

Considering that the price of a new aircraft is around $350M, it would mean that in 4-something years they would have their investment 100% back ( In a fast way of calculating things, obviously ) that's a ROI of 20% - 25% aprox. which it is simply incredible for a 'industrial' business...

That means QANTAS should be making lots of profits every year, and not just $250M (as per wiki)...

Don't forget the damage to the brand that has occurred, the cost of hotels/alternative flights for passengers affected, pax compensation where necessary etc. That would have all been a part of this payout, and could have totaled several million given the plane was nearly full. (450 pax at $2000 costs each is already almost $1million).

I'm certainly not suggesting that QF makes $50mil a year per A380, but rather that the cost of having this aircraft out of service could be as much as $50mil a year... This doesn't necessarily mean that they are making any money off their A380 fleet, but having this aircraft out of service might have contributed a significant amount to the losses that these flights make. It's often said that the A380 is the difference between making and loosing money for QF in some cases.

As an aside -- profit before tax was over $500million last year -- all the figures I'm referring to obviously occur prior to the deduction due to tax  
Quoting EK413 (Reply 28):
The scheduling certainly proves the aircraft wont be restricted to HKG and the repairs haven't effected the aircrafts efficiency...

As some of us always argued  


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 21764 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 30):

Yes, many of us argued she would've been "weight restricted"...

EK413



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User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 20974 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 31):
Yes, many of us argued she would've been "weight restricted"...

She will be. Just not very much.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 20914 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 32):

Weight restricted was the wrong term... Restricted to operate the SYD-HKG sectors...

Even if the aircraft is weight restricted how many seats are to be blocked?

EK413



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User currently offlinerendezvous From New Zealand, joined May 2001, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 20737 times:

How many parts have been repaired compared to replaced? If parts are simply replaced there shouldn't be much difference in weight.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20750 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 32):
Quoting rendezvous (Reply 34):

I don't have the details on parts repaired vs parts replaced... I've read the aircraft would weigh an extra 200kg which certainly isn't a lot...

EK413



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20610 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 35):
I don't have the details on parts repaired vs parts replaced... I've read the aircraft would weigh an extra 200kg which certainly isn't a lot...

The extra weight is said to come from the reinforcement of the new skin over the damaged areas and that sort of thing. It's really not much extra, and will be a matter of km's in terms of range.


User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1292 posts, RR: 52
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 20122 times:
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Quoting qf002 (Reply 30):
Don't forget the damage to the brand that has occurred,

What damage? QF and the crew did a wonderful job. Damage to RR maybe,



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 19964 times:

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 37):
What damage? QF and the crew did a wonderful job. Damage to RR maybe,

Did you see the Australian media in the days after the incident?

Even throughout December 2010 and 2011, any media report about QF was opened with the line "In a year when QF has been locked into intense battles with unions over pay and conditions, and has been fighting the danger of constantly exploding aircraft..." (slight exageration on my part)...

QF took a beating in the press, and when combined with the rest of 2011, the media did a nice job of blowing the whole thing out of proportion...

Long term damage -- really not that serious. Short term damage -- pretty bad (ie the old "I'll never fly QF again" over and over).


User currently offlinen471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1490 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 19880 times:
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From ATW Daily News........

The Qantas (QF) Airbus A380 that has been stranded in Singapore since the uncontained engine failure Nov. 4, 2010 will return to service in May (ATW Daily News, Nov. 5, 2010).

QF CEO Alan Joyce told ATW in Berlin last week that repair costs will be around AUD150 million ($156.9 million). “It is probably the biggest repair [that has been] done on an aircraft, as well as the biggest insurance claim on an aircraft,” Joyce said.


User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 679 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 19599 times:

Quoting n471wn (Reply 39):
QF CEO Alan Joyce told ATW in Berlin last week that repair costs will be around AUD150 million ($156.9 million). “It is probably the biggest repair [that has been] done on an aircraft, as well as the biggest insurance claim on an aircraft,” Joyce said.

If that is a true number, it is a very, very big number. Wonder if the reporter got it right, and if he did, wonder if Joyce was including the lost revenues or profits and other costs associated with the event as well.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 19495 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 38):

& not to mention how every single minor incident involving QF was blown out of proportion including the B744 engine failures...

