Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights  
User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12319 times:

Just checking to fly to Beirut on Monday and results are now coming up as British Airways flights on the route
BA8050 Departing Heathrow 1240 and
BA8058 Departing Heathrow 1600 , both operated by BMI A321s
Well, that happened a lot quicker than I expected!


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
61 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5085 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12179 times:

Will BMI now be integrated into OneWorld?


Work Hard But Play Harder
User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7530 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12157 times:

Quoting JAL (Reply 1):
Will BMI now be integrated into OneWorld?

IAG will merge BD into BA. So it will become a oneworld airline automatically. Be interesting to see if the Star Alliance titles and logo will be quickly painted out once the deal is finalised, probably on 20 April.


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2500 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12120 times:

Quoting raffik (Thread starter):
Just checking to fly to Beirut on Monday and results are now coming up as British Airways flights on the route
BA8050 Departing Heathrow 1240 and
BA8058 Departing Heathrow 1600 , both operated by BMI A321s
Well, that happened a lot quicker than I expected!

Where did you see that? I checked on ba.com and I could not find anything.



Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12061 times:

It's been loaded onto Expedia and Opodo


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineRatypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11892 times:

Dumb question, but when they "merge BD into BA" - will they retain the BD brand identity, flight numbers etc (so that BD continues to operate as a 'separate' airline - albeit with BA flight numbers also), or are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand? Confused, this has happened pretty fast!

User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11874 times:

From the crew that I've spoken to, BMI will be fully absorbed and won't operate as a separate entity.
It will BA branded 100%. Just on a side note, BA have loaded in ridiculously cheap Beirut flights-
£350 return for a £490 flight. I just phoned Expedia up and booked myself a return for May.
Get in!



Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11864 times:

Quoting Ratypus (Reply 5):
are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand?

I believe that everyone is assuming that, fairly quickly, BMI will disappear completely. Staff and assets all becoming part of BA. I don't think the BMI brand will last any longer than is absolutely neccessary.

Does anyone know if a date has been given at which BMI Gold Star alliance cards will stop working for lounge access etc.?



Flown in: A30B,A306,A310,A319,A320,A321,A332,A333,A343,A346,A388,BA11,BU31,B190, B461,B462,(..51 types..),VC10,WESX
User currently offlineRatypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11769 times:

Thanks - that's happened quickly; very little about it in the mainstream press (unless I have missed it all!). Just got to hope that BA maintain the network - BD fill some very interesting gaps in service from the UK and it would be shame if the LHR slots were all re-purposed to add frequency on existing BA North America routes....

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7530 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11558 times:

When BA bought Dan Air for £1 back ion 7 November 1992 every aircraft was quickly painted - almost within days - with 'British Airways' titles. Those aircraft that remained in BA service for the medium term were thern repainted over the following six or seven months in the BA Landor livery then current. Those that were not retained were never painted in BA livery. So, for example, a couple of 733s (G-BOWR and G-SCUH) were painted with 'British Airways' titles in the November but left the BA fleet in April and June 1993 while still painted in Dan Air colours:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gary Watt
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Klaus Brandmaier



How much history will be a guide to the future we will have to wait and see. But whatever I cannot see this one flying in its current livery for very long:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Ole Simon



Of course one advantage BA will have in the coming weeks is a paint shop at LHR and another (ex-BD) one at EMA.


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11470 times:

Codesharing on 9 routes confirmed by airlineroute.net:

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/187196121322504193

"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"


User currently offlineaidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11376 times:

Quoting Ratypus (Reply 5):
Dumb question, but when they "merge BD into BA" - will they retain the BD brand identity, flight numbers etc (so that BD continues to operate as a 'separate' airline - albeit with BA flight numbers also), or are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand? Confused, this has happened pretty fast!

Although nothing has been announced / confirmed officially about the processes that will happen now the merger will take place; It is believed that from the end of April all current bmi operated flight's will actually be operated by BA on bmi metal. While the bmi brand is being absorbed into BA, the current bmi schedule and routes will continue to be operated up untill the end of the summer 2012 schedule. Again this is just rumours from inside and around, not actually been announced yet...


User currently offlinesantos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11247 times:

I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

On BA website is showing it being operated by an A320, BD booking shows A321, so hopefully it will be operated by an A321 as they have PVT/AVOD.

[Edited 2012-04-03 11:23:39]

User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2500 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11154 times:

Flights are now loaded in BA.com.


Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1299 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11099 times:

Quoting santos (Reply 12):
I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

Same for my flight to NCE in May. Hmm now what frequent flyer number to put in... Im currently earning VS flying club miles on a BA flight! Cant see that lasting too long either.

[Edited 2012-04-03 11:24:49]


A300,A319,A320,A321,A333,A343,A346,A388,732,733,734,735,738,741,742,744,752,763,772,77W,788,Q400,DC10,E145,E170,E175,E19
User currently offlineGCPET From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2012, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11073 times:

Bye Bye BMI  

GCPET



If it's not Boeing, I'm not going!
User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 10):
"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"

On the BA Intranet it has just appeared.
It also includes Freetown and Khartoum.
It states BMI summer schedule will operate as planned.

