syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 20098 times:
stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3266 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 19706 times:
More news here from CBS. Rescue workers at the scene said 12 people had survived and were being flown to a hospital by helicopter. The report said 16 bodies had been recovered so far.
Does anyone know the Reg of the aircraft involved? Or is it too early to say? From the video it looks like one of the -200's from the orange bit on the tail:
PanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 274 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18204 times:
BBC reporting that both pilots and both FAs passed away. Pilots were attempting an emergency landing. RIP
Russia is a big country with lots of flights but the safety record is atrocious compared to other regions of the world. Is there any effective regulation of the industry?
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Numero4 From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12152 times:
R.I.P. to all who died in the crash, and a special thought to the crew who lost their lives trying to land the aircraft and probably saved pax doing it.
A propeller shaft failure in flight would have disastrous results. If that is what happened to this UT Air ATR 72, that would probably mean immediate worldwide grounding of the complete PW100 fleet in the light of this AD. All ATR's All Dash-8 [except Q400], all F50's, all Embrear 120's, Do 328, ATP's etc.
Regards,
PW100
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25 yeelep: As that AD covers 179 suspect prop shafts that may be in current use, I don't see how it could be the basis of the whole PW100 fleet being grounded.
26 PW100: While you are correct on the number, Pratt really has no idea on which airplanes these 179 Propshafts are installed . . . . believe me, it's a mess. Y
27 YVRLTN: I dont want to disrespect the dead in any way, but this was not an "old Russian plane" (though it is not particularly new either) so will there now b
28 agent99nzboi: The ATR is a French built aircraft, not Russian.
29 AirlineCritic: We do not know what happened yet. Statistically, most accidents are due to human errors. There is no reason to speculate yet about technical problems
30 LXa332: AV Herald is saying the first officer survived. The captain and both FAs are dead.
31 RayChuang: Given it took off in cold weather, they'll have to check if the wings were properly de-iced before takeoff. If I remember correctly, an Simmons Airlin
32 stasisLAX: Exactly my thoughts - did it go through proper de-icing procedure given that the weather was snow showers and blowing snow at the time of the inciden
33 AF1624: Obviously with the aircraft being an ATR (known for icing issues in the past), and with the flight taking place in very cold conditions, the odds of i
34 SKAirbus: I am aware of that. But it was operated by a Russian airline in a territory that has a pretty poor record when it comes to accidents.
35 817Dreamliiner: Just read this on flightglobal: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...t-engines-were-functioning-370298/ This part might be of interest though:
36 HAWK21M: Thats one area of Investigation considering the situation.
37 RubberJungle: Excessive rolling can be a symptom of wing icing: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ke-off-crash-investigators-320577/
38 Aesma: I'm guessing it was a short turn-around, maybe they assumed it was OK, didn't do the pre-flight walk-around ?
39 SXI899: Based in the schedules, the aircraft had a nightstop after arriving from Surgut at UT119 around 2340L. What with the weather conditions in the hours
40 aeroflop: Its not that the industry is not regulated well enough. It is mostly to do with the fact that there was a huge drought of prefessional pilots being t
41 airbuseric: Icing is 99% sure the cause of this crash, got this info from a source today working for a a/c leasing company. Anti-ice sytems on these older ATR72's
42 toltommy: Care to share your source? Without it, you've got nothing more than speculation. The anti-ice systems could cover 100% of the wing. However, it is be
43 EY460: The aircraft crashed immediately after take off. How can you blame the de-icing system? If the wings were clean before take-off, there was no time fo
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