EK413



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User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 2807 posts, RR: 20
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 19252 times:

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 40):
If that is a true number, it is a very, very big number. Wonder if the reporter got it right, and if he did, wonder if Joyce was including the lost revenues or profits and other costs associated with the event as well.

That's been the quoted price to repair the aircraft and get it back into service for a while now. ANd no it doesn't include lost profits and other costs but it likely does include the flight testing that would need to be done to bring the aircraft back into service and the interior refresh.

Either way this is good news for Qantas. They need all 12 A380's operating in the fleet now that 744 retirements are being accelerated. The only thing now is going to be watching the A380 wing cracking to make sure that is properly fixed by Airbus.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4691 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 19309 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 41):
not to mention how every single minor incident involving QF was blown out of proportion including the B744 engine failures...

Some of what the Australian media spew about Qantas is simply disgusting. It starts with "200 passengers feared for their lives when their flight had to abort landing at Melbourne on Monday" and goes down hill very fast.

Never read anything about a DJ go-around though...



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19153 times:

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 40):
If that is a true number, it is a very, very big number. Wonder if the reporter got it right, and if he did, wonder if Joyce was including the lost revenues or profits and other costs associated with the event as well.

He got the date of return to service wrong (given the current information), so I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. I could see it being that high, but we don't know what the reporter (or AJ) have included in that figure.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 41):
& not to mention how every single minor incident involving QF was blown out of proportion including the B744 engine failures...

  


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 18961 times:

Quoting n471wn (Reply 39):
The Qantas (QF) Airbus A380 that has been stranded in Singapore since the uncontained engine failure Nov. 4, 2010 will return to service in May (ATW Daily News, Nov. 5, 2010).

My reliable source of information yet again gets it right  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 43):

Wow there was problems with the engines (0:48 seconds) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Tsl2hl5MM

You got to love it when they interview the passengers...

EK413



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4691 posts, RR: 4
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 18948 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 45):
Wow there was problems with the engines (0:48 seconds) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Tsl2hl5MM

You got to love it when they interview the passengers...

"We were told that there was a problem with one of the engines on the left hand side of the plane, so the plane turned round, discharged the fuel, circled around Bangkok, and eventually landed. Then we sat on the runway for half an hour or so, and then we were told to get off the plane".

Well I do hope they were offered counseling  

The worst part though is the quality of the journalism. The harrowing story recounted above was led in with the reporter saying "Another passenger said he was advised to leave the plane due to a failed engine"...

I am however impressed that they managed to not mention Nancy Bird until the end of the story when, you guessed it! "A mid-air engine explosion in a Qantas A380 last year ... shook confidence in the carrier"   



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 47, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18132 times:

A little birdie whispered in my ear and I can confirm Nancy Bird will return to revenue service on the 21st of April... no brainer as to which flight number she will operate from SIN  

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 48, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 17637 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 47):

A little birdie whispered in my ear and I can confirm Nancy Bird will return to revenue service on the 21st of April... no brainer as to which flight number she will operate from SIN  

I was under the impression that she was being ferried back to SYD before returning to revenue service. It would make sense for her to come back into SYD a few days before returning to service, but I highly doubt she will be operating her first service out of SIN. It would screw up the rotations of other aircraft, and is the first longer range fight test planned...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 17668 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 48):
I was under the impression that she was being ferried back to SYD before returning to revenue service. It would make sense for her to come back into SYD a few days before returning to service, but I highly doubt she will be operating her first service out of SIN. It would screw up the rotations of other aircraft, and is the first longer range fight test planned...

 

Well let's just say she will complete the last leg of the LHR-SIN-SYD service which has since been dropped and renumbered QF002...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 50, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 17633 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 48):

Okay, she will operate a ferry service to SYD however she will operate to SYD under the flight number QF0032...

I've requested the title reflect this "Qantas A380 VH-OQA Nancy Bird to operate QF32 04/21"

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 51, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 17453 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 49):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 50):

I'm confused now... Is the flight planned for April 21st a passenger flight or ferry flight?? If this is a ferry flight then the aircraft isn't really returning to service until the date of her first passenger service (which as far as I can tell is still April 28th).

