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Pm United Using 320s Our Of EWR  
User currently offlinerichiemo From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 220 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

I just noticed that UA Flight 501, EWR to MIA tonight is an A319. So post-merger United is already moving 319/320 to EWR? Didn't think it would be that quick. Does this mean they have based 319s/320s here or is this a routing issue similar to US Airways, where they route legacy Amer West metal thru Philly but they aren't based there? Will be nice seeing the 320 family dressed in the new livery around EWR.

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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

I'm flying UA 501 EWR-MIA on 4/22 with a PMUA 757. The cross fleeting is starting this month officially.

Quoting richiemo (Thread starter):

throughout the spring and summer, looks like PMUA 320s and 319s will be on:

EWR-MIA/MCO/BOS/LAS/DFW/ORD/DEN/TPA/PHX/PDX/SEA/CLE

And similarly PMUA 757s on:

EWR-LAX/SFO/MCO/MIA/ORD/DEN/BOS/SEA/IAH

I might be missing a few. Keep in mind that IAH will see quite a few more 319/320 variations than EWR. Even CLE-SEA/MCO/TPA/LAX will see PMUA 757s



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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

Just wait till September...

NS


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

They are in Houston as well, started on Sunday. Not sure how many there will be on a daily basis but I've seen them going to TPA, DCA, PHL, for starters, also IIRC BOS which some days of the week will be a PM UA B752.


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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4706 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 3):
They are in Houston as well, started on Sunday. Not sure how many there will be on a daily basis but I've seen them going to TPA, DCA, PHL, for starters, also IIRC BOS which some days of the week will be a PM UA B752.

Its more widespread than that, LGA on some days gets 2 or 3 752s from IAH. I'm scheduled on UA230 LGA-IAH on a 752 on 4/16. So far they have all still been operating off of the 2-3 gates on C north...I don't know how though, those ramp guys must be busy because Sunday was a big expansion of PMUA flying at IAH.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 4):
Its more widespread than that, LGA on some days gets 2 or 3 752s from IAH



Oh I know it's more cities, just didn't have the entire list.

They will need to start using more than those Terminal C gates on the northwest side that is for sure, any rumors if they'll mingle over to Terminal E or other C gates?



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User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 1):
throughout the spring and summer, looks like PMUA 320s and 319s will be on:

EWR-MIA/MCO/BOS/LAS/DFW/ORD/DEN/TPA/PHX/PDX/SEA/CLE

Also they will fly EWR-IAH

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 4):
So far they have all still been operating off of the 2-3 gates on C north...I don't know how though, those ramp guys must be busy because Sunday was a big expansion of PMUA flying at IAH.

Yes only three gates out of C north. By summer they will have to use other gates as there are many more airbuses that will be added to the schedule


User currently offlinethorntot From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Sub-Co 737s and 757s are showing up in IAD as well....destinations include PDX, SEA, TPA, MCO, MAN, CDG, PHX, DEN to name just a few. Approaching 20 former-Continental metal flights per day into IAD.


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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 2):

What will happen in September?



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User currently offlineuaord2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
What will happen in September?

rumor is that iah-nrt will be operated with a 744 starting in Sep.


User currently offlinejoeman From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 743 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3121 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 1):
Even CLE-SEA/MCO/TPA/LAX will see PMUA 757s

Shocking...seems PMUA be should be pulling out of non-competitive P2P CLE markets and adding more capacity to oversaturated ones out of EWR, ORD, IAD and so on instead....


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

Quoting uaord2000 (Reply 9):
rumor is that iah-nrt will be operated with a 744 starting in Sep.

WHAAAA!!!!?
That would be great, how would it be routed through IAH though? We had a lengthy conversation on here about that before as this rumor surfaced a few months ago.



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 1):
PMUA 320s and 319s will be on:

EWR-MIA/MCO/BOS/LAS/DFW/ORD/DEN/TPA/PHX/PDX/SEA/CLE

Also EWR-LAX



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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Any chance of PMUA metal in FLL anytime soon?

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting uaord2000 (Reply 9):
rumor is that iah-nrt will be operated with a 744 starting in Sep.

And park it where, Terminal D? Otherwise it will make more of a mess at Terminal E than already exists around 1045 AM.



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2506 times:
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I used one on ORD-EWR. It was painful, but I sat next to the Situation and he's a talker, so...

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4528 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 15):
used one on ORD-EWR. It was painful, but I sat next to the Situation and he's a talker, so...

What does that mean ?



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2640 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 14):
Quoting uaord2000 (Reply 9):
rumor is that iah-nrt will be operated with a 744 starting in Sep.

And park it where, Terminal D? Otherwise it will make more of a mess at Terminal E than already exists around 1045 AM.

If that's the only 744 into IAH, then it would have to be retimed and blow connections at NRT or have a 20+ hour layover in IAH. Maybe that's OK if IAH is going to do maintenance.

Adding other 744 services at IAH wouldn't make much sense. Domestic flights just burn up aircraft time. The IAH-NRT flight is too early to turn it from a Europe-IAH flight, but it could be teamed up with a IAH-South America trip, taking 3 aircraft - not likely IMHO.


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
What will happen in September?

We'll go from the mild crossfleeting increases to basically full fleet integration. An increase of nearly 80%.

NS


User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 14):
And park it where, Terminal D? Otherwise it will make more of a mess at Terminal E than already exists around 1045 AM.

I heard from an employee that C-16 has markings for a 747 on the ground. However, there is not great way to make it work at terminal E.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1822 times:

Well, until a decent solution to parking a 744 at E they can park at D for international arrivals and depart from C16 if need be - when/if UA decides to use the 744 at IAH. Now back in the late 80s and early 90s CO 747s could use North Concourse C around C22 etc - but I think they reconfigured those gates. In fact majority of the domestic widebody ops for CO back in the day were from C North. HAS is also converting another D gate to widebody use to reclaim the space lost by the A380.


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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2412 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

I don't think there would be any problem having an inbound international 747 arrive at D and tow it over to C-16 (or wherever) for its departure. D obviously has space for 747s and the arriving int'l pax experience at D is pretty much the same as E, since they share the FIS.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8274 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

I saw CLE-LGA with an A319 this summer as well.


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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2640 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Looking at Google Earth, it appears to me that if E 21 and 22 were shifted to be more straight in, then E21 could be utilized for a 748 with the aircraft's nose pointing toward the tail of the aircraft on E22 (parallel to the 772 alignment on E19) With the 748 being 250 feet long and a wingspan of 225, I think that would fit within the white lines that mark the service roadway. The question would be if the Y Jetway would reach door 2 without modification.

It looks like the same general features are also at Gates E 5-9.

Additionally, if you were to use two gates C 17 & 18, a 748 could fit with the jetway from each gate serving doors 1 and 2. However, I don't think that hold room has enough space for a jumbo as it shares space with a couple other gates at the end of that concourse.

[Edited 2012-04-08 10:43:28]

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Quoting joeman (Reply 10):
Shocking...seems PMUA be should be pulling out of non-competitive P2P CLE markets and adding more capacity to oversaturated ones out of EWR, ORD, IAD and so on instead....

Perhaps the CLE routings actually justify the 757? LAX-CLE, CLE-MCO and CLE-SFO seem to be getting filled up nicely. Enjoy it while it lasts!



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25 STT757 : Big changes for California-Hawaii, lot's of 757-300s; LAX-HNL 1 737-800, 1 757-200, 5 757-300s LAX-OGG 1 757-200, 3 757-300 LAX-KOA 1 757-200, 1 757-3
26 TOMMY767 : Thanks for this. Glad SFO-HNL doesn't lose it's 764 or 777s.
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