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ATR-72 Crashed Near Tyumen, Russia  
User currently offlinelh648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 21741 times:

ATR-72 flight Utair 120 from Tymen to Surgut crashed 40 km from Tyumen. 41 onboard. Casualties reported. No other info yet.


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User currently offlinelh648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21785 times:

Contact lost 2 minutes after takeoff. The next departing aircraft reported debris on fire on the ground.

Now media reporting 43 on board.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21633 times:

Here's hoping for survivors...


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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21651 times:

Hopefully the pilots was able to make an emergency landing, but with wreckage on fire that's not very likely. I hope there will be many survivors.

/Lars



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User currently offlinelh648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21582 times:

Reported 9 survivors with serious injures. 11 confirmed dead. RIP.


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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2038 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21242 times:
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More info here: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...ope/01reuters-russia-crash.html?hp

43 aboard, 12 survived (as of 12 AM EDT)


User currently offlinelh648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21034 times:

17 survived, 16 confirmed dead.


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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20851 times:

More news here from CBS. Rescue workers at the scene said 12 people had survived and were being flown to a hospital by helicopter. The report said 16 bodies had been recovered so far.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...crashes-in-siberia/?tag=re1.latest



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User currently offlineBreninTW From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19788 times:

The BBC report.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17580917

From the footage shown there, I'm surprised anyone survived!

I have to wonder if icing wasn't a contributing factor...



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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19759 times:

RIP to all those who passed away and hope that the survivers have a speedy recovery.

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 8):
I have to wonder if icing wasn't a contributing factor...

Would not be surprised if it was, however its not time to speculate on causes just yet.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19664 times:

RIP to those who lost their lives and for a speedy recovery for the survivors



Quoting BreninTW (Reply 8):

Does anyone know the Reg of the aircraft involved? Or is it too early to say? From the video it looks like one of the -200's from the orange bit on the tail:


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User currently offlineBreninTW From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19417 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 10):
Does anyone know the Reg of the aircraft involved

AvHerald reports VP-BYZ


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I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19348 times:

BBC reporting that both pilots and both FAs passed away. Pilots were attempting an emergency landing. RIP  


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User currently offlinebtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 579 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19315 times:
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How very sad... so for this year there have been no major accidents that I am aware of - this is the first?

Rest in peace those who perished.



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User currently offlineflyingAY From Finland, joined Jun 2007, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19285 times:

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 11):
AvHerald reports VP-BYZ

This used to be Finnair's old ATR (OH-KRL).


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19050 times:

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 11):
AvHerald reports VP-BYZ


Thanks

Quoting btblue (Reply 13):
How very sad... so for this year there have been no major accidents that I am aware of - this is the first?

As far as I know, this is the first major accident for the year, its very sad indeed.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10764 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18911 times:

Quoting btblue (Reply 13):

How very sad... so for this year there have been no major accidents that I am aware of - this is the first?

Right, so far 2012 has been the safest year in civil aviation history.


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 18619 times:
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Quoting flyingAY (Reply 14):
This used to be Finnair's old ATR (OH-KRL).

Oh dear... I've flown in that plane TMP-HEL route while it was in KarAir's fleet ...

R.I.P. to all who perished in this terrible accident!



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User currently offlineHELFAN From Finland, joined Aug 2011, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 18377 times:

Quoting flyingAY (Reply 14):
This used to be Finnair's old ATR (OH-KRL).

Was it also one of Aero's planes? Then I must have flown with it too  Wow!


User currently offlineTreg From Estonia, joined Oct 2001, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 17648 times:

Quoting HELFAN (Reply 18):
Was it also one of Aero's planes? Then I must have flown with it too Wow!

Yes. ES-KRL.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15690 times:

Very sad and RIP to all those who perished.

However, it raises the question about air safety in Russia. In the last year alone there have been three fatal accidents involving Russian aircraft:

- 2 April : UTAir ATR 72 - Tyumen
- 7 September: Yak 42 - Yaroslavl
- 20 June: RusAir TU134 - Petrozavodsk

Russia is a big country with lots of flights but the safety record is atrocious compared to other regions of the world. Is there any effective regulation of the industry?



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14362 times:

Reuters is reporting 31 dead.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...russia-crash-idUSBRE83102N20120402



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User currently offlineCyanide72 From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13914 times:

It's always tragic to hear whenever an aircraft goes down.

RIP to all those who perished and wishing a speedy recovery to the wounded.


User currently offlineNumero4 From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13296 times:

R.I.P. to all who died in the crash, and a special thought to the crew who lost their lives trying to land the aircraft and probably saved pax doing it.


CYQB
User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2506 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11654 times:

Tragic crash. I just hope that is not related to this very recent AD:

http://wwwapps3.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur...showPdf=False&ovid=CF_CF-2012-12_0

A propeller shaft failure in flight would have disastrous results. If that is what happened to this UT Air ATR 72, that would probably mean immediate worldwide grounding of the complete PW100 fleet in the light of this AD. All ATR's All Dash-8 [except Q400], all F50's, all Embrear 120's, Do 328, ATP's etc.

Regards,
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25 yeelep : As that AD covers 179 suspect prop shafts that may be in current use, I don't see how it could be the basis of the whole PW100 fleet being grounded.
26 PW100 : While you are correct on the number, Pratt really has no idea on which airplanes these 179 Propshafts are installed . . . . believe me, it's a mess. Y
27 YVRLTN : I dont want to disrespect the dead in any way, but this was not an "old Russian plane" (though it is not particularly new either) so will there now b
28 agent99nzboi : The ATR is a French built aircraft, not Russian.
29 AirlineCritic : We do not know what happened yet. Statistically, most accidents are due to human errors. There is no reason to speculate yet about technical problems
30 LXa332 : AV Herald is saying the first officer survived. The captain and both FAs are dead.
31 RayChuang : Given it took off in cold weather, they'll have to check if the wings were properly de-iced before takeoff. If I remember correctly, an Simmons Airlin
32 stasisLAX : Exactly my thoughts - did it go through proper de-icing procedure given that the weather was snow showers and blowing snow at the time of the inciden
33 AF1624 : Obviously with the aircraft being an ATR (known for icing issues in the past), and with the flight taking place in very cold conditions, the odds of i
34 SKAirbus : I am aware of that. But it was operated by a Russian airline in a territory that has a pretty poor record when it comes to accidents.
35 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Just read this on flightglobal: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...t-engines-were-functioning-370298/ This part might be of interest though:
36 HAWK21M : Thats one area of Investigation considering the situation.
37 Post contains links RubberJungle : Excessive rolling can be a symptom of wing icing: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ke-off-crash-investigators-320577/
38 Aesma : I'm guessing it was a short turn-around, maybe they assumed it was OK, didn't do the pre-flight walk-around ?
39 SXI899 : Based in the schedules, the aircraft had a nightstop after arriving from Surgut at UT119 around 2340L. What with the weather conditions in the hours
40 aeroflop : Its not that the industry is not regulated well enough. It is mostly to do with the fact that there was a huge drought of prefessional pilots being t
41 airbuseric : Icing is 99% sure the cause of this crash, got this info from a source today working for a a/c leasing company. Anti-ice sytems on these older ATR72's
42 toltommy : Care to share your source? Without it, you've got nothing more than speculation. The anti-ice systems could cover 100% of the wing. However, it is be
43 EY460 : The aircraft crashed immediately after take off. How can you blame the de-icing system? If the wings were clean before take-off, there was no time fo
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