Changing the title to include QF32 will be very confusing, and will suggest that she is operating a passenger flight on April 21st... In fact, I'd suggest the title be reverted back to reflect her return to passenger service on the 28th.

From what can tell, the QF32 number is just a symbolic marketing ploy on QF's part ("completing the flight she never finished" blah blah blah)...


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Reply 52, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17218 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 51):

Yes the flight will be a "ferry" flight operating as QF32 with Mr AJ and Exec. onboard the flight...

I just found it to be a clever move to utilize the QF32 call sign as opposed to a QF6000 flight number...

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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4691 posts, RR: 4
Reply 53, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17043 times:

Wasn't she QF32 when she went all firecrackers? If so then that's a nice touch, I guess...


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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 54, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16934 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 52):
Yes the flight will be a "ferry" flight operating as QF32 with Mr AJ and Exec. onboard the flight...

I just found it to be a clever move to utilize the QF32 call sign as opposed to a QF6000 flight number...

Now I understand!! I agree its a nice touch, if a little corny!  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 53):
Wasn't she QF32 when she went all firecrackers? If so then that's a nice touch, I guess...

Yup it's a PR thing... I guess this confirms that they're intending to make a big deal out of this rather than slipping her back into service with minimal fuss...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 55, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16921 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 53):

That's correct the flight Nancy Bird was operating at time of the incident which grounded her was the QF32 and as

Quoting qf002 (Reply 51):

this will be a ferry flight and not a revenue service...

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User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16822 times:

So what will be the change to the schedule? SYD-HKG going daily A380? Or perhaps they will rotate aircraft out of service for maintenance?

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 57, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 16792 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 54):

Didn't mean to confuse anyone  
Quoting thegeek (Reply 57):

With 12 active A380s this will allow for maintenance checks without the need for downgrades on the current A380 routes.

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 58, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 16601 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 57):

So what will be the change to the schedule? SYD-HKG going daily A380? Or perhaps they will rotate aircraft out of service for maintenance?

I guess that she will allow for the ongoing maintenance to continue without affecting QF11 flights for the next few months while the cracking issues are being resolved... Taking QF127 to daily towards the end of the year make sense to me, and then another Asian destination could potentially be opened up less than daily, or even JNB at 2-3 times a week.

Alternatively, HKG could end and QF could do something with DFW (continuing via BNE) or FRA or BNE-LAX... Given how well HKG is said to be doing, and the amount of money that they have spent promoting the service in Hong Kong, I doubt that it's a short term strategy.


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Reply 59, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 16514 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 54):

QF32 VHOQA scheduled to depart Singapore 21/04 23:30 estimated to arrive Sydney 22/04 9:20...

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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2607 posts, RR: 25
Reply 60, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15589 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 59):
QF32 VHOQA scheduled to depart Singapore 21/04 23:30 estimated to arrive Sydney 22/04 9:20...

The ferry flight taking place in less than one week I assume they will make some test flights before (taxiing tests, RTO, "second FF", maybe more?). Any spotters out there in Singapore to take some pictures?

This was the real FF on January 25th 2008.

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Reply 61, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15568 times:

Quoting Panman (Reply 25):
This is all dependent on nothing untoward being picked up on the rejected take off planned for 14 April, and flight tests planned for 15/16 and 18/19 April.
Quoting N14AZ (Reply 60):
The ferry flight taking place in less than one week I assume they will make some test flights before (taxiing tests, RTO, "second FF", maybe more?). Any spotters out there in Singapore to take some pictures?

She will under go testing commencing tomorrow 14/04 and as quoted flight tests planned for 15/16/17 and 18th of April...

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User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15558 times:

are QF being very low key with its re-entry into service in case people freak out when they find out they're on OQA??? it's not exactly something they will be publicising big time.


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2607 posts, RR: 25
Reply 63, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15563 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 61):
She will under go testing commencing tomorrow 14/04 and as quoted flight tests planned for 15/16/17 and 18th of April...
Quoting EK413 (Reply 61):
Quoting Panman (Reply 25):
This is all dependent on nothing untoward being picked up on the rejected take off planned for 14 April, and flight tests planned for 15/16 and 18/19 April.
Quoting N14AZ (Reply 60):
The ferry flight taking place in less than one week I assume they will make some test flights before (taxiing tests, RTO, "second FF", maybe more?). Any spotters out there in Singapore to take some pictures?