Following agreement with the pilots, BMI will be absorbed and run as a common fleet.
The BMI pilots will be converted to BA SOPs on courses this autumn.


User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10905 times:

Does that mean that BA will operate a sub fleet of A321/A320s for BD's routes or will they sub them with BA's medium haul 767s & 777s?


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineheebeegb From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10905 times:

Ironic some of the routes now on BA codeshare are ex Bmed routes anyway which went from a BA franchise to BD now on a BA codeshare

User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10846 times:

Quoting santos (Reply 12):
I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

BA and BD both host flights using Amadeus, so this has actually been possible for quite a while. Not sure if it was something that needed a formal switchover, or not. For example you can also look at your BD itenary on LOT.com (a great website), LH.com, etc.

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 10):
"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"

I guess this gives an indication that at least some of the mid-haul network is of interest to BA. They did maintain a codeshare on many of these routes when B|MED was purchased by BD.

Quoting raffik (Reply 17):
Does that mean that BA will operate a sub fleet of A321/A320s for BD's routes or will they sub them with BA's medium haul 767s & 777s?

I think they may keep a sub-fleet, I don't think anything has been decided yet. Interestingly those mid-haul Airbuses should be all but identical to BA Airbusses, as they were originally ordered by BA, but delivered to and operated by B|MED for BA.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2500 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10847 times:

Do you think the domestic flights will be included in the code share agreement?


Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlinebarca From Norway, joined Apr 2012, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10778 times:

But what will happen with BMI's route from LHR to SVG and BGO. Will it be axed when IAG takes over from BMI or will it still continue?

Those two cities have a lot of oil activities and like that.


User currently offlineiain2012 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10755 times:

I'm just going to throw this out there and see what answer I get

Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

BA could use the - soon to be refurbished and in dire need of it - 767 fleet for more international flights..


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10592 times:

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 22):

Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

BA could use the - soon to be refurbished and in dire need of it - 767 fleet for more international flights..

The reason BA keep the 767 on euro is because they need the capacity for certain routes. I dont see this need changing anytime soon or probably would have replaced them long ago.

However I do feel that many of the BD routes that BA may retain would be far more suited to the 767 then any of the other longhaul aircraft BA operate so I imagine they could probably do with more longhaul config 767s as they are pretty stretched as it is!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

I was really hoping for some wide body services to Beirut from BA. Not that there is anything wrong with the A321s.
BD recently refurbed their A321/320s with brown leather seats, I am wondering that if BA keeps the BD fleet will they configure them to the blue leather seats as seen on mainline BA aircraft. I suspect the next few months will be very interesting!



Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
25 barca : Still nobody knows what will happen with SVG and BGO when IAG takes over the routes from BMI?
26 sandyb123 : There are only two A330's in BMIs fleet. The A330 isn't compliant with the BA fleet so I wouldn't be surprised if IAG transfer them over to IB or sel
27 aidoair : Don't forget BA already have their 767 aircraft assigned to routes for this summer already, so they wouldn't be replacing any ex-bmi A321 routes unti
28 oneworld77 : When I flew to BGO it was opped by BMIregional. That airline is not currently projected to be part of the sale, however the suggested buyers have not
29 ankaraflyjet : I hope BA reinstates LHR ESB just like BMED did with BA codeshare and then route suspended by BD later on when they bought BMED in late 2008 as BD cou
30 ThomasCook : I am extremely sad to see bmi go to BA. I love flying with them and choose them over BA every time. I know you all say it's what is necessary for bmi
31 iain2012 : What routes will BA gain from bmi ??... ie places they dont currently fly too themselves I know BA are keen to keep flying LHR-BHD - Will BA keep the
32 SSPhoenix : Wait a Minute .... does this mean we finally get to see an A330 in BA colours? ... or is IAG assigning those to Iberia?
33 bennett123 : It is hard to see BA operate a fleet of 2 A330's. IMO, it was probably not workable for BD either.
34 by738 : A330's will not appear in BA colours and will be disposed of as soon as possible Id be surprised if BA operated DUB, as they already have a satisfacto
35 bevisisback : Are there plans to move BD flights to T5? I can't see BA being happy to split ops over three terminals.
36 liverpoola380 : It is going to be very interesting to see how they split there ops. Is there room in T5 / 3 to accomodate BD? Will BA no longer be using Service air /
37 raffik : I suspect that they will keep BEY as this was one of BD's higher yielding destinations but I wonder if the two add on destinations served from BEY wi
38 spud757 : BD operate out of BHD not BFS. If BA keep BHD what will happen to the code share with EI out of BFS? Also what will happen to the BD service to DUB?
39 abrown532 : When BA start operating the BHD route I can expect to see the EI BFS agreement being dropped as it will simply not be needed. However, one aspect I am
40 richcandy : At the very start when it was announced that IAG were trying to buy BMI they said that they would keep the service from LHR to BHD. Not sure what wil
41 Post contains images zkojq : With regards to the painting of BMI A32Xs in BA colours, would they conciser painting the BMI aircraft into the Olympics dove livery rather than doing
42 SKAirbus : I think there will be a surplus of Airbus aircraft as part of the sale so it wouldn't surprise me if they shove a load of them over to Gatwick to repl
43 Post contains images VV701 : One reason for the operation of the 763 on many European routes is the demand for the large 763 freight hold. So dropping these 763 services seems un
44 gulfstream650 : Where does BMI fly where BA doesn't?
45 bevisisback : Think theyve got a bigger presence in west africa & central asia, plus (I think) they serve a few ME destinations that BA dont. I would be more s
46 anshuk : What about destinations such as RUH where BA and BD both fly? Have BA flight numbers been loaded onto the BD flights and is BA planning on continuing
47 AIR MALTA : I think Amman will stop as it has been stipulated that BA should terminate its RJ code sharing if it is to operate to Amman. I think BA will keep the
48 gulfstream650 : New code shares: • Yerevan (Armenia) • Baku (Azerbaijan) • Addis Ababa (Ethiopia) • Tbilisi (Georgia) • Almaty (Kazakhstan) • Freetown (S
49 BrianDromey : I think they use the 767s more for the capacity they offer, rather than that they are short of Airbusses. Im not sure that the addition of BD will do
50 spud757 : Does BE have a lounge at BHD. Don't remeber seeing one. If so I would guess they'd be keen to take the BD lounge since they're the biggest airline at
51 Speedbird2155 : BA operates to Jeddah BA133 operated by 767.
52 VV701 : This will not happen, at least any time soon. Willie Walsh has already put such a take-over off limits. He quoted the very large EI pension scheme de
53 oneworld77 : Palma Served by BA from LCY. I have to say guys a lot of wild and inaccurate speculation on here. Why should EI remove itself from BFS when BA takes
54 Post contains links bananaboy : Saw a tweet saying Asiana are reporting that bmi will leave Star Alliance very soon. @winglets747: Asiana says (in Korean) that bmi will leave Star Al
55 raffik : Looks like everyone else other than BMI know what is happening. There are people on the bmi Facebook page trying to find out what is happening with th
56 GCPET : Unlikely, as British Airways use the 767 on the European Routes mostly for cargo and it's worth a lot to them. Last year, around June, I went on the
57 GCT64 : This has been covered a lot of times, and, as far as I am aware, the BMI A330s are leased (so can't be sold) and are believed to be leased for, relat
58 Post contains images AA777 : I know it may be sad for some people who work there and who have some attachment to BD. But I found on several LHR-BEY trips that their service and t
59 GCPET : Ah okay then, swear i'd read further up that they were fully owned by BMI. GCPET
60 VV701 : I think both are owned by ILFC (International Lease Finance Corporation).
61 raffik : That is disappointing. I always found their crew to be quite cheerful and engaging when I've used them to Beirut. Air France crew are good but I swea
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
MX BFL-GDL Tickets Now On Sale; Flights Start 3/30 posted Sat Feb 3 2007 17:59:18 by FATFlyer
BA To Upgrade Capacity On Pakistan Flights posted Fri Dec 23 2005 13:40:19 by Concorde001
BA Flight Numbers posted Fri Mar 4 2005 05:01:58 by BristolFlyer
Odd Flight Numbers On JL Flights posted Wed May 4 2005 08:47:44 by Ktachiya
BMI Vs BA On Domestic Flights posted Thu Feb 24 2005 23:09:50 by Gkirk
London 2012 Logos Now On BA Aircraft posted Thu Feb 16 2012 06:24:01 by VV701
BA Flight Crew Taken Ill On LHR-GLA Flight posted Sun Jan 8 2012 15:42:17 by ScottishDavie
9-11 Flight Numbers On Other Airlines? posted Sat Sep 11 2010 20:36:13 by rj777
How Many Flight Attendants Work On BA LCY-JFK? posted Tue Sep 29 2009 11:38:11 by FilLPA
BMI In Hot Water Over Maps On Israeli Flights posted Thu Apr 30 2009 07:53:03 by Semsem
BMI Vs BA On Domestic Flights posted Thu Feb 24 2005 23:09:50 by Gkirk
London 2012 Logos Now On BA Aircraft posted Thu Feb 16 2012 06:24:01 by VV701
BA Flight Crew Taken Ill On LHR-GLA Flight posted Sun Jan 8 2012 15:42:17 by ScottishDavie
9-11 Flight Numbers On Other Airlines? posted Sat Sep 11 2010 20:36:13 by rj777
How Many Flight Attendants Work On BA LCY-JFK? posted Tue Sep 29 2009 11:38:11 by FilLPA