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Southwest 737 At ORD Tonight, 3-31  
User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7349 times:

I arrived at ORD tonight on AA 2364 a little before 7pm CT. The plane landed on Runday 10, and the pilots did what seemed like hard breaking. When we cleared the runway, I saw why. A Southwest 737 was sitting on Taxiway M, east of where Runway 32L used to cross M, facing to the east, with emergency vehicles parked both ahead and behind the aircraft.

So, why was the Southwest plane on the ground at ORD? Was this an MDW departure that had a problem and landed at ORD, rather than return to MDW? Or was this a diversion?

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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1984 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7246 times:

Quoting ckfred (Thread starter):
Was this an MDW departure that had a problem and landed at ORD,

That's correct. It was a MDW outbound flt that had to divert to ORD for MX reasons.



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User currently offlineSwafa From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

Was supposed to land at MDW. Apparently had some sort of flap malfunction. Overheard some pilots talking on the employee lot bus.

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6917 times:
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The "out of service list shows a slat indication problem". Not a big deal, with the NG's it is almost always a switch problem, not actually a problem with the slat.

Did you know that almost all 99.9999999% of all cockpit fault indications are due to bad switches, Not an actual failed component? Flight crews can tell if a slat or spoiler is hanging out...This one must have been felt for them to divert. Slat actuators do fail/lock. It is the nature of all actuators. It is not a safety of flight as far as airworthiness but you don't want to fly with a slat hanging out. JMO. of course


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6495 times:

Still interesting that ORD was chosen vs. MKE.


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User currently offlinejohnmke From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6296 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 4):
Still interesting that ORD was chosen vs. MKE.

lets see fly 67 miles north to MKE, when they already to aviod the 15 mile flight south BACK to MDW. Something tells me that the pilots didn't think interesting they thought get this plane on the ground safely and as soon as possible.
ORD longer runway, more activity=more fire/emergancy response. I'll take ORD.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6152 times:

Quoting johnmke (Reply 5):
Something tells me that the pilots didn't think interesting they thought get this plane on the ground safely and as soon as possible.
ORD longer runway, more activity=more fire/emergancy response. I'll take ORD.

I doubt it's even that; Southwest has line maintenance at MDW, so fixing the problem involves maintenance staff driving across town to ORD rather than the extra 75 miles up to MKE. But you can bet they went into ORD vs. MDW for the longer runway, of course.


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6036 times:

Quoting johnmke (Reply 5):
ets see fly 67 miles north to MKE, when they already to aviod the 15 mile flight south BACK to MDW. Something tells me that the pilots didn't think interesting they thought get this plane on the ground safely and as soon as possible.
ORD longer runway, more activity=more fire/emergancy response. I'll take ORD.
Quoting ScottB (Reply 6):
I doubt it's even that; Southwest has line maintenance at MDW, so fixing the problem involves maintenance staff driving across town to ORD rather than the extra 75 miles up to MKE. But you can bet they went into ORD vs. MDW for the longer runway, of course.

If this was a slat issue odds are they needed a longer runway. This could be why they did not go back to MDW.

As far as ORD vs MKE, I only mentioned that because WN has resources at MKE and not at ORD. If it was truly a slat issue, the 12 minute hop to MKE would not have made a difference but would have saved time and money.



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

What was the flight number? I looked on Flightaware and couldn't find an WN flight number showing as having arrived at ORD.

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 3):
It is not a safety of flight as far as airworthiness but you don't want to fly with a slat hanging out.

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User currently offlineTHEBATMAN From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5429 times:
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Quoting b757capt (Reply 4):
Still interesting that ORD was chosen vs. MKE.

The longest runway at MKE is 1/19 at 9,690' while 10/28 at ORD is 13,000'. That is the reason they go into ORD. It's not the first time, and probably won't be the last. WN has used our hangars for engine changes, flight control problems, etc...



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23305 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 7):
I only mentioned that because WN has resources at MKE and not at ORD.

Right, but WN has far more m/x resources at MDW than at ORD, and if MDW m/x was going to have to drive to "rescue" the airplane, it's a much shorter drive to ORD.



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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2039 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4465 times:
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):
Right, but WN has far more m/x resources at MDW than at ORD, and if MDW m/x was going to have to drive to "rescue" the airplane, it's a much shorter drive to ORD.

Not to mention presumably busing the passengers back to Midway.


User currently offlinevatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

Quoting syncmaster (Reply 12):
Not to mention presumably busing the passengers back to Midway.

Would that be easier than ferrying a 737 to ORD to pick them up and continue on? If it was a full flight it would take a few buses to get everyone back across town.



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User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 8):
What was the flight number? I looked on Flightaware and couldn't find an WN flight number showing as having arrived at ORD.

Don't know if this is it, but it's the only SWA flight involving ORD I can find: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...4/history/20120331/2322Z/KORD/KMDW



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3006 times:
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Quoting chrisair (Reply 9):
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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2039 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2875 times:
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Quoting vatveng (Reply 13):
Would that be easier than ferrying a 737 to ORD to pick them up and continue on? If it was a full flight it would take a few buses to get everyone back across town.

Depending on the loads I would imagine that is correct. It is probably easier to compensate them and/or rebook them on the next available flight.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 6):

And it helps that AMR and UAL both have large maintenance bases



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2640 times:

If you look at Flightaware for the flight from CMH to MDW, the flight track shows the flight in the MDW arrival pattern from the southwest. Then, it climbs on the approach, turns to the west, and then gets into the ORD pattern for Runway 10.

It looks like the plane landed around 5:53pm CT. I was on AA2364 that landed at 6:49pm. At that time, there were still emergency vehicles parked well behind and ahead of the aircraft. There were no ground service vehicles near the aircraft, and the starboard engine was still running.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting vatveng (Reply 13):
Quoting syncmaster (Reply 12):
Not to mention presumably busing the passengers back to Midway.

Would that be easier than ferrying a 737 to ORD to pick them up and continue on? If it was a full flight it would take a few buses to get everyone back across town.

It's probably much, much cheaper to put people on buses or even in taxicabs. And I'd imagine that a fair number would just get on the el and make their way back to MDW themselves if the buses were going to take more than an hour.


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