She will under go testing commencing tomorrow 14/04 and as quoted flight tests planned for 15/16/17 and 18th of April...

Ooops, thank you for the information. Sometimes it's better to read all the posts and not only the last one   

If I understand Panman correctly there will be two test flights 15/16 April and 18/19 April. Four test flights would suprise me.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 64, posted (2 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15473 times:

Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Reply 62):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 52):


PR appearance is planned with the aircraft operating the ferry flight under the call sign QF32...

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User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15387 times:

Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Reply 62):
are QF being very low key with its re-entry into service in case people freak out when they find out they're on OQA??? it's not exactly something they will be publicising big time.

I would think they are trying to push look how safe our aircraft's are.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 66, posted (2 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 15213 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 65):

AJ will be onboard the aircraft... Similar to the reentry to service of VH-OJH...

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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15161 times:

Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Reply 62):
are QF being very low key with its re-entry into service in case people freak out when they find out they're on OQA??? it's not exactly something they will be publicising big time.

The same thing happened with OJH back in '99 when it ran off the runway at the old BKK. There were heaps of calls from passengers wanting to make sure they weren't on OJH and demanded they were not to travel on OJH. I'm sure it will happen again.



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Reply 68, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15141 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 67):

VH-OJH has been one of the most reliable aircraft amongst the QF B744 fleet since the incident...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 69, posted (2 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 14819 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 63):

First test today as QF6001 06:50...

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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 70, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14491 times:

Today's test by VH-OQA was a non-air test ... she powered up around 0920hrs and taxied around Singapore Changi Airport on its own power until around 1035hrs.

It was good to see Nancy Bird on her own power again.

KC Sim


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Reply 71, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14426 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 70):

Regardless, she showed up on the flight schedule  

Btw, any photos...???

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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14351 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 68):
OJH has been one of the most reliable aircraft amongst the QF B744 fleet

Agreed. I flew on OJH a couple of times to LAX out of BNE, once I was travelling with a mate and while walking down the aerobridge, I told my mate that this was the plane in the BKK incident. Behind me, a passenger noted that if they knew it was that aircraft, they would not have got on the flight. It was a beautiful smooth ride all the way to LAX. Unfortunately I didn't see that person upon disembarking from LAX, wish I did, I would have asked her how her flight was  



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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14301 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 70):

Thanks for the info. Can't wait until Nancy has has flight tests



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 74, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14294 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 70):

Nice -- thank you!! I agree with ZuluAlpha, can't wait to see her in the sky again  


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 75, posted (2 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14251 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 72):

I've been lucky enough to travel on her on a trip to BKK... 
Quoting qf002 (Reply 74):

Totally agree!

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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 76, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13923 times:

VH-OQA took off from SIN this morning at 0734hrs and returned from her test flight at 1137hrs. This was the first flight of VH-OQA since her emergency landing.

Outwardly, it all appears to have gone fine ... in fact, she rotated rather early on her take off roll and climbed steeply before making a very early right turn.

KC Sim


User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 898 posts, RR: 2
Reply 77, posted (2 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14044 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 70):
Today's test by VH-OQA was a non-air test ... she powered up around 0920hrs and taxied around Singapore Changi Airport on its own power until around 1035hrs
Quoting aviasian (Reply 76):
VH-OQA took off from SIN this morning at 0734hrs and returned from her test flight at 1137hrs. This was the first flight of VH-OQA since her emergency landing

Very much appreciate your up to date reports, please keep them coming, there are a lot of us in Oz waiting with much anticipation the return of this ac to its home shores. If all is successful it will be the longest (in duration) QFA 032 flight in history.



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User currently offlineblackwidow From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (2 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13971 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 76):
VH-OQA took off from SIN this morning at 0734hrs

- That’s great news to see her fly again and tribute to craftsmanship in all those who have repaired her over the past 18 months... (now, where's the bill......)


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 79, posted (2 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13897 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 76):

Wonderful news indeed...

Back where she belongs in the air  

Well done to the Airbus and QF crew which spent months away from their loved ones while working around the clock repairing our Nancy Bird...

Keep the updates coming and not asking to much probably a few photos  

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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4096 posts, RR: 90
Reply 80, posted (2 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13900 times:
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Quoting aviasian (Reply 76):
VH-OQA took off from SIN this morning at 0734hrs and returned from her test flight at 1137hrs. This was the first flight of VH-OQA since her emergency landing.

And here is a shot of her departing on that flight


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 81, posted (2 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13555 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 80):

You beauty!

Can't wait for her welcome home party...

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User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (2 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12812 times:

Why's it have to come back to SYD? Operating in service to LHR from SIN makes operational sense to me as it should require one less crew to position for the A380, and will also mean a 744 crew which would have done a deadhead will be operating the ferry flight, taking the 744 out of service at SIN.

I guess that would significantly increase the visibility that the passengers are boarding VH-OQA in SIN though.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 83, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12680 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 82):

I'm baffled by your comments...?

The aircraft will return to Sydney on the 21st of April and under go maintenance checks prior to re-entering revenue service on the 28th of April operating the QF127...

Nancy Bird has clearly demonstrated she is a fighter and screams I wanna return to serve the flying kangaroo  

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 84, posted (2 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12616 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 82):

Putting her into service out of SIN will just screw up the rotations of other frames. An aircraft will have to position back to Australia in any possible scenario (unless they start cancelling flights), and it makes sense for the QF engineering team to do a once over the whole thing before she takes on passengers.

They might also want to test performance in/out of SYD, and of course there are the PR opportunities...


User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12503 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 84):
Putting her into service out of SIN will just screw up the rotations of other frames. An aircraft will have to position back to Australia in any possible scenario (unless they start cancelling flights), and it makes sense for the QF engineering team to do a once over the whole thing before she takes on passengers.

They might also want to test performance in/out of SYD, and of course there are the PR opportunities...

Or maybe paint her in a nice new Aboriginal Paint scheme? One could only dream...

I realise it won't happen, I don't think they paint in SYD anyway


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 86, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12534 times:

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 85):
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace...ges/28168/wunala-dreaming-a380.jpg

Wishful thinking 

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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12435 times:

I have found out that there appears to be another test flight on 18th April. I have sourced information that the flight number will be QF6001 departing SIN at 1750hrs to return at 1950hrs.

On the issue if the CEO will be on the return flight into SYD. Has there been any talk if Captian Richard Champion de Crespigny who managed to return 'Nancy' back to SIN after the incident will also fly 'Nancy' back to SYD?



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User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12381 times:

Anyone know who is doing the test flights? Airbus people or QF pilots?

User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12359 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 86):
Wishful thinking 

Nice, but the Blue scheme would look even better IMHO  


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 90, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12327 times:

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 85):
Or maybe paint her in a nice new Aboriginal Paint scheme? One could only dream...

Haha we can dream!! The frame being rolled out this year is more likely to be an A333 though IMO.


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Reply 91, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12132 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 87):

With the aircraft completing the last leg of the QF032 I wouldn't be surprised to see all crew involved to be operating the ferry flight...

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 88):

More than likely both QF and Airbus crew...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 92, posted (2 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11864 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 87):

There was a flight test scheduled for today 17/04 but rescheduled for the 18/04...

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User currently offlinecwalt2 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (2 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11732 times:

Captian Richard Champion de Crespigny and Captain Dave Evans will be onboard Nancy-Bird for the ferry flight from Singapore to Sydney on Sat night, but will not be operating the aircraft.

User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 94, posted (2 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11696 times:

Glad to hear that Captains de Crespigny and Evans will be onboard the ferry flight back to Sydney ... the arrival ceremony at Kingsford-Smith Airport will be a fitting occasion to honour them once again (along with all the other cockpit and cabin crew members) for their professionalism immediately following the uncontained engine failure in November 2010.

Somehow, I find myself wishing that Qantas will do something to the livery of VH-OQA to reflect the heroism and professionalism of these amazing Qantas staffers.

Thank goodness the next test flight is rescheduled to 18 April ... the weather today is dismal.

KC Sim


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Reply 95, posted (2 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11568 times:

Quoting cwalt2 (Reply 93):

Along with Mr AJ and probably media onboard...

Quoting aviasian (Reply 94):

The crew onboard that particular flight certainly performed above and beyond... not discrediting crew in general as this is part of there duties...

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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 96, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11171 times:

A second test flight was conducted today (18 Apr) lasting 56 minutes. It took off as QF6001 at 1830hrs (originally scheduled to depart at 1750hrs) and returned to SIN at 1926hrs (originally scheduled to arrive at 1950hrs).

This test flight is somewhat shorter than half of what was originally planned.

Three days to its scheduled flight home to Sydney ...

KC Sim


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Reply 97, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11109 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 96):
This test flight is somewhat shorter than half of what was originally planned.

Probably the crew feel comfortable with 'Nancy Bird' resulting in a shorter test flight...

Cheers for the update...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 98, posted (2 years 6 hours ago) and read 10516 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 96):

Appears the test flights have been successful with no further testing scheduled...

Nancy Bird is scheduled to depart Singapore 21/04 23:30 estimated to arrive Sydney 22/04 9:20...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 99, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10047 times:

MEDIA HEADS UP: VH-OQA Nancy-Bird Walton due to return to the skies Saturday 21 April - At 2330 on Saturday 21 April VH-OQA Nancy-Bird Walton will depart Singapore on a ferry flight to Sydney, arriving in Sydney at 0900 on Sunday 22 April. This will be OQA's first flight since QF32 (Singapore-Sydney) on 4 November 2010, when it experienced an uncontained engine failure that caused extensive damage to its airframe and systems. It will resume commercial service on 28 April, operating QF127 from Sydney to Hong Kong. There is a large media contingent onboard the ferry flight so keep an eye out for news over the weekend.

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 100, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9342 times:

Less than 45 minutes till she finally departs SIN arriving in SYD at 9:20am...

Look forward to her welcome home ceremony.... I'll certainly be there to greet her...

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 101, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9222 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 100):

Have fun!!  

Is the schedule you shared in Reply 24 still current? I've been meaning to drive out to the airport for a few hours spotting anyway so might try to snatch a look at her coming in or going out.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 102, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9055 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 101):

Certainly is so i hope we have plenty of spotters out there today...

Have checked flight tracker and appears QF32 departed the gate 5 minutes behind schedule however aircraft is estimated to arrive 30 minutes ahead of schedule at 08:50... Arrivals this morning currently on 34R/L...

Nancy Bird has been tracked flying over Condobolin New South Wales 43,000 feet...

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User currently offlinehotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 102):
Have checked flight tracker and appears QF32 departed the gate 5 minutes behind schedule

Tech problem?



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 104, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8963 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 103):

More than likely a last minute tech crew check no indications for the slight delay...

SYD is heavily covered in FOG this morning so we can expect an arrival delay...

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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 105, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8794 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 104):

SYD is heavily covered in FOG this morning so we can expect an arrival delay...

It's holding over Crookwell ATM, so you can definitely expect an arrival delay if not a diversion.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 106, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8750 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 105):

Arrivals switched to 16R/L...

She's exited her holding pattern and commenced her approach pattern.. Currently at 15,000ft over Picton...

QF24 just touchdown...QF32 currently over North Ryde 2,900ft

TOUCH DOWN!

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User currently offlineMilesDependent From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8759 times:

On its way now. Looking forward to her flying past my balcony soon. Out here with my coffee ready to say hello  

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Reply 108, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

There she is!!! On short final.

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Reply 109, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8709 times:

And she's down! Welcome home!  


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 110, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8607 times:

Nice smooth touchdown... All traffic on the ground came to a stand still... she received a water cannon salute while entering her apron...

Welcome home Nancy Bird  

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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 111, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Awesome! She's the one and only 380 I've flown on. Flew her LAX-SYD when she was just a month old back in 11/2008.


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 112, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8156 times:

A few spotters this morning so we can expect to see snap shots of her arrival...

EK413



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User currently offlineaussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1731 posts, RR: 9
Reply 113, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7605 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Ive attached two images of VH-OQA arrival in Sydney,Certainly were'nt the best conditions for photography due to how thick the fog was this morning.




Cheers Mark


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7467 times:

Quoting aussie18 (Reply 113):

Awesome, thank you! She looks like she needs a bit of a bath...


User currently offlineaussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1731 posts, RR: 9
Reply 115, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7449 times:
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Quoting qf002 (Reply 114):

She definitely needs a wash and believe it will get a bath before its first flight to Hong Kong next weekend.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 116, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7276 times:

Quoting aussie18 (Reply 113):

Thank you very much... I might of bumped into you this morning...  
Quoting qf002 (Reply 114):

She operates another test flight tomorrow QF6001...

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 117, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7147 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHkDCi9jnU

EK413



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 679 posts, RR: 1
Reply 118, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 6906 times:

Quoting aussie18 (Reply 115):
She definitely needs a wash and believe it will get a bath before its first flight to Hong Kong next weekend.

Can I wish for a repaint? In some other paint scheme... that only QF can do!


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 119, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 6865 times:

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 118):
Can I wish for a repaint? In some other paint scheme... that only QF can do!

We can all wish! But they don't paint planes in SYD, so very unlikely any time soon!


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 120, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 119):

Wishful thinking indeed... QF is getting her back to carrying out her flying duties what she does best!

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User currently offlinepsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6389 times:

Viewing now on http://www.flighttracker.gleff.com/# QFA6001 A380 VH-OQA arriving back into Sydney.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 122, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

Quoting aussie18 (Reply 115):

Any indications why Nancy didn't take a bath in SIN prior to her delivery flight... hmmm...

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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 123, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5998 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 122):
Any indications why Nancy didn't take a bath in SIN prior to her delivery flight... hmmm...

Cheaper to do it here? A bath isn't something I imagine the insurance company would have covered, so they might as well save a bit of money and do it in house.


User currently offlineskyhawkmatthew From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 122):

I believe she got a wash a few days prior in SIN, but was subsequently parked outside in the rain.



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3613 posts, RR: 11
Reply 125, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5882 times:

It's really good to see her flying again.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 114):
She looks like she needs a bit of a bath...

Why?

*signed, AF ops manager*



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 126, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5822 times:

*signed, AF ops manager*

     


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 127, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 125):
*signed, AF ops manager*

          

Just curious if the aircraf received a new coat of paint considering the aircraft was sprayed with debris from uncontained engine failure...

EK413

[Edited 2012-04-23 01:10:17]


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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 128, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 124):

No that is not correct. Nancy-Bird Walton never got that scrub-down before or after her test flights ... I don't think she got any bath since the incident on 4 Nov 2010. If you look closely, you could see the little rectangles on the fuselage that might be indicative of where work has been performed.

Good to see that she is safely back home and getting lots of love. Hopefully she felt the love too when she was here in Singapore on her extended stay. It probably was a cost-saving move to deny her that bath in Singapore ... if volunteers were needed, I am certain many of the aviation enthusiasts in Singapore would have given our time and effort to make her look spanking clean.

Hopefully QF now gives her a good cleaning and send her off to work again in a pristine condition.

KC Sim


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 129, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day ago) and read 4961 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 128):

Only if she was still alive today to witness the aircrafts return to sydney...

Certainly is good to see her back home resting in hangar 96 under going further checks and take a bath prior to her first flight this week as the QF127...

EK413



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User currently onlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1535 posts, RR: 7
Reply 130, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 4506 times:

According to FlightGlobal only 94kgs were added by the repairs, instead of the earlier reported 200kgs. That's pretty awesome!  

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-than-expected-to-aircraft-371025/

"Repairs to the Qantas Airways Airbus A380 that had an uncontained engine failure in November 2010 added only 94kg to the weight of the aircraft.

This was far less than originally anticipated, says Airbus, with the airframer and Australia's flag carrier agreeing at the start of the project that the "weight impact" of the repairs would not exceed 250kg.

Earlier reports by Flightglobal Pro had put the additional weight at 200kg, but Airbus clarifies that the actual weight added to the aircraft was far less at 94kg."



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4599 posts, RR: 24
Reply 131, posted (1 year 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 130):

"Repairs to the Qantas Airways Airbus A380 that had an uncontained engine failure in November 2010 added only 94kg to the weight of the aircraft.

So one passenger, based on the theory that each passenger is calculated at 100kg each (passenger and bag). That's a great result!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 132, posted (1 year 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 130):

Wonderful result considering many quoted she would've been the odd one in the QF fleet...

EK413



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